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My Pet Orangutan

(9,259 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:00 PM Dec 2020

Disappointed with the offer of Transportation to Pete Buttigieg.

It is a waste of his stellar communication skills.

If it had to be a domestic appointment, Pete would have been better as Senior Counsellor to the President, a cabinet-level position up until 1993.

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Disappointed with the offer of Transportation to Pete Buttigieg. (Original Post) My Pet Orangutan Dec 2020 OP
I read that it will be important to infrastructure rebuilding. Karadeniz Dec 2020 #1
I thought maybe he'd go to VA where there is some opportunity for public exposure. bluedigger Dec 2020 #2
VA is a mess, a more senior person needs to take that on Rice4VP Dec 2020 #9
Well, if he's not ready for the VA now, when will he be ready to be President? bluedigger Dec 2020 #15
The administration can make him frequently available to be interviewed on TV and radio. tblue37 Dec 2020 #35
Pete will be front and center as a cabinet secretary! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2020 #3
I have to disagree. panader0 Dec 2020 #4
Joe likes trains, partially because he rode one from LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #5
Imagine a real high speed train infrastructure like Europe or Asia greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #33
I agree. LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #44
FDR was Secretary of Navy cire41 Dec 2020 #6
Flawed example. He was the Assistant Secretary of the Navy not Secretary. JanMichael Dec 2020 #20
True, that Assistant Secretary position did help though cire41 Dec 2020 #27
What counsel can Pete give Biden who has worked in Washington Rice4VP Dec 2020 #7
From what I understand xmas74 Dec 2020 #8
It's an extremely important position that oversees some 11 federal agencies, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #10
Do you EVER get tired of being right? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #38
LOL! I am often wrong; I just try not to do it on DU The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #42
❤️✿❧🌿❧✿❤️ Lucinda Dec 2020 #41
I wonder how Pete sees it? BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #11
I'm sure he sees it as the opportunity that it is. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #12
Exactly. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #18
I can sort of see why: it's not showy or flashy or a big-name job... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #32
Not yet, but it will be. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #48
Not a bad gig for a 38-year-old! DrToast Dec 2020 #49
Yes, really! treestar Dec 2020 #26
I think his smart, generation, is just the one to look forward. I think it is very clever and strong LizBeth Dec 2020 #13
Transportation re-invention/renovation is critical for the green new deal. Pobeka Dec 2020 #14
100% correct greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #31
Two words: Elaine Chao. It's an important post. Hekate Dec 2020 #16
Hekate bdamomma Dec 2020 #54
Look at it as the first rung on a tall ladder. n/t DFW Dec 2020 #17
I hope he's not disappointed. elleng Dec 2020 #19
I agree AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #21
It makes him a cabinet secretary. That could help lay the groundwork for more down the line. StevieM Dec 2020 #22
I think he will be good for transportation ... CatMor Dec 2020 #23
Why wait to be disappointed? treestar Dec 2020 #24
Wonder if he asked for this position scrabblequeen40 Dec 2020 #25
LOL ... He'll be fine. Iggo Dec 2020 #28
Buttigieg is going to be a success wherever he is. cwydro Dec 2020 #29
An ambitious guy like Buttigieg doesn't entertain Transportation Secretary UNLESS greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #30
I worked at Transportation when Norman Mineta montanacowboy Dec 2020 #34
Cool job! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #39
Right! montanacowboy Dec 2020 #51
I don't think we pay enough attention to that department nuxvomica Dec 2020 #36
Transportation is a critical post. 28% of GHG emissions, 20% of household budgets. Alex4Martinez Dec 2020 #37
He'll be in a pretty exclusive club...only 15 members Totally Tunsie Dec 2020 #40
Why can't he use his communication skills for this job ? JI7 Dec 2020 #43
OFFS, It's a cabinet position. denbot Dec 2020 #45
he should have done this.... quickesst Dec 2020 #46
A cabinet position to a person who has never held a SharonClark Dec 2020 #47
I'm guessing you're simply not fully aware of what the job entails. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #50
It's HARDLY a waste of his communication skills. GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #52
Former mayor of a mid-sized city.... Wounded Bear Dec 2020 #53
I think Mayor Pete is a pretty good judge of what is best for him. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #55
If Pete is happy, why the disappointment? Generic Brad Dec 2020 #56

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
2. I thought maybe he'd go to VA where there is some opportunity for public exposure.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:05 PM
Dec 2020

He will do well and be needed many places, but Transportation seems a little quiet.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
15. Well, if he's not ready for the VA now, when will he be ready to be President?
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:19 PM
Dec 2020

Big men (and women) rise to big challenges. In any case, it's a moot point now, isn't it?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. I have to disagree.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:06 PM
Dec 2020

Transportation will be at the front of infrastructure work, which is very needed and will be a
bonus for both parties. Pete will excel and add to his stature. What did Chao accomplish?
Pete will have a positive impact, should he accept, and everyone will be a beneficiary.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
5. Joe likes trains, partially because he rode one from
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:07 PM
Dec 2020

