I had an encounter with 2 anti mask customers

[rownesheck]

at my job today. The company i work for has told us if another customer complains about someone not wearing a mask, we as managers are to offer the non mask person a mask. If they refuse, we have to let it go. They don't want us possibly getting into a violent situation.

So I offer this guy a mask and he looks at me stupidly and says "Nope!" His wife just shakes her head at me as I try to offer her one. I was livid at how they reacted, but I just walked away.

My District Manager comes in about 10 minutes later and asked me how I was doing. I told him I was fed up with these non mask wearing people and told him that he can fire me if he wants, but that I had just texted my store team and told them they are not obligated to treat these idiots nicely. Yes, we have to let them shop, but just scan their groceries quickly and get them out of here. If they ask you where something is, just point in its general direction, etc.

He wasn't very pleased that I had done that, but too bad. I understand they don't want us getting into violent situations but damn i wish they would hire armed security to deal with these idiots. But they won't because businesses are looking out for their bottom line. That's the problem with government leaving it up to businesses to enforce these mandates.

This is in Texas by the way.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I've heard about this sort of thing in Texas, from a friend who lives there.

And the infection rates are climbing catastrophically!

If too many people get sick because of their idiotic responses to mask-wearing, then the stores won't have customers to buy stuff!

So much for their precious bottom line.

It just pisses me off.

I'd say keep doing what you're doing!

[kiri]

25. just cough loudly

My neighbor has a teenage son who works at a Market Basket supermarket.
In similar encounters with antimaskers, he pulls down his mask and coughs in their direction. So far the bad ones have turned and fled.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

27. Good for him! That's a smart move. n/t

[mitch96]

33. works for me also. If I have to deal with anti maskers I just cough loudly behind my mask

wipe my brow and ask if it's hot in here or is it me...HA!! I get mixed reactions but I get my point across.
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[calimary]

35. That is a TERRIFIC idea!

Just one little - um - gesture - an action that speaks WAY louder than words! Or in this case, a nice big open unmasked cough!

Might make 'em think.

[Bayard]

49. I like that idea

I cough all the time anyway in connection to my asthma, especially when its cold out. It can sound pretty terrible, especially if I also have a respiratory infection. Instead of hitting the inhaler before I walk in somewhere, I should just let 'er rip.

I bet I could either clear a store, or be arrested!

[JohnnyRingo]

57. Me too. My cough can sound like death itself.

I did freak one person out who didn't have a mask on. I pulled my down and let it go from the depths without covering my mouth. He moved away quickly enough to be comical.

I regret that I didn't say something like "I should probably wear a mask", or "Wanna borrow my mask?". I'll be ready next time.

[Lars39]

55. Sounds good, but he's probably inhaling their air

before he coughs. He’s putting himself at risk.

[SCantiGOP]

2. Our Governor here in SC

makes impassioned pleas, telling us that the virus has never been more deadly or widespread, and thousands of our friends, family and fellow citizens will die if we don't aggressively follow all of the guidelines and then................someone will ask if he is considering a statewide mask mandate and he turns into his usual trump/tea party robot and says that will not be considered since it would basically destroy American.
He is a dangerous moron, but will be re-elected in two years to continue being a dangerous moron.

[niyad]

38. He could contract the virus and die first.

[SCantiGOP]

40. Funny you say that

I had a professor in Political Science years ago who made the snarky - but true - statement that the only way to bring about progressive change in South Carolina was to have a lot of funerals.

[niyad]

42. Sadly true. I have several friends from there, they say the culture is insane.

[SCantiGOP]

43. It's like the country as a whole

The three major cities are pretty liberal and vote Democratic. The suburban areas are tolerant and slowly becoming more competitive for the Democrats.
But the rural areas are still as racist and backward as you would expect to find in the pre-WW2 South. And because of gerrymandering, that gives us a very Republican legislature and a 6-1 split in our Congressional delegation.

