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RAB910

(3,501 posts)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:50 AM Dec 2020

Michigan AG Accuses Republicans Supporting Trump Lawsuits of Violating Their Oaths of Office

Sadly there are some here at DU who fully support what the Republican's attempted illegal coup and claim what they did was legal and ethical. This lawyer knows that is BS


Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, a Democrat, accused Republican lawmakers backing lawsuits attempting to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's election victory in favor of President Donald Trump of violating their oaths of office.

The Supreme Court rejected a lawsuit filed by Texas Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton to overturn the election results in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin on Friday. More than 100 GOP members of the House of Representatives—including four from Michigan—signed an amicus brief in support of the Texas lawsuit. Additionally, 15 Republican state lawmakers in Michigan backed Paxton's brief.

"These are individuals who, in my opinion, have violated their oaths of office. And have sought to, in order to appease a demagogue, they've chosen Donald Trump over democracy and over their constituents," Nessel told the Detroit Free Press in a Saturday interview.

"And of course I certainly don't understand how it's possible that you could think that you won an election when you were on the same ballot that you claim to be fraudulent, in terms of who was elected at the top of the ticket. It's just nonsensical, I don't understand it at all. You're undermining your own elections," she said.


https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-ag-accuses-republicans-supporting-trump-lawsuits-violating-their-oaths-office-1554397?
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Michigan AG Accuses Republicans Supporting Trump Lawsuits of Violating Their Oaths of Office (Original Post) RAB910 Dec 2020 OP
Who here on DU supported this CLOWN SHOW that masquareded as a Lawsuit? ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2020 #1
I am not going to name names, it's more important to counter their misguided beliefs that are RAB910 Dec 2020 #2
I do not believe you could name names, frankly. MineralMan Dec 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #15
Ok Mr. McCarthy, we'll take on it good faith your "list" of names is legitimate. tritsofme Dec 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author RAB910 Dec 2020 #18
You continue to embarrass yourself. tritsofme Dec 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author RAB910 Dec 2020 #20
Wait, did he just get locked out of his own thread? dware Dec 2020 #25
" I am not going to name the murderers, it's more important to counter their misguided beliefs ... marble falls Dec 2020 #24
OP isn't quite telling the truth here, dware Dec 2020 #4
"on DU" - I have seen no user do so ... in the WH - sure karynnj Dec 2020 #3
I've not seen anyone on DU do what you're describing. MineralMan Dec 2020 #5
We're in completely new territory here, so, this is not a simple question. lindysalsagal Dec 2020 #7
It was not sedition as that term is defined in the U S Code onenote Dec 2020 #12
No DUer has claimed that the GOP actions are "legal and ethical" - that's pure B.S. scarletwoman Dec 2020 #8
Patient in no way equals correct RAB910 Dec 2020 #9
That's just your opinion. scarletwoman Dec 2020 #13
My opinion just like your claims are only your opinion RAB910 Dec 2020 #14
But doesn't respond to your patently false accusation. Connect us to one link. marble falls Dec 2020 #23
Why do you continue this crap? marble falls Dec 2020 #21
You're not going to name names because you know you'll be called out for lying if you did onenote Dec 2020 #10
+100. nt dware Dec 2020 #11
Add another +100!! marble falls Dec 2020 #22
Dana Nessel has higher federal office written all over her. stopbush Dec 2020 #17

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
1. Who here on DU supported this CLOWN SHOW that masquareded as a Lawsuit?
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:55 AM
Dec 2020

Still support what what Texas AG did?

I am stumped by that. For what this was , was a coup attempt to undermine Democracy by an Autocrat Dictator-wanna be.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
2. I am not going to name names, it's more important to counter their misguided beliefs that are
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:58 AM
Dec 2020

helping the GOP

Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Response to tritsofme (Reply #16)

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
19. You continue to embarrass yourself.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:49 PM
Dec 2020

My advice is to quit, while you are still only this far behind.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #19)

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
24. " I am not going to name the murderers, it's more important to counter their misguided beliefs ...
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:12 PM
Dec 2020

... that are helping criminals"

dware

(12,369 posts)
4. OP isn't quite telling the truth here,
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:03 PM
Dec 2020

on another thread, many of us, including our resident lawyers, tried numerous times to explain to him/her that the House has no power to refuse to seat them and that just because they signed on to a lawsuit doesn't mean that they committed sedition, treason, etc.

Not one of us expressed support for the lawsuit or republicans, if fact, we ridiculed it.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
7. We're in completely new territory here, so, this is not a simple question.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:11 PM
Dec 2020

There's no previous case of such widespread constitutional mutiny to guide the speaker.

On the one hand, it was sedition. Absolutely. On the other, wouldn't it also invalidate the vote if the speaker had the power to unseat people?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
12. It was not sedition as that term is defined in the U S Code
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:23 PM
Dec 2020

It was outrageous, unethical, odious, and many other things. But as many DUers have explained, it didn’t satisfy the elements of the federal crime of sedition.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
8. No DUer has claimed that the GOP actions are "legal and ethical" - that's pure B.S.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:17 PM
Dec 2020

There have been some DUers who have patiently explained why invoking the 14th Amendment or charging GOPers with sedition or "treason" are legally dubious approaches.

That in no way indicates support for or excusing of GOP actions, it is simply a matter of pointing out facts.

It's too bad you didn't simply post the Newsweek article without the gratuitous slam on DUers.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
13. That's just your opinion.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:31 PM
Dec 2020

If you have an effective legal argument with which to counter these other legal arguments, then make it.

But don't accuse DUers of taking the side of the GOP when they point out what may or may not be legally possible responses.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
14. My opinion just like your claims are only your opinion
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:38 PM
Dec 2020

The article I posted from the Week lays out legal argument

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