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riversedge

(70,205 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:11 AM Nov 2020

Trump: they're [mailmen] in big trouble right now for selling ballots, getting rid of ballots.."

Seems trump said this yesterday. I have not heard of any being in trouble? Anyone know??
Also--note that now postal women are in trouble. chuckle



Kelly O'Donnell
@KellyO
Attack on postal workers, the president just claimed without evidence that "there are many mailmen, they're in big trouble right now for selling ballots, getting rid of ballots.."


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Trump: they're [mailmen] in big trouble right now for selling ballots, getting rid of ballots.." (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2020 OP
Put up or shut up Trump and his lawyers Botany Nov 2020 #1
First PLEASE watch this. A tRump appointee for Cyber Security on 60 Minutes. usaf-vet Nov 2020 #22
Quick guide to how to steal an election. kiri Nov 2020 #25
At step #3, remember that not all ballots are the same. CrispyQ Nov 2020 #46
excellent! kiri Nov 2020 #48
I love 9A and 10. Yep. That's gotta be it! calimary Dec 2020 #50
Oh shut up you piece of orange shit! CrispyQ Nov 2020 #2
Hey, he's got investigators in Hawaii and you're not going to believe what they are finding! 🤣 TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #45
I don't think any of us Cha Dec 2020 #49
He's fishing for a 25th empowered pardon C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #3
not sure that would work..... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #44
That doesn't make sense PJMcK Nov 2020 #47
Trumpy-Boy swallowed a huge dose of Delusion pills this morning. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #4
Like yeah, Postal workers could tell by addresses.... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #5
Oh, FFS! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #6
Didn't he just blame the F.B.I. and DOJ for ...... Iliyah Nov 2020 #7
Puts postal workers in good company. hay rick Nov 2020 #26
Don't forget, he accused healthcare workers of stealing and selling PPE Walleye Nov 2020 #8
I like things I can count on... nebby70 Nov 2020 #9
Boy he's dopey soothsayer Nov 2020 #10
The only postal employee guilty of screwing with the election justhanginon Nov 2020 #11
👆👆👆👆 Exactly. crickets Nov 2020 #15
January 20th bluestarone Nov 2020 #12
Ballots in streams, rivers, and babbling brooks SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #13
That already unhinged ego of his is teetering. Solly Mack Nov 2020 #14
We can now add mailmen to the list subterranean Nov 2020 #16
Just put voters in the list. LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #21
Just the black ones wryter2000 Nov 2020 #28
Shouldn't Obama be in that list? birdographer Nov 2020 #34
Obama and HRC's emails. 2naSalit Nov 2020 #35
If we had an honest, patriotic Attorney General, he would be bringing charges against Trump Fla Dem Nov 2020 #17
This is what insanity to create chaos at any cost looks like. Haul him out. And don't be careful. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #18
Is he saying "Real men fab ballots?" bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #19
That was his plan all along orchestrated in or before july Mr. Sparkle Nov 2020 #20
I tried to buy some ballots from my mail lady... jcgoldie Nov 2020 #23
I got one for free! Retrograde Nov 2020 #42
Much as I would like to see Betsy deVos ousted first... LisaM Nov 2020 #24
I wish some letter carrier wryter2000 Nov 2020 #27
The mail carriers, the FBI, the Justice Department... Ohioboy Nov 2020 #29
The only BGBD Nov 2020 #30
And he would know this how? Windy City Charlie Nov 2020 #31
The crazy MFer will be gone very soon. OverBurn Nov 2020 #32
Wouldn't it be great to take one of his diapers & duct tape it forever around his mouth?... Illumination Nov 2020 #33
I wish I could Rec an individual post. Yours hits it on button.(or elsewhere!) n/t Paper Roses Nov 2020 #38
As president, Fat Donnie is given wide latitude to make false statements. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #36
Unfortunately his cult is believing all his B.S. tiredtoo Nov 2020 #37
Unfortunately I agree, and that is why the dumpster should be called out for his seditious speech. c-rational Nov 2020 #40
He is like a 5 year old compulsive liar. He can't help himself and his lies are childish Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #39
in reality he's explaining his instructions to DeJoy TomDaisy Nov 2020 #41
Show us proof or it didn't happen, Donny. Initech Nov 2020 #43

Botany

(70,501 posts)
1. Put up or shut up Trump and his lawyers
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:14 AM
Nov 2020

Stay this shit in court and under oath. But they wont because they don't want a perjury charge.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
22. First PLEASE watch this. A tRump appointee for Cyber Security on 60 Minutes.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020


Listen close to what he says about Georgia!