[BComplex]

3. If they care about their bottom line, they need to RESPECT the customers who are trying to do the

right thing, and they need to PROTECT the customers who are doing the right thing. A mask on one person vs. a non-masked person, only has a small percentage of effectiveness as it would if BOTH are wearing masks.

I will no longer shop where masks are not a requirement. Haven't been shopping in those stores since June. Won't start now.

[trc]

32. Oh they are required here in Texas

But their is no enforcement policy put in place that supports businesses telling folks they cannot enter the business unless masked. See it here all the time. Mandate without teeth.

[Freddie]

4. Wear a face shield and a mask

If anyone asks, you’re protecting yourself from the mask-free idiots.

[intrepidity]

5. "No shirt, no shoes, no service" -- why can't you deny service?

Why?

[OnDoutside]

12. I agree, I don't understand this either.

[Bayard]

6. We have a state-wide mask mandate

Thank you, Gov. Beshear! Every establishment that is open is required to post the sign on its door, but let people just trip on in without them. I glare at those people, and make a wide berth around them. I rarely go anywhere.

But I do go off on store personnel that either don't wear a mask, or don't wear it properly. I had to go to Ace Hardware yesterday. There were two guys working. One had his mask down under his nose, the other one just had his across his chin. The response was--I can't breathe in one. The couple of customers there besides me were not wearing masks.

I'm tired of calling corporate headquarters to complain, and either put on hold until I give up, or told they don't want their employees confronting people.

[Ferrets are Cool]

15. Alabama has a state-wide mandate also, but about 10% are ignoring it. And there are no consequences.

The stores just let them pass in and out like they are prefered customers. Makes me so damned angry.

[llmart]

17. I had two similar incidents in a Ace Hardware and now I just won't buy anything from them again.

On one occasion two employees were stocking the shelves and they were both bitching and moaning about mask wearing. The woman was going on and on about how "evil" Governor Whitmer is and she said the word evil at least six times. The old fart white man was just as bad. I so wanted to walk by that woman and say, "Well, I am so surprised that you know so much more than the scientists and yet here you are putting bottles of weed killer on the shelf at a hardware store for minimum wage."

These people are too stupid to know they're stupid.

[Squinch]

51. I hope you called them and told them why you won't be shopping there anymore.

[llmart]

61. I emailed the store owner.

[Squinch]

62. Well done!

[TheBlackAdder]

48. In NJ, we have a statewide mask mandate and I haven't seen anyone without as Five-O gets called.

.

And if you're dumb enough to hang around, your ass is arrested.

As long as it's not Trump's Bedminster Golf Course. For some reason he gets a pass.

.

[roamer65]

7. I received a complement on my full face shield automotive gas mask today.

The store owner said, “You’ve got the right idea”. Turns out the virus took a good swat at his extended family.

I had a good chat with him.

[vapor2]

8. TRYING really hard to keep my mouth shut

since these non compliant a**holes are simply crazy. Saw an older man driving his handicap scooter with his mask below his nose and then he pulled it down below his chin. He was more than 6 ft from me but still too close so I asked him to put his mask on properly. He ranted and raved for at least 10 minutes telling me he didn't need someone to tell him what to do. REALLY? If you refuse to comply with the store's policy AND the state's policy then clearly you need to be told what to do.

[marlakay]

9. Sorry you have to work around unsafe people

So grateful my state OR made all stores have to wear them.

[OriginalGeek]

10. I live in Florida

And I have health issues. When can I start pulling a gun on maskless morons and stand my ground? They are trying to murder me.

[Meowmee]

11. They shouldn't be allowed in the store

Without a mask in the first place.

[birdographer]

13. I don't suppose

this is a business with a PA or any kind of loudspeaker system? I would have been on there so fast, announcing that two people (describe what they are wearing, age bracket) in the store are not wearing the required masks, and so to be aware of them and stay away from them since they could be highly infectious and are unconcerned about the health of other customers. Yeah...it might clear the place out, but it would single those people out and would probably be somewhat affective. And it would feel very, very good.

