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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump: they're [mailmen] in big trouble right now for selling ballots, getting rid of ballots.."
Seems trump said this yesterday. I have not heard of any being in trouble? Anyone know??
Also--note that now postal women are in trouble. chuckle
Kelly O'Donnell
@KellyO
Attack on postal workers, the president just claimed without evidence that "there are many mailmen, they're in big trouble right now for selling ballots, getting rid of ballots.."
Link to tweet
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Link to tweet
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Botany
(70,501 posts)Stay this shit in court and under oath. But they wont because they don't want a perjury charge.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Listen close to what he says about Georgia!
Then what is this all about? https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142638482
Voter Suppression for the Senate seat(s) votes in early January? Which could flip the Senate to Democratic control.
kiri
(794 posts)Quick guide to how to steal an election.
1. Obtain an official ballot in every swing state. How to do this is left as an exercise for the reader.
2. Carefully analyze the ballot--it's paper, the ink, and seek out any invisible ultraviolet security marks
3. Get a printer to make an identical copy. You may need an engraver. Get the paper right as to "feel" and the ink. A printer in the USA may be reluctant to commit a crime. Try China, Canada, India. Pay attention that the fraud may be easily detected.
4. Run off a million or so copies for each of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, et al.
5. Set up a warehouse full of tables and volunteers with sharpies to vote each ballot. Pay attention that 100% for Trump will arouse suspicions. So at least 25% for Biden.
6. Make sure all the people in the actions are sworn to secrecy or at least have non-disclosure agreements.
7. Now, here is the tricky part. Get these in boxes of 500 each to the counting centers. Paper is heavy--a ream of 500 xerox sheets is only about 5 lbs, but now this is doubled or more with envelopes, etc. And ballots are usually made of thicker paper to withstand counting machines without tearing.
But they must appear in recognized boxes from, say, the postal service. You may have to steal or forge such boxes.
8. Also, official ballots from the polling stations often, but not always, contain an official certification and/or seal. You may have to forge such things. Hijacking the delivery truck to insert the fake ballots will take much planing. In some places the transfer is accompanied by state police. They generally take a dim view of hijacking.
Or rent your own delivery truck and drop off the fake ballots. Someone may ask, "Who are you?" Have a good answer. You may need some official looking stuff.
9. Swear everyone again to secrecy upon pain of....
Gawd knows, if even a whiff of this gets out we are all cooked.
(It's well-known that 7 people can keep a conspiracy secret, but 20 cannot.)
Payoffs are needed, cash on the barrel, and in every state. Should there be a single team that goes from state to state armed with all this knowledge, or should each state train its own fraud-ballot team? This is left to high-level management.
9A. This all is expensive. Printing alone may be $3 million. No checks, no tracing of dark payments, no follow the money. Inasmuch as money and united citizens are no object, budget for scores of briefcases filled with $100 bills.
10. As a diversion, scream loudly and often and non-stop about illegal votes, rigged election, stolen election. File as many lawsuits as you can find lawyers.
11. Relax and wait for the Alito-Barrett axis at the Supreme Court to kick in.
Hence, you see that stealing an election is quite easy once you drill down. There are some nuisance issues to be resolved, but unending-teams-Giuliani are working on them.
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)You can't just print millions of the same ballot. Different congressional districts have different candidates. Towns have different issues, counties have different issues. You don't get a ballot with only the presidential candidates on it. I told this to a right winger on FB & he did not or would not understand. His response was that if the ballots are different then that's fraud right there.
I will add this to my books "Steal this Election" and "Handbook for Republican Terrorists."
You might, of course, underestimate the dedication, deviousness of election officials who may produce different ballots just to be confusing. Your FB friend may be right.
Cheers, Kiri
calimary
(81,238 posts)Election theft made easy!
Easy as cake.
Piece of pie.
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)I have never seen such a deficient human being in my life.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
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Cha
(297,196 posts)have. This has been torture watching that maniac for 4 Years tear down everything he can that's good about America & the Planet.
