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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:44 PM Dec 2020

Did this ever happen to you? (Amazon return policy).

Recently I accidentally ordered three extra of some items I was getting for Christmas. They cost $32 each. They came at separate times, possibly from separate vendors. I didn't pay attention. When I returned the first two, I was given return slips to take to a "nearby" Kohl's (what do people without cars do?). When I launched the return process for the third one, I was told the money would be refunded to my MasterCard but that I did not need to return the item!!!!! That's a return policy I can live with. But I don't see how Amazon can! Any idea what the logic behind this is?

Edit: I wonder if they keep track of who's gotten a "keep it" return so that people don't begin to depend on getting freebies.

tia
las

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Did this ever happen to you? (Amazon return policy). (Original Post) LAS14 Dec 2020 OP
I have also Can't remember what it was but I guess it's cheaper for them to do that. CurtEastPoint Dec 2020 #1
Only for low cost items Jerry2144 Dec 2020 #2
Mine came from Ontario and was $32. But it was not a small box... 18" x 8" x 12". LAS14 Dec 2020 #7
This is how I've experienced Amazon's return policy dlk Dec 2020 #3
its not a good will gesture, its business. drray23 Dec 2020 #16
I've had that happen MissB Dec 2020 #4
Yes, sometimes it is the weirdest mixups though. Tarc Dec 2020 #5
The Kohl's return has been around a few years. Codeine Dec 2020 #6
I had this happen recently,,,, KarenS Dec 2020 #8
Happened to me yesterday with an $11 item that I wanted to return to amazon lanlady Dec 2020 #9
Same thing happened to me Beatlelvr Dec 2020 #10
They figure in the return process costs Johnny2X2X Dec 2020 #11
Probably cheaper than paying to send it back and deal with marketing a returned item. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #12
Buying flat pack furniture shanti Dec 2020 #33
Yup Timewas Dec 2020 #13
If you can make it to Kohls...you get Kohl cash. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #14
Did you have a choice? I couldn't find any way to return it EXCEPT Kohl's. Did I need... LAS14 Dec 2020 #17
There is an option to take it to moonscape Dec 2020 #25
Well, I'm going to bookmark this thread and when I next... LAS14 Dec 2020 #26
I believe Amazon still will accept returns...I have not returned anything. I usually go to Kohls as Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #30
I've had items included in my shipment which I did not order and I've received damaged items RockRaven Dec 2020 #15
somebody is paying for these "free" goods. amazon does nothing that will lose it $$ nt msongs Dec 2020 #18
Reverse Logistics at work. MineralMan Dec 2020 #19
Amazon does seem to keep a blacklist of folks who abuse this too much... HipChick Dec 2020 #20
I once got a big box from Amazon full of children's toys, videos, coloring books. Midnight Writer Dec 2020 #21
It happened to me. Catherine Vincent Dec 2020 #22
Recently returned Bose headphones (which I felt were worse than my cheap ones), mvd Dec 2020 #23
Yes, I bought the wrong windshield wiper, and they sent me the correct wiper, Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #24
It happened to me with Walmart Green Line Dec 2020 #27
For a small item Mz Pip Dec 2020 #28
I got a gift! EndlessWire Dec 2020 #29
Yes, I ordered a t-shirt that was the wrong size. cwydro Dec 2020 #31
Two times Pompoy Dec 2020 #32

Jerry2144

(2,103 posts)
2. Only for low cost items
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:48 PM
Dec 2020

It has happened to me once or twice. It was for items that were low cost or came from overseas where the shipping to return costs were higher than the value of the item. I ordered phone charger cables and had a failure in a month for corrosion. They sent me a new set, then refunded the purchase price. I ended up getting paid by then to take three good charger cables and one defective one. I did test them to ensure nothing sneaky inside them.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
3. This is how I've experienced Amazon's return policy
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:48 PM
Dec 2020

They will issue a refund and depending on the value of the item (usually a low one) will allow you to keep it, as well. It’s a goodwill gesture.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
16. its not a good will gesture, its business.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:10 PM
Dec 2020

cost of shipping it back and restocking it is higher than abandoning the item. Something thats $32.00 may only cost a few dollars to produce.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
4. I've had that happen
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:48 PM
Dec 2020

Recently I ordered something from there that was much less $6. The color was off so I started the return process and they said to keep it.

A friend recently bought a two large dog kennels. One was a wire crate meant for a very large dog. The other was a soft sided crate also meant for a very large dog. He’s getting a puppy that will be a medium dog. So he started the return process and they told him to keep them both.