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. I feel so badly for your situation and those others who are in similar ones...

I just can't get it. If they were naked, you could turn them away, but you have to allow them in if they are endangering your health.
I JUST DON'T FUCKING GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alphafemale]

16. They should have to self checkout

At the very least.

[Mr.Bill]

18. If a bar can afford to hire an off-duty cop in uniform to be a bouncer,

I'd think a supermarket could do the same. In fact, with all the bars being closed in so many places, there must be a lot of bouncers looking for work.

[catrose]

23. And with bars closed in so many places, bouncers are unemployed.

So hire them as mask security in grocery stores, not to be violent, just a more imposing presence than a teenage girl.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. Good for speaking the truth. These assholes are endangering everyone's lives, in every state.

[Pantagruel]

20. See any parallels?

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[NellieStarbuck]

21. I'm so sorry you have to endure this.

Both of my kids work with the public, one in a grocery store and the other in a gym. They occasisonally encounter maskholes, but at least their employers and the state have their backs. They do not wait on people who are unmasked. They ask them to leave and, if they don't, they call the cops.

[Pantagruel]

22. "fun" fact

More people died yesterday of CV-19 in the U.S. than died in Japan and S. Korea over the entire course of the pandemic. GOP / Trump's solutions to the pandemic can only be described as a massive failure.

[wryter2000]

24. You deserve more support than that

They should be told they will only be served if they wear a mask. Lots of companies are doing that.

[Ahpook]

26. They are assholes

I went in Best Buy to get a new TV a few days ago. The clerk thanked me for wearing a mask and said one of those maskless wonders just told him he is going to burn in hell for asking him to wear one. He even handed him a free one to wear while shopping. Nope!

Burn in hell? Where the heck does that come from?

And the poor clerk lost his son to the virus recently.

[70sEraVet]

28. Governments need to handle the mask situation like the seatbelt law.

Nobody liked it, but nobody wanted to pay fines.

[LPBBEAR]

29. Not happening here...

I wouldn't help these assholes at all. If I was at a register and they came up with no mask I would shut down the register, lock it, and walk away. Tell your General Manager to help them. The sooner he catches Covid the better off the employees will be.

[Joinfortmill]

30. I hear you. Stay safe.

[KT2000]

31. Businesses should follow Costco

They do not let anyone in without a mask and if they find someone shopping who has taken their mask off, they are escorted out of the store. They do not back down. They now have hand cleaning stations throughout the store. You could bring that up to your manager.

A business does not have to let people shop inside the store. The ADA only requires that businesses make reasonable accommodation. Curbside delivery and at home delivery solve that problem.

There is no reason why a person should be allowed to possibly infect the workers. But of course the R's are working to relieve businesses of liability if they force people to work under those conditions.

[Tribetime]

34. I think you should be getting Hazard pay

I was in Home Depot yesterday when there was one person without a mask and another person with a mask that took it off the sneeze and cough several times and then put it back on and this was while they were trying to ask an employee questions

[Smackdown2019]

36. I stop shopping

I have stopped helping businesses that allow such ignorance. I have stop going to small pop store, dollar tree stores, certain Walmarts that dont force it. Only place I know that is really enforcing it, is Menards. I have been using Walmart grocery pickup. Kinda nice. But I mostly do online shopping nowadays. Gas stations, forget it! Also, quick point. Use your car keys to push the key pads.... never your fingers.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

37. It's bullshit that the anti-maskers will get violent.

Places that enforce the mask wearing don't have assholes pulling guns on them. Oh, some of the scream loudly and long, but they need to be told to wear a mask or leave, and be forcibly removed if necessary.

[niyad]

41. Have you missed all the stories of people getting stabbed, shot, beaten, ?kILLED???? For

trying to enforce mask mandates? Really????

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

45. Apparently I have.

But when the business itself is firm about the masks, people seem to be complying.