And, Lie his Damn head Almost OFF.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)This Vinny the Chin act is well-worn gangster panic.
getagrip_already
(14,742 posts)pence would only be the acting president. The pardon power is reserved for the actual potus. There are some things actings can't do......
Anyone know?
PJMcK
(22,035 posts)An acting president has the full powers of the office. There's only one president at a time. It's never a partial transfer.
Consider this scenario. The president has to have surgery and turns the office over to the vice president. While the president is under anesthesia, North Korea launches a nuclear attack against South Korea. Are you suggesting that the acting president wouldn't have the authority to launch a counter-attack?
Likewise with the pardon power.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)He's approaching an overdose.
What will Santa be bringing for Trumpy-Boy for Christmas?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Who were Republican or Democratic voters....
The address on the envelopes were to Election offices. Like they had xray vision or something.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)
Give it a fucking rest already! YOU LOST! It's over!
Start packing and get out of our White House you worthless POS!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)rigging the "presidential" elections in favor of Biden/Harris, but allowed republicans down ballot to win. . .
To his last breath shithole will be deny everything that is not in his favor.
hay rick
(7,608 posts)The monumental stupidity of these tantrums won't even make his followers blink.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)nebby70
(471 posts)... every time I think we've reached the lowest this fool can deliver ...
... there seems to be yet-another basement ...
... you can count on these folks to always deliver crazy, off the wall stuff ...
... I just am in awe of how wild, feverish, bizarre the claims are being pitched ...
... and I look forward to the Biden administration ... boring will be wonderful
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)is DeJoy and you appointed him you frickin' idiot!
crickets
(25,969 posts)bluestarone
(16,926 posts)GOD DAM we need January 20th!!!!!!!!!
SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)Surprised we havent heard the illegal immigrant excuse yet. In 2016 Trump said he lost the popular vote because of 3 million illegal immigrants who voted.
The man lost the popular vote in both elections. Accept the trend.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)subterranean
(3,427 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)
List of people who conspired to defeat Donald Trump:
Mailmen
Fraudulent voters
Voting machine companies
Poll workers
Gov. Brian Kemp
The media
The FBI
The Justice Dept.
Am I missing anyone?
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Look at his list of cities with corrupt voting.
birdographer
(1,325 posts)No real reason, he just blames him for everything.
2naSalit
(86,586 posts)Fla Dem
(23,657 posts)for election tampering.
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,149 posts)Manufacture fake ballots and dispose of them and claim they are real. This is the push to derail the election. Head to SCOTUS and claim election is widely tainted and invalid. It never ends. Dangerous delusions should be treated by psychiatrists.
Mr. Sparkle
(2,932 posts)to delay democratic ballots getting counted in time, as to be ruled ineligible; therefore robbing millions of people their vote and stealing the election
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)She said sorry she only had stamps...
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)But only one. And by a weird coincidence it showed up in my mail delivery exactly when the county said it would - and it had my name on it!
LisaM
(27,808 posts)The postal chief really has to be the first one to go.
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)would barf on his mail.
Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)The list of people he's blaming for his failure to win is is getting longer.
I just read where the recount in Wisconsin confirmed Biden's win plus gave him a few extra votes. Poor Donnie, he's so deranged.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Mail carrier i have heard of trying to mess with ballots was a Qanon guy trying to help Trump.
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)Could it be this was part of Trump's plans and thought it would help with his re-election? But now he's blaming the very same thing for his loss.
OverBurn
(950 posts)50 days
1211 hours
72695 minutes
4361748 seconds
Illumination
(2,458 posts).....
Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)Once he's out of office, however, he's open to legal actions for libel and slander. He's also going to find if Twitter has to correct his tweets too many times they'll close his account, which they wouldn't do while he's in office.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)They were parading on the street yesterday here. It's going to take a long time to win back our country.
c-rational
(2,592 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)and can't even be taken seriously by anyone above 6 years old.
TomDaisy
(1,870 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)Put up or shut up. Oh wait, you're incapable of either.