Sometimes I think they just figure it’s not worth moving this merchandise around the country.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
5. Yes, sometimes it is the weirdest mixups though.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:49 PM
Dec 2020

We ordered some fingerless gloves a few months ago, and a bigger-than-a-pair-of-gloves box was on our doorstep a few days later. Inside was a garish kind of doll, like those stripper-pole Bratz dolls from the early 2000s, I can't recall the brand now. It's still sitting on the floor at home, no idea what to do with it.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. The Kohl's return has been around a few years.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:49 PM
Dec 2020

The refund without return happens a lot, especially with third-party vendors; the logistics of shipping, storing, processing, and possibly repackaging a return far exceed the profit involved, so it’s just quicker and easier to let it go. This is even more common with seasonal items.

Right now online sellers are absolutely swamped with returns — just finding a place to put them all is straining their systems to the breaking point, much less the time and effort to actually deal with the returns in a way that generates profit.

KarenS

(4,079 posts)
8. I had this happen recently,,,,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:52 PM
Dec 2020

I ordered some yarn on Amazon,,, description said there were 2 skeins in a package,,,, I needed 4 skeins but only ordered a quantity of 2 because of the 2 skeins in a package,,, I received 2 skeins 1 package,,,, I did the online question thing and once I got the other person to understand what the description stated they said it was a shipping error,,,, they issued me a refund and said 'keep' the product,,,, huge difference tho my stuff was not $32 a piece,,,,

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
9. Happened to me yesterday with an $11 item that I wanted to return to amazon
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:53 PM
Dec 2020

It's not worth the cost of sending the item back and re-shelving it.

This has happened to me twice with wayfair.com, except that the items I wanted to return were $25-50.

Beatlelvr

(619 posts)
10. Same thing happened to me
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:54 PM
Dec 2020

I order alot from Amazon. This happened on a couple items. One was such a small item they said don't even bother to physically return it, so I gave it to Goodwill. The other item was a porta potty for my elderly mothers bedroom. Turned out she didn't need it. I called the company and they said that item could not be returned. But they gave me a refund anyway! Depends on the item and vendor I guess.
Plus Amazon does such high volume, some things they just don't bother with.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. They figure in the return process costs
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:56 PM
Dec 2020

More than just shipping. There's labor to process the return, accept the return, and restock the item which may or may not be be OK to sell again.

Amazon is one of the first major companies to do the math right. Most companies view returns as a principle, give a refund, you should get it back. Amazon took that emotion out of it and made it a simple math equation.

$40 item, $10 to process, $8 to ship. 30% of returned items have no resale value etc etc. they probably figure in hassle to the customer and good will too.

Say what you want about Amazon, but they've completely revolutionized customer service in a good way.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
12. Probably cheaper than paying to send it back and deal with marketing a returned item.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:57 PM
Dec 2020

I keep seeing ads on Facebook for “Lowe’s pallets.” It appears to be returns. Probably sold to a third party who bundles them as pallets.


I had a vanity from Wayfair show up with a hinge mount broken.

When I called to report the damage they asked if I would be comfortable having them talk me through a repair. No way I said. I’m not repairing a brand new $700 dollar vanity.

So they sent me a new one and said they don’t want the old one back.

A free vanity I will gladly repair. It now sits in a rental.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
33. Buying flat pack furniture
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:55 PM
Dec 2020

on the internet is always a crapshoot. I bought a TV stand that had to be assembled. Problem was, several of the holes didn't line up and other issues popped up. I was going to pack it up and return it, but they said just keep it, and refunded me fully. I still have it, but seldom touch it, as it is barely holding together. You can't tell by looking at it though.

Timewas

(2,195 posts)
13. Yup
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 12:58 PM
Dec 2020

For starters I personally was banned from amazon for returning too many items, they don't care that the stuff was junk I was expected to keep them and eat the loss, talking about $100+ items. they have just said keep some of the cheaper stuff and refunded anyway several times.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
17. Did you have a choice? I couldn't find any way to return it EXCEPT Kohl's. Did I need...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:20 PM
Dec 2020

... to look harder?

tia
las

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
25. There is an option to take it to
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:03 PM
Dec 2020

a UPS store and they will package it for you. I’ve only done that once when I had tossed the box already, and haven’t returned anything for a year or so but assume the option is still there.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
26. Well, I'm going to bookmark this thread and when I next...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Dec 2020

... have to return something I'm going to send you a screen shot and ask you to show me where that option is. We have a UPS store less than half a mile from our house, and it is where we used to always return things.

