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PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:00 AM Nov 2020

This is what is going to happen:

Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)

After the 30,000 lies Trump was able to tell without any true outrage, The main stream media is going to sit down and have a collective discussion cum think tank And come up with the conclusion that every statement made by soon to be President Biden needs to be thoroughly checked, vetted, and parsed for complete accuracy. This journalistic mea culpa almost always coincides with the inauguration of the Democratic president. For, after all, it is the Republican presidents who subvert democracy with the Assent of the press and that’s the populace. It is similar to the Republicans suddenly becoming deficit hawks overnight: the wind is now blowing in a different direction.

In addition, revisionism concerning the Trump administration has already begun to be promulgated in newspapers and on the networks. They are singing his praises for certain foreign policy stances and if you think for one moment that revisionism is impossible, it was the right wing which began Holocaust denial, with the most prominent originator of that meme being Pat Buchanan. He used to brag about it when he was a host on Crossfire on CNN back in the day. Soon, there will be wistful cries for the earthiness and plain spokenness of Trump and his family of miscreants.

The one thing the Republicans have learned from this experience is that they and their policies may possess no floor and absolutely anything goes. These are the people who allowed a disease to ravage the entire United States because it suited them politically. The next event will be even worse if they run true to form. We need to start campaigning for 2022 right now. Because they are.

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This is what is going to happen: (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2020 OP
Also, deficits are suddenly going to be the end of the world again. Squinch Nov 2020 #1
Of course, Chainfire Nov 2020 #6
They will be digging out the debt clock that they locked away 4years ago Aerator Nov 2020 #7
all because we ignore 1500 coordinated radio stations - the ONLY unique advantage they have certainot Nov 2020 #28
With Limbaugh dead, House of Roberts Dec 2020 #37
they will hack all over each other to get his time slot and the think tanks will fight to certainot Dec 2020 #38
Yea, let them start talking about deficits, easier for Biden to tax the wealthiest among us KS Toronado Nov 2020 #10
I remember when Gore was running- "It's BAD to pay off the National Debt!" NBachers Nov 2020 #18
Remember what Dick Cheney once said jmowreader Dec 2020 #36
Yep, they will parse his every word and come up with Bettie Nov 2020 #2
Yup!! Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #3
This is why there must be... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #4
AND the DNC must start a preemptive narrative of their own Auggie Nov 2020 #22
YES!!! THIS!!! THIS Right HERE!!! calimary Nov 2020 #24
Yes cilla4progress Nov 2020 #25
Yes. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #5
my head hurts lillypaddle Nov 2020 #8
"I welcome their hatred." Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #9
Once you understand that the big Republican corporate donors are the biggest Dustlawyer Nov 2020 #11
I *really* wish I could say you are wrong. But I can't, it's all true. The fight continues now. nt Pobeka Nov 2020 #12
This is not the future. It's already happening. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #13
No need to start inventing conspiracy theories before they even happen. What good does Nitram Nov 2020 #14
Making it up? PCIntern Nov 2020 #16
I lived in Japan from 1977 to 1998, and moved back to the US in 1998. Oh, was that a rhetorical Nitram Nov 2020 #17
Yes. PCIntern Nov 2020 #19
More than sufficient. But monks don't commit hara kiri. Please do one or the other. To do both Nitram Dec 2020 #33
The Trump presidency I think has fully Roc2020 Nov 2020 #15
Yes, but now that Biden has been elected.... lastlib Nov 2020 #20
The usual DU broad-brush condemnation of the MSM. I've not seen Trump Foreign Policy praised. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #21
do a google on: trump middle east peace AncientOfDays Nov 2020 #27
Who gives a fuck what Trumpers say about it? maxsolomon Nov 2020 #30
I fear that you are right. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #23
The one who started the intransigence over 40 years ago and is still doing it, is this guy-- BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #26
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #35
Exactly right! Unfortunately. kairos12 Nov 2020 #29
SO well said .... live love laugh Nov 2020 #31
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2020 #32
Excellent post JudyM Dec 2020 #34
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. they will hack all over each other to get his time slot and the think tanks will fight to
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 10:53 AM
Dec 2020

control central messaging

couldn't happen at a better time, but has done so much damage. if dems 'attacked' it now, particularly for denying COVID and getting 10000s killed it would fall apart a lot sooner, before it enables more major obstruction

even without limbaugh it will still force biden right

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
18. I remember when Gore was running- "It's BAD to pay off the National Debt!"
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:11 PM
Nov 2020

And there were many sober serious discussions about why it’s more healthy to maintain a National Debt than pay it off.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
2. Yep, they will parse his every word and come up with
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:03 AM
Nov 2020

something that is "wrong" with each and every sentence.

They won't cover...well, anything and the news shows will be flooded with right wing hacks speaking of the evil of Democrats.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
24. YES!!! THIS!!! THIS Right HERE!!!
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:33 PM
Nov 2020

Anything less is tantamount to saying what he did was okay. Just fine. Nothin’ to see here...

