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After the 30,000 lies Trump was able to tell without any true outrage, The main stream media is going to sit down and have a collective discussion cum think tank And come up with the conclusion that every statement made by soon to be President Biden needs to be thoroughly checked, vetted, and parsed for complete accuracy. This journalistic mea culpa almost always coincides with the inauguration of the Democratic president. For, after all, it is the Republican presidents who subvert democracy with the Assent of the press and thats the populace. It is similar to the Republicans suddenly becoming deficit hawks overnight: the wind is now blowing in a different direction.
In addition, revisionism concerning the Trump administration has already begun to be promulgated in newspapers and on the networks. They are singing his praises for certain foreign policy stances and if you think for one moment that revisionism is impossible, it was the right wing which began Holocaust denial, with the most prominent originator of that meme being Pat Buchanan. He used to brag about it when he was a host on Crossfire on CNN back in the day. Soon, there will be wistful cries for the earthiness and plain spokenness of Trump and his family of miscreants.
The one thing the Republicans have learned from this experience is that they and their policies may possess no floor and absolutely anything goes. These are the people who allowed a disease to ravage the entire United States because it suited them politically. The next event will be even worse if they run true to form. We need to start campaigning for 2022 right now. Because they are.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Chainfire
(17,538 posts)They have not wanted to talk about deficits for the last four years.
Aerator
(189 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)House of Roberts
(5,169 posts)maybe they won't be so persuasive in the coming years.
certainot
(9,090 posts)control central messaging
couldn't happen at a better time, but has done so much damage. if dems 'attacked' it now, particularly for denying COVID and getting 10000s killed it would fall apart a lot sooner, before it enables more major obstruction
even without limbaugh it will still force biden right
KS Toronado
(17,235 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)And there were many sober serious discussions about why its more healthy to maintain a National Debt than pay it off.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Deficits don't matter if they're caused by tax cuts.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)something that is "wrong" with each and every sentence.
They won't cover...well, anything and the news shows will be flooded with right wing hacks speaking of the evil of Democrats.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,722 posts)Investigations, prosecution, punishment.
It will happen again without.
Auggie
(31,169 posts)calimary
(81,265 posts)Anything less is tantamount to saying what he did was okay. Just fine. Nothin to see here...
But... but... but... THE DEMOCRATS... !!!!!
cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)This
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,733 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)advertisers it starts to make sense.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)A week or so ago, WaPo had an article about Biden just repeating the Obama presidency because he was choosing experienced people who served in that administration. The criticism of Biden-Harris will be constant, unlike the normalizing of Trumps every lie and bad policy decision. The mainstream media slants toward conservatives, not liberals.
In reality, the people who own newspapers and magazines are mostly very wealthy shareholders of public corporations. Many of the wealthiest people in this country favor conservatives because they get their taxes reduced. These media outlets do not favor liberals or Democrats. They favor Republicans, as we have seen over the past four years of Trump and their constant refrain that liberals need to try to understand and appreciate the Trump voter. How about they try to understand us? After all, were the ones wanting to build the country up, and theyre the ones wanting to burn it to the ground.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)that do? There are enough real issue to worry about without making some up.
PCIntern
(25,544 posts)Where have you been since 1976?
Nitram
(22,801 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 1, 2020, 12:12 AM - Edit history (1)
question? During that period of time, a hypothetical future scenario was never considered a true story. Has that changed?
Tell ya what. If Im wrong you can lambaste next and Ill apologize profusely to you and the other members here.
And further, Ill donate my house to charity, become a monk, and commit Hari kiri on my 70th birthday. Will that be sufficient?
Nitram
(22,801 posts)would be obscene.
Roc2020
(1,616 posts)awakened democrats who are now wide eyed to political reality. Another election will not be taken for granted. The GOP will be on defense forever after Trump. That's good.
lastlib
(23,233 posts)(...and "all is right with the world" ), there has to be a fear that (too) many Dems will go back to sleep and forget the tRump debacle. Our survival hinges on NOT going back to sleep. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)"... revisionism concerning the Trump administration has already begun to be promulgated in newspapers and on the networks. They are singing his praises for certain foreign policy stances..."
Who what where and when?
Which networks? FoxNews? Sinclair?
Which newspapers? WSJ? The Epoch Times?
Can you point me at specific examples that aren't op-eds?
AncientOfDays
(163 posts)I've seen right-wingers on usenet saying tRump should have Nobel.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)The Nobel Peace prize isn't given for assassinations or handing countries over to theocratic terrorists.
Oh yeah: Welcome to DU.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. The end of your OP is just as bleak as the central thesis. How sad is it that members must begin campaigning before new members have even been seated? How does anyone get anything done?
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)Story by McKay Coppins | November 2018 Issue _ Politics
Updated on October 17, 2018
(snip)
But few figures in modern history have done more than Gingrich to lay the groundwork for Trumps rise. During his two decades in Congress, he pioneered a style of partisan combatreplete with name-calling, conspiracy theories, and strategic obstructionismthat poisoned Americas political culture and plunged Washington into permanent dysfunction. Gingrichs career can perhaps be best understood as a grand exercise in devolutionan effort to strip American politics of the civilizing traits it had developed over time and return it to its most primal essence
(snip
On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before himhe had come to foment revolution.
One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we dont encourage you to be nasty, he told the group. We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics. For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to raise hell, to stop being so nice, to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat war for powerand to start acting like it.
(snip)
But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. His idea, says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/
kairos12
(12,861 posts)live love laugh
(13,109 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)"Don't count the hours, make the hours count." -- Muhammad Ali
I agree 100%. We need to not only remain focused and organized, we need to make use of the next two years to expand our base. That requires a coordinated effort, that we all have a place in. And we'll never have this opportunity again -- for while future two-year periods may look, sound, taste, or feel of 2020 - 2022, they cannot be so. Let's not waste this opportunity.
JudyM
(29,246 posts)Especially this line, which I wish we could cut through the noise so people could grasp it fully: These are the people who allowed a disease to ravage the entire United States because it suited them politically.