Stay tuned!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
30. I believe Amazon still will accept returns...I have not returned anything. I usually go to Kohls as
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:43 PM
Dec 2020

get to return the item and I get some cash of of it.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
15. I've had items included in my shipment which I did not order and I've received damaged items
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:07 PM
Dec 2020

and in both circumstances they didn't want the stuff back. I suspect that the human employee time that would be involved in processing returned items makes it cheaper to just let it go. I suspect it is employee-time related because Amazon really seems to emphasize cutting employee costs (all the anti-union stuff, and the high degree of automation).

When Amazon gets an item from their supplier and the item goes into their warehouse, they can somewhat trust their supplier to have provided the item as ordered, and that the item is new, clean, whole, etc because of the depth and/or duration of their business together. They don't need to check inside every container to confirm it holds what the package says it holds.

Amazon cannot trust customers returning stuff to the same degree. So anything returned probably needs to have a human set eyes on it to confirm the thing is what it is supposed to be and not a box of rocks or whatever. It would be bad for their business to restock and then resell garbage.

That's just a guess.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. Reverse Logistics at work.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:03 PM
Dec 2020

The cost of processing a returned item often exceeds the value of the item, especially if you add shipping, etc. to that value. Every returned item must be handled by people and takes up space somewhere. It can't really be resold as new, and has almost no value as a not-new item. It might be sold as part of a large lot of returned items, but the amount recovered still wouldn't even cover the cost of shipping and handling.

So, it often is more economical just to tell the recipient to keep the item or discard it.

I used to sell stuff on eBay and mineral specimens from my own website. If someone complained about an item, I simply refunded their money, because dealing with the process of having it returned was not economical in almost all cases.

So, that's why Amazon doesn't want things back, unless they're more expensive items. It's just not worth the hassle for them. The hassle costs more than the product is worth.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
20. Amazon does seem to keep a blacklist of folks who abuse this too much...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:10 PM
Dec 2020

It would have to be a high rate, but you get flagged..

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
21. I once got a big box from Amazon full of children's toys, videos, coloring books.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:47 PM
Dec 2020

Properly addressed to me, but nothing I ordered.

I contacted them, and they said they would would send me a pre-paid label I could stick on the box to return it.

After a couple weeks, no label came, so I e-mailed them.

Their response was don't worry about it. I could either keep the items or throw them away.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
22. It happened to me.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:51 PM
Dec 2020

I'm thinking it's the type of order. I had ordered a 18 pk of high protein drinks for my dad. He passed in August so I wanted to return the unopened box.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
23. Recently returned Bose headphones (which I felt were worse than my cheap ones),
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:57 PM
Dec 2020

and a nightgown I got for my mom. Not surprised I had to return the headphones to Kohl’s, but I also had to return the $26 nightgown. I am a Prime member.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
24. Yes, I bought the wrong windshield wiper, and they sent me the correct wiper,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:00 PM
Dec 2020

and said don't bother returning the wrong one, (which fits the passenger side).

The driver side wiper and the passenger side wiper on my car are different sizes.

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
27. It happened to me with Walmart
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Dec 2020

I ordered some Gevalia K cups, they sent me a much cheaper brand. When I let them know they told me to just keep them no charge. Turned out I liked the cheaper brand better.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
28. For a small item
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

I bought some air purifier filters that were advertised as fitting the model I had. They didn’t. When I submitted my return my account was credited but was told not to bother to return them. Guess it wasn’t worth the effort to return it to stock.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
29. I got a gift!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 05:24 PM
Dec 2020

I earned some credit from Amazon for doing reviews on stuff I bought. I never cashed in.

Well, in my last Amazon shipment they sent me some free merchandise! I got a 1-lb package of Blue Diamond dark chocolate oven-roasted almonds--delicious--and a pair of nifty one-size-fits-all sock slippers that are good quality.

Plus, some card for something, and little slips for somethings else...I just assume this is something I earned, but it is sure nice to receive! A total surprise, and being starved for it, I really enjoyed it!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. Yes, I ordered a t-shirt that was the wrong size.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:42 PM
Dec 2020

I think it was $25. When I went to see how to return, they told me they were refunding the money, but keep the shirt.

I was quite happy with that lol!

Pompoy

(123 posts)
32. Two times
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:46 PM
Dec 2020

Some headphones, maybe $40-$50, and a salon chair that was probably too expensive to ship back because it was so heavy.

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