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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is acting exactly like someone who paid the refs to fix a game but ended up losing anyway.
It's just a matter of time before he starts attacking the criminals who promised him they had this elected rigged for him to win
budkin
(6,703 posts)Someone convinced him there was no chance he would lose. Probably because its the only answer he would accept.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)ShazzieB
(16,392 posts)It never made any sense that the election was as close as it was.
Tribetime
(4,694 posts)Ohio was along with Georgia and Iowa the 3 tossups....Georgia polling was correct but Iowa and Ohio 8% off. I can't believe Biden didn't do any better than Hillary here. Mainly because people had 4 years of his hate of everyone who didn't kiss his ass. Obama/Biden won Ohio twice.
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)It doesn't make sense that the same pollsters with the same methodology were on the money in some states and then so far off in other states. If there were "shy" Trump voters who don't like to admit to pollsters that they support him, it seems that that would be more likely in places like Massachusetts, where Trump is very disliked. But, somehow the pollsters measure his support accurately there, but they can't do it in Iowa?
If voting machines are hacked, it would be on a state by state basis and the only evidence would be that some states' results would differ from the polling. Also, I'd really like to see a breakdown of which zip codes had postal sorting machines removed from them, because there's no way that that was done randomly. That information should be available once Biden's people are in charge.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Doodley
(9,088 posts)smart. I just robbed you, but I'm not going to say it, I'm going to say you robbed me and you are the worst, most dishonest thief ever. That is his MO.
ShazzieB
(16,392 posts)It never made any sense that the election was as close as it was.
zorbasd
(73 posts)FL, NC, SC, and IA...the final numbers in these states seemed to be way off in comparison to the polls.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... which didn't happen.
It's easier to vote add than to flip or subtract, yes ... there's something wrong with Trump getting that many votes in the red counties.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)wnylib
(21,449 posts)his ridiculous claim at 2:00 am on election night that he won. And with every claim since then that the election was stolen.
Just like in 2016 when he knew the fix was in with Russian help.
unblock
(52,216 posts)But of course, he simply didn't cheat enough to overcome how unpopular he was.
Cha
(297,200 posts)What happened, dejoy?
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)That wasn't smooth at all. Blatantly dismantling equipment and taking away mailboxes woke up a lot more people than just cancelling overtime. Dems became alarmed enough to swear hell or high water we were voting but even people who weren't sure got mad and said that's not right. It was dirty and underhanded and not sneaky enough, especially since it inconvenienced a lot of people in the middle of a pandemic. And another way to piss off even more vets and military.
Cha
(297,200 posts)All comes back to me.. the meds arriving late & everything else.. as you say it was So Obvious.
That was genius of them the let everyone know what they were doing.
And, Social Media-Twitter was Relentlessly Powerful getting out the Informative UPdates!
Blue Owl
(50,360 posts)On second thought -- keep flappin' that rectum-mouth Donny!
imanamerican63
(13,787 posts)There is no one who he wont blame!
agingdem
(7,849 posts)Trump did everything he could to corrupt the election process..he assumed the "fix" was in...what he didn't anticipate was the early voting numbers, the absentee ballots, the pandemic taking center stage, and Trump fatigue...
ShazzieB
(16,392 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)CrispyQ
(36,463 posts)Remember that story of someone in a car driving my horrendously long lines for voting & they stopped & asked someone in line, "How long have you been waiting to vote?" and someone else shouted out, "Four years!"
Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)As he's already blaming the FBI and DOJ, the next ones should be really good!
ShazzieB
(16,392 posts)the results are announced. I wonder if he'll finally recognize then that Biden really IS the president elect. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)my worst fears so far haven't happened.
Now I just got 55 more days of hoping for no nuclear war. (That worry started 4 years ago).
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)He wasn't.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Sooner or later he's going to dig his own grave, and probably a number of others.
Wounded Bear
(58,651 posts)dflprincess
(28,075 posts)on election night 2012.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)But, the number of voters too turned off by him were so high that it overwhelmed the scheme.
This "dry run" will be perfected the next time around and be harder to counter. We must start right now working on election reform that will make vote casting and vote counting transparent and fraud proof.
bucolic_frolic
(43,158 posts)I guess it was COVID motivated.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... other than the overt, known strategies and structural advantages (like voter id), what do you think he did to rig the election?
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)The king of projection has been telegraphing his intentions since October 2019.
Which company does he want states to purchase election machines from, if not Dominion? 🤔
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... that anyone buy voting machines from anyone. When did he make such a recommendation?
In any case, the hand recount in GA proved the integrity of the voting machines.
So I'm still wondering in what way or how this election was supposed to be "rigged".
bucolic_frolic
(43,158 posts)He's none too happy with Kemp today. Who's next?
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Why does he act so shocked? Is he really so delusional as to think he won? Or was he expecting a fix in his favor?
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)Before the election, Old Lardass was acting like he and RepubliCON senators had already won........
Guess they badly determined the voter turnout..........
czarjak
(11,274 posts)wnylib
(21,449 posts)to his base and made no effort to expand it. He expected to win anyway by fixing the election. Why try to woo others if you're sure of the outcome?
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)Is that I won't be around long enough to see trump's reflection in history books
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)And we did
TomDaisy
(1,870 posts)And he thought his order to state GOP parties was very clear --- "I win. Whatever you need to do, toss ballots, rig machines, etc. I don't care how you do it. I'm too lazy to care about those trifling details. Just steamroll me to a second term. But when I win I will cover your asses and you will never be held accountable for criminal actions. Look what I did for Stone, Manafort, Flynn."
Of course this was conveyed using the same ambiguous language he used with Comey about letting Flynn get off.
Mob-style.
He's probably kicking himself now thinking he should have spelled it out more clearly to them, because it seems like they did not get the message, from his point of view. That's part of his anger. Are these morons too stupid to understand what I wanted them to do???
usaf-vet
(6,185 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Keep talking, dump!
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)My guess like everyone else around him, they didn't want to get blamed for bad news, so they weren't honest with him. Who knows, maybe they made up internal polling numbers to keep him happy and to stay on his good side.
When he didn't win, he was completely unprepared for it. So he did the Trump thing and claimed he was a victim.
There is a documentary about Mit Romney's 2012 presidential campaign. As the returns were coming in showing that Obama was going to win, they were all shocked. So shocked that they didn't have a concession speech written. But instead of immediately thinking the election had been rigged, Romney and team conceded and wrote a concession speech. It's an interesting moment. And I think how far we've fallen in the 8 years since.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)He acts now like Biden just outsmarted him.