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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:08 PM Dec 2020

Top liberals line up behind Nina Turner's House bid

Politico

The Ohio special election sets up a clash between left-wing and establishment-oriented Democrats.

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN

12/15/2020 12:10 PM EST

Top progressive elected officials, groups and entertainers are throwing their weight behind Nina Turner’s congressional campaign, setting up a clash between left-wing and establishment-oriented Democrats over a House seat in Ohio just as President-elect Joe Biden is about to take office.

Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), Bernie Sanders’ former campaign co-chair; Rep.-elect Cori Bush (D-Mo.), a Black Lives Matter activist who unseated an incumbent Democrat; and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison are endorsing Turner, her campaign told POLITICO. Our Revolution, a progressive organization founded by Sanders and previously led by Turner, will be backing her bid as well.

To drum up excitement around her candidacy, liberals plan on tapping their volunteer base and raising money for her from their small-dollar donors.

“Nina will bring a phenomenal commitment to a $15 minimum wage, Medicare for All and free public college. I am all in for her,” said Khanna. “This is an endorsement of conviction. I will be emailing my list, raising money and mobilizing volunteers.”

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Top liberals line up behind Nina Turner's House bid (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 OP
Hmmmm. We'll see. brush Dec 2020 #1
Suuure they are. Squinch Dec 2020 #2
Uggh. hlthe2b Dec 2020 #3
"Top liberals" means Bernie supporters. R B Garr Dec 2020 #4
Lol, no kidding. First they postured as the Only True Progressives Hortensis Dec 2020 #29
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #58
Yes, great post! Well said about the populist lies, aggression R B Garr Dec 2020 #60
It's not too far in my distant memory that "liberals" weren't progressive enough.... George II Dec 2020 #57
Yes, now scrambling to be relevant somehow. R B Garr Dec 2020 #61
Huh. ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #5
maybe she just needs to find another topic beyond perceived conflict among Democratic groups hlthe2b Dec 2020 #6
Yeah. ismnotwasm Dec 2020 #8
this obamanut2012 Dec 2020 #18
lol AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #9
She worked for the Philly papers and NPR, but she never made... JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #28
I s'pose for-profit editorializing is a nice gig. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #50
For profit... JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #51
Nicest wrappings often goes on the empty box. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #52
She's a great writer. PTWB Dec 2020 #53
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #54
All those entertainers? sheshe2 Dec 2020 #56
When Susan Sarandon says Democrats are corrupt warmongers worse than Trump, betsuni Dec 2020 #62
A third rate reporter's fourth rate story AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #7
A very short list of "Top Liberals," I'd say. MineralMan Dec 2020 #10
Marcia Fudge has mentored and endorsed city council woman Shontel Brown. octoberlib Dec 2020 #11
She sounds like a "no-brainer." I honestly do not understand why Nina has any support remaining. hlthe2b Dec 2020 #13
TY for that, octoberlib.. I bet Shontel Cha Dec 2020 #16
Huff Post: Nina Turner Compares Voting for our PE Biden Cha Dec 2020 #12
Sort of reminds me of what I'd like to say to Nina Turner... hlthe2b Dec 2020 #15
Yeah.. 81 Million People say Cha Dec 2020 #17
It is mentioned in the article. JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #21
And this is one of many reasons I will giving to someone else Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #38
Mistake. Nt jaysunb Dec 2020 #14
No to disinformation about who liberals are. Our Democratic Party Hortensis Dec 2020 #19
You're right... the ones mentioned are not "top liberals". But then again look who wrote it. Ugh. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #22
Oh, yes. When she write about LW populists and Democrats, she's a Hortensis Dec 2020 #34
ExFreakingZactly! I'm so sick of their Cha Dec 2020 #24
No one of the Squad Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #20
Nina Turner is a nasty piece of work Botany Dec 2020 #23
Don't I know it.. all the way out Cha Dec 2020 #25
Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To "EATING SHIT" NurseJackie Dec 2020 #35
I have seen her in person, been with in feet of her, she is not a nice person, and Botany Dec 2020 #43
In TV interviews, she's always (ALWAYS!) rude and abrasive. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #44
God help us. boston bean Dec 2020 #26
Top liberals are our President and Vice President Elect JI7 Dec 2020 #27
I've been a liberal my entire life, a registered Dem since I worked on the Gene McCarthy campaign Hekate Dec 2020 #30
They aren't top liberals mcar Dec 2020 #31
Khanna is one of the richest members of the House/Senate, with tens of millions invested on Wall St. George II Dec 2020 #40
OK for me but not for thee mcar Dec 2020 #41
I don't hold investing his millions against him. Blue_true Dec 2020 #46
That's my district cmeneer Dec 2020 #32
Same shit, different day from Politico... Spazito Dec 2020 #33
Lol. cwydro Dec 2020 #36
That was pretty much my reaction when I read the list of names. nt Blue_true Dec 2020 #47
She calls herself the "Daughter of Cleveland" sheshe2 Dec 2020 #37
Myohmy, myohmy. I wonder how Turner feels about being endorsed by the 15th richest member.... George II Dec 2020 #39
Hmmm sheshe2 Dec 2020 #55
The writers at Politico carrying water for the GOP again pecosbob Dec 2020 #42
You title said "top liberals". I thought that you were talking Pelosi, the CBC, others. nt Blue_true Dec 2020 #45
I think "top" in this case refers to the article's author's tastes DFW Dec 2020 #48
Yes, I guess it's all in the eyes of the beholder. nt Blue_true Dec 2020 #49
Top liberals? Oh great, add another one to the list of words with new meanings betsuni Dec 2020 #59

