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I have to wait until the FR and Nursing Homes . I should get mine within a month.
My sister is a nursing home administrator -she just got the job 3 weeks ago. She has already gotten hers.
(that kind of pisses me off because she used to call this pandemic a hoax)
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)and I'm interested in seeing what the side effects, if any, are. Better safe and alive than dead.
I'm definitely NOT an anti-vaxxer, just getting cautious in my old age.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines.
The efficacy is 95% for Moderna and >75% for Pfizer. Most common side effects seem to be headaches, fatigue, and pain, warmth, and localized skin irritation at the site of inoculation.
I don't trust Trump's FDA or CDC, but I trust the peer-reviewed medical journals.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)The one big question is still the potential for long-term consequences.
I'll probably still get it in March, or so, when it is widely available, since the risks associated with COVID are so high. But I'll be glad to have a bit more information by then about mid-term consequences. (Not likely to hold out for long-term data, but not duking it out to be first in line, either.)
Aristus
(66,388 posts)In this case, because COVID-19 has been so highly, and needlessly, politicized, my concern is less with the data than it is with those reviewing the data.
The major medical journals will be around long after Trump has gone to the great dumpster fire Below. And even the pharmaceutical companies are not going to want to deal with the PR fallout caused by an ineffective, unsafe vaccine.
As a medical provider, I will very likely be getting the vaccine soon. I will post my experience when the time comes.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)tblue37
(65,408 posts)Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)The people who accidentally got a lower dose ended up at 90% efficacy. So curious to know what happened there.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... over and over as 95%.
chowder66
(9,073 posts)snip..... (this is from 5 days ago)
RESULTS
A total of 43,548 participants underwent randomization, of whom 43,448 received injections: 21,720 with BNT162b2 and 21,728 with placebo. There were 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose among participants assigned to receive BNT162b2 and 162 cases among those assigned to placebo; BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19 (95% credible interval, 90.3 to 97.6). Similar vaccine efficacy (generally 90 to 100%) was observed across subgroups defined by age, sex, race, ethnicity, baseline body-mass index, and the presence of coexisting conditions. Among 10 cases of severe Covid-19 with onset after the first dose, 9 occurred in placebo recipients and 1 in a BNT162b2 recipient. The safety profile of BNT162b2 was characterized by short-term, mild-to-moderate pain at the injection site, fatigue, and headache. The incidence of serious adverse events was low and was similar in the vaccine and placebo groups.
CONCLUSIONS
A two-dose regimen of BNT162b2 conferred 95% protection against Covid-19 in persons 16 years of age or older. Safety over a median of 2 months was similar to that of other viral vaccines. (Funded by BioNTech and Pfizer; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04368728. opens in new tab.)
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
Aristus
(66,388 posts)I read the article five days ago. That's what I get for relying on memory...
chowder66
(9,073 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... trial data which was one of the reasons a person on the FDA didn't vote for EUA
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I am a Senior with high risk condition so I assume I will be in one of the first large waves. My gut is telling me I probably won't be getting it until March or April. I don't think things will work that quickly.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)I nearly died when I had a flu shot about 30 years ago and have avoided them completely ever since. HORRIBLY ALLERGIC to the inactive ingredients in medications. Like DEADLY ALLERGIC. No way am I just gonna get in line for the Covid vaccine until I know more.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)wise you are to be careful.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)One way or the other...deadly!
janterry
(4,429 posts)for you (and it probably isn't)
I did hear one MD talk about people getting the shot at the hospital and waiting there (in case there was a reaction).
But, I do understand - I've had a friend who - like you - really can't get vaccines (so she doesn't).
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)You name a medication, and I am allergic. I am down to one antibiotic I can take...but ONLY in pill form because I am horribly allergic to whatever is put in capsules.
Thanks gawd I am not allergic to chocolate or dogs! Small comfort for one who most likely cannot take the vaccine.
Ruby Zee
(170 posts)Not sure when that will be. I have a lot of pets dependent on me and no family to take them if anything happens to me.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)Can you find a rescue for them? I found 2 near me that would take my horses and one for my goats and I have family that will take the dogs and cats. It is scary knowing they could be left. I contacted some places that take in abused and alone animals and they are now in my will just in case with money to see my old animals through the rest of their lives. The comfort that gave me is worth all the time and the money it took to have that added to my last wishes.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)meanwhile, following the guidelines as much as possible.
Hell, I was functionally a hermit already before this shit started so I'm doing OK so far.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)There are a boatload of older farts in front of me and I can't even see the front of the line.
I'm glad I packed my trusty chaise lounge and a stack of hard-boiled detective novels with me, but Dammit, my thermos of covfefe is empty.
mdelaguna
(471 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Many others need it more than I do. I live in the boonies and go to town once a week.
Nobody has been in the house since March. Waiting for a few more months won't bother me.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)My state is giving the vaccine to our prison population before high risk older individuals like my parents.
LeftInTX
(25,381 posts)A friend of mine is getting hers' now or either an hour from now. She's a radiation oncologist at a teaching hospital.
Delphinus
(11,831 posts)estimates I have about 62,454,003 ahead of me ... so it will be a while.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)I looked into it and I am way way way down the list. I am 67, have an auto immune disease, a serious digestive condition (I don't think that would make any difference one way or the other) but I have be hospitalized and suffered with pneumonia 4 times. Still, I am months from the time that it goes to everyone else in my family. Kinda odd since I am the only one with a serious problem but I am OK with waiting. I wish it was not so but it is what it is.