Then what is this all about? https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142638482

Voter Suppression for the Senate seat(s) votes in early January? Which could flip the Senate to Democratic control.

kiri

(794 posts)
25. Quick guide to how to steal an election.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
Nov 2020

Quick guide to how to steal an election.
1. Obtain an official ballot in every swing state. How to do this is left as an exercise for the reader.

2. Carefully analyze the ballot--it's paper, the ink, and seek out any invisible ultraviolet security marks

3. Get a printer to make an identical copy. You may need an engraver. Get the paper right as to "feel" and the ink. A printer in the USA may be reluctant to commit a crime. Try China, Canada, India. Pay attention that the fraud may be easily detected.

4. Run off a million or so copies for each of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, et al.

5. Set up a warehouse full of tables and volunteers with sharpies to vote each ballot. Pay attention that 100% for Trump will arouse suspicions. So at least 25% for Biden.

6. Make sure all the people in the actions are sworn to secrecy or at least have non-disclosure agreements.

7. Now, here is the tricky part. Get these in boxes of 500 each to the counting centers. Paper is heavy--a ream of 500 xerox sheets is only about 5 lbs, but now this is doubled or more with envelopes, etc. And ballots are usually made of thicker paper to withstand counting machines without tearing.

But they must appear in recognized boxes from, say, the postal service. You may have to steal or forge such boxes.

8. Also, official ballots from the polling stations often, but not always, contain an official certification and/or seal. You may have to forge such things. Hijacking the delivery truck to insert the fake ballots will take much planing. In some places the transfer is accompanied by state police. They generally take a dim view of hijacking.

Or rent your own delivery truck and drop off the fake ballots. Someone may ask, "Who are you?" Have a good answer. You may need some official looking stuff.

9. Swear everyone again to secrecy upon pain of....
Gawd knows, if even a whiff of this gets out we are all cooked.
(It's well-known that 7 people can keep a conspiracy secret, but 20 cannot.)

Payoffs are needed, cash on the barrel, and in every state. Should there be a single team that goes from state to state armed with all this knowledge, or should each state train its own fraud-ballot team? This is left to high-level management.

9A. This all is expensive. Printing alone may be $3 million. No checks, no tracing of dark payments, no follow the money. Inasmuch as money and united citizens are no object, budget for scores of briefcases filled with $100 bills.

10. As a diversion, scream loudly and often and non-stop about illegal votes, rigged election, stolen election. File as many lawsuits as you can find lawyers.

11. Relax and wait for the Alito-Barrett axis at the Supreme Court to kick in.

Hence, you see that stealing an election is quite easy once you drill down. There are some nuisance issues to be resolved, but unending-teams-Giuliani are working on them.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
46. At step #3, remember that not all ballots are the same.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:26 PM
Nov 2020

You can't just print millions of the same ballot. Different congressional districts have different candidates. Towns have different issues, counties have different issues. You don't get a ballot with only the presidential candidates on it. I told this to a right winger on FB & he did not or would not understand. His response was that if the ballots are different then that's fraud right there.

kiri

(794 posts)
48. excellent!
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:03 PM
Nov 2020

I will add this to my books "Steal this Election" and "Handbook for Republican Terrorists."

You might, of course, underestimate the dedication, deviousness of election officials who may produce different ballots just to be confusing. Your FB friend may be right.

Cheers, Kiri

calimary

(81,238 posts)
50. I love 9A and 10. Yep. That's gotta be it!
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:09 AM
Dec 2020

Election theft made easy!

Easy as cake.

Piece of pie.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
45. Hey, he's got investigators in Hawaii and you're not going to believe what they are finding! 🤣
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:13 PM
Nov 2020

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
49. I don't think any of us
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:04 AM
Dec 2020

have. This has been torture watching that maniac for 4 Years tear down everything he can that's good about America & the Planet.

And, Lie his Damn head Almost OFF.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
44. not sure that would work.....
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

pence would only be the acting president. The pardon power is reserved for the actual potus. There are some things actings can't do......

Anyone know?

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
47. That doesn't make sense
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:28 PM
Nov 2020

An acting president has the full powers of the office. There's only one president at a time. It's never a partial transfer.