But... but... but... THE DEMOCRATS... !!!!!

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. Once you understand that the big Republican corporate donors are the biggest
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:57 AM
Nov 2020

advertisers it starts to make sense.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
13. This is not the future. It's already happening.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

A week or so ago, WaPo had an article about Biden just repeating the Obama presidency because he was choosing experienced people who served in that administration. The criticism of Biden-Harris will be constant, unlike the normalizing of Trump’s every lie and bad policy decision. The mainstream media slants toward conservatives, not liberals.

In reality, the people who own newspapers and magazines are mostly very wealthy shareholders of public corporations. Many of the wealthiest people in this country favor conservatives because they get their taxes reduced. These media outlets do not favor liberals or Democrats. They favor Republicans, as we have seen over the past four years of Trump and their constant refrain that liberals need to try to understand and appreciate the Trump voter. How about they try to understand us? After all, we’re the ones wanting to build the country up, and they’re the ones wanting to burn it to the ground.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
14. No need to start inventing conspiracy theories before they even happen. What good does
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:22 AM
Nov 2020

that do? There are enough real issue to worry about without making some up.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
17. I lived in Japan from 1977 to 1998, and moved back to the US in 1998. Oh, was that a rhetorical
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:51 AM
Nov 2020

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question? During that period of time, a hypothetical future scenario was never considered a true story. Has that changed?

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
19. Yes.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:17 PM
Nov 2020

Tell ya what. If I’m wrong you can lambaste next and I’ll apologize profusely to you and the other members here.

And further, I’ll donate my house to charity, become a monk, and commit Hari kiri on my 70th birthday. Will that be sufficient?

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
33. More than sufficient. But monks don't commit hara kiri. Please do one or the other. To do both
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 12:12 AM
Dec 2020

would be obscene.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
15. The Trump presidency I think has fully
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:25 AM
Nov 2020

awakened democrats who are now wide eyed to political reality. Another election will not be taken for granted. The GOP will be on defense forever after Trump. That's good.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
20. Yes, but now that Biden has been elected....
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 PM
Nov 2020

(...and "all is right with the world" ), there has to be a fear that (too) many Dems will go back to sleep and forget the tRump debacle. Our survival hinges on NOT going back to sleep. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. The usual DU broad-brush condemnation of the MSM. I've not seen Trump Foreign Policy praised.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
Nov 2020

"... revisionism concerning the Trump administration has already begun to be promulgated in newspapers and on the networks. They are singing his praises for certain foreign policy stances..."

Who what where and when?

Which networks? FoxNews? Sinclair?

Which newspapers? WSJ? The Epoch Times?

Can you point me at specific examples that aren't op-eds?

AncientOfDays

(163 posts)
27. do a google on: trump middle east peace
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

I've seen right-wingers on usenet saying tRump should have Nobel.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
30. Who gives a fuck what Trumpers say about it?
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:32 PM
Nov 2020

The Nobel Peace prize isn't given for assassinations or handing countries over to theocratic terrorists.

Oh yeah: Welcome to DU.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
23. I fear that you are right.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:32 PM
Nov 2020

In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. The end of your OP is just as bleak as the central thesis. How sad is it that members must begin campaigning before new members have even been seated? How does anyone get anything done?

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
26. The one who started the intransigence over 40 years ago and is still doing it, is this guy--
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:37 PM
Nov 2020


The Man Who Broke Politics


Story by McKay Coppins | November 2018 Issue _ Politics

Updated on October 17, 2018

(snip)

But few figures in modern history have done more than Gingrich to lay the groundwork for Trump’s rise. During his two decades in Congress, he pioneered a style of partisan combat—replete with name-calling, conspiracy theories, and strategic obstructionism—that poisoned America’s political culture and plunged Washington into permanent dysfunction. Gingrich’s career can perhaps be best understood as a grand exercise in devolution—an effort to strip American politics of the civilizing traits it had developed over time and return it to its most primal essence

(snip

On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before him—he had come to foment revolution.

“One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty,” he told the group. “We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics.” For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to “raise hell,” to stop being so “nice,” to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat “war for power”—and to start acting like it.

(snip)

But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. “His idea,” says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, “was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/


H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
32. Recommended.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:34 PM
Nov 2020

"Don't count the hours, make the hours count." -- Muhammad Ali

I agree 100%. We need to not only remain focused and organized, we need to make use of the next two years to expand our base. That requires a coordinated effort, that we all have a place in. And we'll never have this opportunity again -- for while future two-year periods may look, sound, taste, or feel of 2020 - 2022, they cannot be so. Let's not waste this opportunity.

JudyM

(29,246 posts)
34. Excellent post
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 02:22 AM
Dec 2020

Especially this line, which I wish we could cut through the noise so people could grasp it fully: These are the people who allowed a disease to ravage the entire United States because it suited them politically.

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