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Lol, no kidding. First they postured as the Only True Progressives
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:07 PM
Dec 2020

by making that the brand name of LW populists, claiming all our ideals and goals as their own and that we were corporatist enemies of progressivism. That got a tiny fraction of their people elected, but unfortunately their successes against Democrats also included helping elect Trump and Republican majorities across the nation.

Now looks like a group that includes a large proportion of IL-liberal, very hostile, anti-Democratic populists may be going to posture as America's Only True Liberals.

Young people always include some relatively easy pickings, but their problem going forward is going to that populist lies and aggression against America's liberals are not going to draw in America's liberal voters. Nor do America's liberals want socialist revolution; we already had our revolution, which peoples around the planet have been copying ever since.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
60. Yes, great post! Well said about the populist lies, aggression
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:45 PM
Dec 2020

towards Democrats and a rejected Revolution. Excellent points.

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. It's not too far in my distant memory that "liberals" weren't progressive enough....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:42 PM
Dec 2020

Funny how that changed, eh?

ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
5. Huh.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:16 PM
Dec 2020
Top progressive elected officials, groups and entertainers are throwing their weight behind Nina Turner’s congressional campaign, setting up a clash between left-wing and establishment-oriented Democrats over a House seat in Ohio just as President-elect Joe Biden is about to take office


To drum up excitement around her candidacy, liberals plan on tapping their volunteer base and raising money for her from their small-dollar donors.


I really hope your daughter gets a better writing gig than Politico.

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
6. maybe she just needs to find another topic beyond perceived conflict among Democratic groups
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020

It has gotten old, IMO, but appears to be her "niche".

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
28. She worked for the Philly papers and NPR, but she never made...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:04 PM
Dec 2020

...as much money as she is making working for Politico.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. I s'pose for-profit editorializing is a nice gig.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:53 PM
Dec 2020

As it certainly allows a much broader, less objective definition of "top liberals", and a wider latitude of failing to cite relevant sources.

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
51. For profit...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:58 PM
Dec 2020

...is great to hear, for a dad who raked-out plenty to get her to that point! As long as her bosses are good with her reports, then the rest is just the opinion of others.