[niyad]

47. Please google those incidents before you continue with your assumption.

[MichMan]

52. Flint Michigan earlier this year

FLINT – Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton has charged three individuals in the killing of a security guard at a Family Dollar store just north of downtown Flint during an argument over a state order for shoppers to wear face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic.

A 23-year-old man, 44-year-old man, and 45-year-old woman, all of Flint, have been charged with first-degree murder and weapons charges in the May 1 shooting death of 43-year-old guard Calvin James Munerlyn.

https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2020/05/3-charged-in-fatal-shooting-of-guard-enforcing-mask-use-at-flint-store.html

[cwydro]

53. Yeah, some stupid woman was told to wear a mask at a Dollar Store. Refused.

Went to get her boyfriend, and they came back and shot the poor security guard dead. I forget where it was.

I want to say Michigan, pretty sure it wasn’t in the south. They were arrested at least.

[MichMan]

60. It was in Flint.

That was the link I posted above

[PurgedVoter]

39. Truth about Texas

The conservative rich old folk in Texas, male or female, do not ever, and I mean ever wash before getting in the pool. Seriously, I have been in a position to know and observe this and you can bet money on it. I have observed this in expensive private pools, country clubs and public pools. Another thing you will never see. One of them getting out to go to relive their bladder. It just doesn't ever happen and if they do go to the bathroom you can again be sure that they did not go to the shower before coming back.
They talk standards and manners but their version of class is the same as Trumps version of class and that goes way back.

The mask issue is just making their commitment to community standards obvious.

[MyMission]

44. I turn my back and essentially hide from customers

If they won't wear a mask, and I make sure they understand that I'm avoiding them. Most do wear one, or put one on when we ask "do you have a mask, or do you need one?" But we do get some who refuse to wear one. We have a barrier at the checkout counter, an extra line of defense, especially for the rare occasions the customer is not wearing a mask.

I'm in NC. Even with a Dem governor, he didn't impose penalties or fines and left it to businesses to manage their own compliance. Many states do the same, but some impose fines which seems to increase compliance. I work downtown, in a tourist and retirement town. Many businesses have signs requiring masks, but many have no sign and those store owners or workers aren't wearing one. Our current sign says "please wear your mask over your nose... it's a mask, not a chinstrap" and many come in chuckling as they read it.

On an unrelated note, I was supposed to be in Texas this weekend for my cousin's 75th birthday, bought tickets last December, cancelled my flight last month when cases started to soar. Been looking forward to it a long time, even though I don't like to fly in general. I was going to wear goggles and medical grade mask for my Flight, if I ended up going, if cases were declining.
Meanwhile, I knew I wasn't getting on a plane any time soon.

[lame54]

46. We FINALLY are allowed to deny them entry...

If they remove it while inside and refuse to put it back on when asked we won't check them out

Morale has improved

[pecosbob]

50. Zero tolerance in my workplace, a corporate-owned convenience store

I had one guy walk in my shop the other day and tell me he was 'exempt'. I told him to feel free to be exempt elsewhere., but that he would not be served without a mask.

NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO MASK NO SERVICE!

[Ms. Toad]

54. You don't "have to let them shop."

Curbside delivery is an appropriate option for people who will not (or cannot) wear a mask. There is no reason to let them inside the store - where they put everyone's life at risk.

[Iwasthere]

56. As they're traveling around the store broadcast their location and warn

... other shoppers. Treat them like they're toxic (which they are). When I encounter someone I, exaggeratingly jump to a very wide birth with wide eyes. Other shoppers tend to join in.

[quakerboy]

58. Last Id heard

There is no requirement for anyone to be allowed in a business who happens to be violating the rules of that business.

Whats the instructions if another customer has a BIG problem with an antimasker, and is perfectly willing to confront that person themselves, to save your employees the trouble?

[rownesheck]

59. I don't think I'd stop them.

I might pretend to try and diffuse the situation just so I could tell my boss I attempted to break it up.