Consider this scenario. The president has to have surgery and turns the office over to the vice president. While the president is under anesthesia, North Korea launches a nuclear attack against South Korea. Are you suggesting that the acting president wouldn't have the authority to launch a counter-attack?

Likewise with the pardon power.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
4. Trumpy-Boy swallowed a huge dose of Delusion pills this morning.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

He's approaching an overdose.

What will Santa be bringing for Trumpy-Boy for Christmas?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
5. Like yeah, Postal workers could tell by addresses....
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:19 AM
Nov 2020

Who were Republican or Democratic voters....

The address on the envelopes were to Election offices. Like they had xray vision or something.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Oh, FFS!
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:19 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Give it a fucking rest already! YOU LOST! It's over!

Start packing and get out of our White House you worthless POS!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Didn't he just blame the F.B.I. and DOJ for ......
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:20 AM
Nov 2020

rigging the "presidential" elections in favor of Biden/Harris, but allowed republicans down ballot to win. . .

To his last breath shithole will be deny everything that is not in his favor.

hay rick

(7,608 posts)
26. Puts postal workers in good company.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
Nov 2020

The monumental stupidity of these tantrums won't even make his followers blink.

nebby70

(471 posts)
9. I like things I can count on...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

... every time I think we've reached the lowest this fool can deliver ...
... there seems to be yet-another basement ...
... you can count on these folks to always deliver crazy, off the wall stuff ...
... I just am in awe of how wild, feverish, bizarre the claims are being pitched ...
... and I look forward to the Biden administration ... boring will be wonderful

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
11. The only postal employee guilty of screwing with the election
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020

is DeJoy and you appointed him you frickin' idiot!

SomedayKindaLove

(529 posts)
13. Ballots in streams, rivers, and babbling brooks
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:49 AM
Nov 2020

Surprised we haven’t heard the illegal immigrant excuse yet. In 2016 Trump said he lost the popular vote because of 3 million illegal immigrants who voted.

The man lost the popular vote in both elections. Accept the trend.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
16. We can now add mailmen to the list
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:20 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)

List of people who conspired to defeat Donald Trump:

Mailmen
“Fraudulent” voters
Voting machine companies
Poll workers
Gov. Brian Kemp
The media
The FBI
The Justice Dept.

Am I missing anyone?

Fla Dem

(23,657 posts)
17. If we had an honest, patriotic Attorney General, he would be bringing charges against Trump
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:24 PM
Nov 2020

for election tampering.

bucolic_frolic

(43,149 posts)
19. Is he saying "Real men fab ballots?"
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
Nov 2020

Manufacture fake ballots and dispose of them and claim they are real. This is the push to derail the election. Head to SCOTUS and claim election is widely tainted and invalid. It never ends. Dangerous delusions should be treated by psychiatrists.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,932 posts)
20. That was his plan all along orchestrated in or before july
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:34 PM
Nov 2020

to delay democratic ballots getting counted in time, as to be ruled ineligible; therefore robbing millions of people their vote and stealing the election

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
42. I got one for free!
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

But only one. And by a weird coincidence it showed up in my mail delivery exactly when the county said it would - and it had my name on it!

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
24. Much as I would like to see Betsy deVos ousted first...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

The postal chief really has to be the first one to go.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
29. The mail carriers, the FBI, the Justice Department...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:10 PM
Nov 2020

The list of people he's blaming for his failure to win is is getting longer.

I just read where the recount in Wisconsin confirmed Biden's win plus gave him a few extra votes. Poor Donnie, he's so deranged.


 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
30. The only
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

Mail carrier i have heard of trying to mess with ballots was a Qanon guy trying to help Trump.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
31. And he would know this how?
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:20 PM
Nov 2020

Could it be this was part of Trump's plans and thought it would help with his re-election? But now he's blaming the very same thing for his loss.

36. As president, Fat Donnie is given wide latitude to make false statements.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

Once he's out of office, however, he's open to legal actions for libel and slander. He's also going to find if Twitter has to correct his tweets too many times they'll close his account, which they wouldn't do while he's in office.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
37. Unfortunately his cult is believing all his B.S.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

They were parading on the street yesterday here. It's going to take a long time to win back our country.

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
39. He is like a 5 year old compulsive liar. He can't help himself and his lies are childish
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:46 PM
Nov 2020

and can't even be taken seriously by anyone above 6 years old.

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