I used to write op-eds for the local papers for profit. Definitely better than writing for free!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
52. Nicest wrappings often goes on the empty box.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:03 PM
Dec 2020

But wrapping paper rarely advertises the actual contents. Your is nice wrapping. Unsourced, uncited and overly-broad, but... nice. I s'pose. Great, indeed.

But were all Democrats, and as you said, Democrats are fighters. In fact you said, Democrats... "will do anything to win. Fight, battle, destroy and yes, even hurt the feelings of pundits and other critics."

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
53. She's a great writer.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:08 PM
Dec 2020

She’s also quite politically astute. Her article ‘How Pennsylvania was won’ was particularly good.

You taught her well!

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
56. All those entertainers?
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:38 PM
Dec 2020

All three of them?

Rapper Killer Mike and actor Danny Glover, who both campaigned for Sanders, are also backing Turner, and the musician is going to push for her on Instagram, Turner said in an interview. Charlamagne tha God, the co-host of the popular radio show “The Breakfast Club," is also getting behind her, she said.


Huge names in entertainment all three of them.

What Whoa, what happened to Sue? She is now gone and forgotten.

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
62. When Susan Sarandon says Democrats are corrupt warmongers worse than Trump,
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:06 AM
Dec 2020

we're told that she's just an entertainer, nobody cares what she says or who she supports and has no influence.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. A very short list of "Top Liberals," I'd say.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:22 PM
Dec 2020

This is not convincing journalism. It's more a fan club newsletter article.

Nina Turner will end up out of the running. Won't even place.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
11. Marcia Fudge has mentored and endorsed city council woman Shontel Brown.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:28 PM
Dec 2020

Shontel Brown (Democratic Party) is a member of the Cuyahoga County Council, representing District 9 in Ohio. She assumed office in 2015.

Brown (Democratic Party) ran for re-election to the Cuyahoga County Council to represent District 9 in Ohio. She won in the general election on November 6, 2018.

https://ballotpedia.org/Shontel_Brown

Brown decided to run for public office, serving three years on the Warrensville Heights City Council before becoming District 9 representative on the Cuyahoga County Council. But it was all a prelude to her current position.

In 2017, Brown was elected chair of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party. She is the first woman, and the first African American, to hold the position. https://www.tri-c.edu/news-and-events/news/county-democratic-party-chair-started-her-path-at-tri-c.html

Cha

(297,323 posts)
16. TY for that, octoberlib.. I bet Shontel
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:37 PM
Dec 2020

Brown would make a brilliant Rep for Marcia Fudge's District in Ohio!

Cha

(297,323 posts)
12. Huff Post: Nina Turner Compares Voting for our PE Biden
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:34 PM
Dec 2020

to eating shit.. I don"t want her near president Biden.

Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To Eating ‘S**t’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. No to disinformation about who liberals are. Our Democratic Party
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:46 PM
Dec 2020

caucuses are full of liberals, and their leaderships are America's "top liberals."

Look farther left than 200 liberals in congress for the liberals mentioned here.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. You're right... the ones mentioned are not "top liberals". But then again look who wrote it. Ugh.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:52 PM
Dec 2020

That Polly Gottawhine character is less of a reporter and more of a water-carrier. More than once, I've observed her idea of "reporting" was to cut and paste some candidate's press release... damn-near word-for-word.

Look farther left than 200 liberals in congress for the liberals mentioned here.
Perfect! Thank you! If I was as smart as you are, that's exactly what I would have said.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Oh, yes. When she write about LW populists and Democrats, she's a
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:26 PM
Dec 2020

strong and consistent anti-Democratic partisan, which I've always assumed is what Politico, etc., want or it wouldn't be allowed. Does she actually report for media that would require her to adhere to journalistic ethics and standards? Maybe she only does commentary and isn't a reporter at all.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
24. ExFreakingZactly! I'm so sick of their
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 03:54 PM
Dec 2020

labeling.. like they know what they're talking about. They don't.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. Nina Turner Compares Voting For Biden To "EATING SHIT"
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:51 PM
Dec 2020

Here's a link for the folks who often argue that she didn't actually say that. Or that it's taken out of context. (Lord!) https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

Nina Turner is a nasty piece of work
And HOW! You said it! But... wait, there's more! She's also a Jill Stein voter. She voted for Stein instead of Hillary and encouraged others to do the same. She has no loyalty or allegiance to the Democratic party, or our party's candidates or leadership. In fact, the lamented that she was being "forced" to run "as-a-Democrat".

