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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:36 AM Dec 2020

No, I'm not in the least bit clairvoyant; Trump is utterly predictable in his behavior.

Here is my post from back in June. I can't kick it, so I'll just repost it:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213640143

November 3rd is Election Day. Due to lingering (or perhaps full on) coronavirus effects, many states will see massive vote-by-mail numbers.

Even before midnight on November 3rd, all exit polls and early returns are pointing towards a massive Biden landslide and clear loss for Trump. Joe Biden will take the stage and address his supporters and the nation as the presumptive President-Elect.

However, because there will be far more mail-in ballots than usual, Trump will refuse to concede that night. He will insist he will stay in until "the very last vote is counted."

That will probably take up to two weeks. During those two weeks, Trump will begin raising questions about the fairness of the vote. He'll start throwing out all sorts of baseless claims of voter fraud and conspiracy theories. The more time goes on, the more unhinged he'll become.

During this time, there will be no attempt whatsoever to facilitate any sort of transition period between the administrations, so our entire government will remain in limbo.

Finally, the vote tallies are done and they are certified and ready to be sent to the Electoral College. At this point, Trump will file a lawsuit in desperation hoping to enjoin the Electoral College from finalizing the vote.

I predict he will not have much success at all in the courts. It will rapidly move all the way up to the Supreme Court, who will refuse to entertain the case, effectively confirming the will of the people and various states in electing Biden.

Now, that is as far as I am confident in predicting. What comes after that I'm far less certain of.

Here is the "best" case scenario: Trump, feeling angry, bitter and defeated, chooses to resign sometime in December. Mike Pence is sworn in as the nation's 46th President. Trump will have demanded that he be given a Nixon-like blanket pardon, and Pence, being the spineless lapdog that he is, will oblige. Pence will, however, facilitate a half-assed, hurried transition period, and on January 20, 2021, Joe Biden is sworn in as the nation's 47th President. (The next day, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg will announce a very well-earned retirement.)

As for the "worst" case scenario...well, I'd rather not go there quite yet. All I say is that it would probably look a lot like Ukraine in 2014.


Not 100% spot on, but not too far off.

Not sure if either the "best" or "worst" case scenario will actually play out. And I don't know if a hypothetical Pence pardon would really be "best" but I don't think it would absolve Trump of any of his real headaches.

Got a lump in my throat reading about RBG's well-earned retirement. That part pained me.
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No, I'm not in the least bit clairvoyant; Trump is utterly predictable in his behavior. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2020 OP
Pretty Well Done DarthDem Dec 2020 #1
Yes he is very predictable. I wonder if we can use that to manipulate him. tinrobot Dec 2020 #2
in 2019, the push to weaponized the Post Office started as a prelude to impact 2020 elections beachbumbob Dec 2020 #3
I remember seeing that Trump talks with Bannon frequently. Hugin Dec 2020 #6
they have remained in contact for sure, why a special prosecutor must go at these people, if not beachbumbob Dec 2020 #7
Miller, Bannon and Kushner. Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #11
Only the second block didn't pan out. Hugin Dec 2020 #4
Nicely done malaise Dec 2020 #5
pretty good prediction! unblock Dec 2020 #8
Clearly, Trump reads your posts :-) C_U_L8R Dec 2020 #9
Wow, you got it pretty much spot on... Backseat Driver Dec 2020 #10

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
1. Pretty Well Done
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:39 AM
Dec 2020

Naturally I wish you had been right about the landslide (but it may ultimately not end up mattering) and Justice Ginsburg.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
2. Yes he is very predictable. I wonder if we can use that to manipulate him.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

Because others certainly have.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. in 2019, the push to weaponized the Post Office started as a prelude to impact 2020 elections
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

to tell you the truth, all ideas that come to trump are probably Stephen Miller ideas along with Steve Bannon

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
6. I remember seeing that Trump talks with Bannon frequently.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:44 AM
Dec 2020

He has entertained bringing him back into the administration. Bannon's firing was probably the work of Kelley or maybe even someone in the NSC.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. they have remained in contact for sure, why a special prosecutor must go at these people, if not
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:48 AM
Dec 2020

we will face a much worse test in 2022 and 2024

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
11. Miller, Bannon and Kushner.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:38 PM
Dec 2020

They've got his ears.

Do you think Trump could have ever come up with the idea to sabotage the post office? His brain doesn't work that way.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
4. Only the second block didn't pan out.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:42 AM
Dec 2020

The revelation of the so-called red mirage wasn't realized in June.

The rest is an accurate description of the events to come and were.

unblock

(52,256 posts)
8. pretty good prediction!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:49 AM
Dec 2020

but i agree, he's an easy read. i've often said, i'd love to play poker against him if it weren't for the fact that he'd cheat.

he reacts to virtually anything like the worst spoiled brat 6-year old you've can think of (well, other than the sexual assaults...).

psychologically, he's an open book. nothing subtle about him.

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
10. Wow, you got it pretty much spot on...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:04 PM
Dec 2020

If there's only one "good" come from this anti-POTUS admin, it's the revealing of many silent and/or inherent areas within Constitutional law and/or definitions in which such a monster at the helm can cause chaos and the death of democratic systems that underlie the republic created in that document. We, the united People, are lucky to have held against tyranny THIS TIME!

Now Biden/Harris will have their work cut out for them, and it won't be easy helping to guide and create a "more perfect Union" with accountability and integrity. So much on-going corruption, betrayal of sworn oaths, and new ways to address widely held issues; so little time.

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