First of all... the word "forced" is pretty damn revealing of her mental state. But those other three words ("as a Democrat'') are a clear and unmistakable admission that she doesn't identify as being a Democrat, and that this association with the Democratic party is merely a technicality (ie: a means to an end).

Whatever I can afford, I'll donate to her opponent.

Botany

(70,518 posts)
43. I have seen her in person, been with in feet of her, she is not a nice person, and
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:12 PM
Dec 2020

she treats people like shit.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. In TV interviews, she's always (ALWAYS!) rude and abrasive.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:21 PM
Dec 2020

She talks too LOUD (even when she's got a lapel mic) and she talks too FAST! I can barely understand what she's trying to say and she's aggressive, won't let others speak (even the host or interviewer), she won't give direct answers to direct questions, she interrupts others and she interrupts the host/interviewer.

It just baffles me why she has any "following" at all.

It's offensive to me that she's compared Biden to a "BOWL OF SHIT" and it's also offensive that she feels that she's being "forced" to run "as a Democrat" (as if it's BENEATH her... as if she has to LOWER herself as a means to an end.)

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
30. I've been a liberal my entire life, a registered Dem since I worked on the Gene McCarthy campaign
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:18 PM
Dec 2020

Why, please tell me why, every time Sanders fans divide up the political landscape, I and my ilk end up as “not liberals” ?

Democratic big tent not big enough for the actual backbone of the Party, meaning all those who’ve spent a lifetime supporting and upholding and expanding the basic tenets of the tent?

Maybe Nina Turner et al. need to erect their own tent. After all, she herself has already said she is not a Democrat, and only running as one because there is nothing better, which I take to mean the Democrats are stupid enough to let her use our name despite her despising us.

Just sayin’

PS: when someone has made it clear they don’t think of themselves as a Democrat, it is not “bashing fellow Dems” to point that out.
jmho

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. Khanna is one of the richest members of the House/Senate, with tens of millions invested on Wall St.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 06:27 PM
Dec 2020

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. I don't hold investing his millions against him.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:27 PM
Dec 2020

What is he supposed to do with the money, bury it in his back yard? I would be more interested in how much he gives to charity each year.

cmeneer

(253 posts)
32. That's my district
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:23 PM
Dec 2020

And I would NEVER vote for Turner. I vote for Democrats. Although I live in Another county, gerrymandering has us with Cuyahoga county in Marcias district. I’ll vote for anyone but Nina.

Spazito

(50,372 posts)
33. Same shit, different day from Politico...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 04:25 PM
Dec 2020

working hard to divide Democrats and sow discord. It is getting beyond tiresome.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Myohmy, myohmy. I wonder how Turner feels about being endorsed by the 15th richest member....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 06:26 PM
Dec 2020

....of the House AND Senate combined?

DFW

(54,410 posts)
48. I think "top" in this case refers to the article's author's tastes
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:36 PM
Dec 2020

Sort of on a par with how Maria Bartiromo's "high ups" in the intelligence community are waiting to divulge their top secret (but rock solid) info about how Trump really did win the election. "Top" or "high up," whichever, it's often in the eye of the beholder.

Like the song goes, "It Ain't Necessarily So."

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
59. Top liberals? Oh great, add another one to the list of words with new meanings
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:58 PM
Dec 2020

insinuating Democrats aren't members of that group.

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