Wilmington to Washington all those years. He might want to push through a high speed rail or something else that would solve our transportation issues, because we have some breakdown there. Could be high profile for this administration.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
33. Imagine a real high speed train infrastructure like Europe or Asia
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:00 PM
Dec 2020

We can do this. We need a communicator like Pete to make it real.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
44. I agree.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:26 PM
Dec 2020

That's what we need. If we can get the Senate we want, maybe we can make it a reality. Also, it would be nice, if possible to get some Republicans to go along and make it a bipartisan effort. Now is the time to work on some of the Republican Senators and Representatives and see if we can break some of them off and start to heal some of the division. Joe can do it; I think he's still got it in him.

cire41

(34 posts)
6. FDR was Secretary of Navy
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:07 PM
Dec 2020

FDR’s experience running a major federal government department helped him become such a successful administrator 15 years later as president.

This experience will help Mayor Pete in the long run. That’s why he wants it...

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
20. Flawed example. He was the Assistant Secretary of the Navy not Secretary.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:35 PM
Dec 2020

FDR
New York state senator (1910–1913)
Assistant Secretary of the Navy (1913–1919)
Campaign for Vice President (1920)
Paralytic illness and political comeback (1921–1928)
Governor of New York (1929–1932)
1932 presidential election

I guess Mayor Pete can run for a state office first after DOT. Although he reversed FDR who did the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 6 years before throwing his hat in for President. Mayor Pete went from mayor to running for President. Big leap for sure.

I think FDR's experience as a Governor of NY probably helped more.

cire41

(34 posts)
27. True, that Assistant Secretary position did help though
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:56 PM
Dec 2020

Wilson notoriously expanded the power of the federal government and some presidential historians think that working as a cogwheel in the machinery of this expansion helped FDR develop his views on just how effective a powerful federal government can be at solving the nation’s problems...

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
7. What counsel can Pete give Biden who has worked in Washington
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:08 PM
Dec 2020

for like 50 years? I’m just happy that he’s in the cabinet

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
8. From what I understand
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:08 PM
Dec 2020

He was tagged because there are plans for a huge infrastructure project, possibly along the lines of a CCC style project. Something that big but usually dry could use an intelligent,lively frontman to sell its virtues to the public.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
10. It's an extremely important position that oversees some 11 federal agencies,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:09 PM
Dec 2020

including the FAA, with a $75 billion budget and more than 55,000 employees. It's a much more substantial position than some vaguely-defined WH aide position and it will give him excellent creds for another run for president again someday, especially if there are major infrastructure projects (for real) down the road.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
32. I can sort of see why: it's not showy or flashy or a big-name job...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:59 PM
Dec 2020

Like Sec'y of State or some such. I know Pete will take it and make it into something important that will help the country, and himself. Which is as it should be.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
13. I think his smart, generation, is just the one to look forward. I think it is very clever and strong
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:15 PM
Dec 2020

I have a son getting his degree in urban planning. It is a whole new world for what we need our new world to look like.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
14. Transportation re-invention/renovation is critical for the green new deal.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:19 PM
Dec 2020

Some may say *the* most critical component. I'm delighted to have Mayor Pete's communication skills sitting right there.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
31. 100% correct
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:59 PM
Dec 2020

It's a signal that infrastructural change is top of the agenda. Anyone with less face recognition would signal that it's lower on the agenda. This is a big pick, and maybe the biggest for our day to day lives and real approaches to climate change.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
19. I hope he's not disappointed.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:34 PM
Dec 2020

'If confirmed, Mr. Buttigieg would be the first openly gay person to serve in a presidential cabinet, and at age 38 he would represent youth in a cabinet that has so far skewed closer to Mr. Biden’s generation.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/us/politics/biden-democrats.html?

He will be busy, lots happening, AND if I hadn't retired, he'd be my 'boss!' (Many positions removed.)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
22. It makes him a cabinet secretary. That could help lay the groundwork for more down the line.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:49 PM
Dec 2020

It adds to his resume when being considered for president or vice-president in the future.

If nothing else it might lead to a higher cabinet post after a few years, like Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
23. I think he will be good for transportation ...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:51 PM
Dec 2020

I would love to see high speed rail in the US. and think he would be great for pushing that. Also, our roads and bridges are in dire need of repair and rebuild. Not much was done during the trump administration and Pete will oversee it with enthusiasm.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Why wait to be disappointed?
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:53 PM
Dec 2020

Why is everything looked at like this?

We are never going to learn here. Always the down side.

scrabblequeen40

(334 posts)
25. Wonder if he asked for this position
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:53 PM
Dec 2020

We don't know what conversations are happening behind the scenes. It's possible Pete asked for this (for reasons we aren't privvy to).

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
29. Buttigieg is going to be a success wherever he is.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:56 PM
Dec 2020

I’m sure he sees this as the huge opportunity it is, and Joe has put that department in good hands.

I keep seeing people disparaging Cabinet posts here “Agriculture is nothing.” “Ugh, Transportation.”

This is the President’s Cabinet people! Just because the buffoon put know-nothing, do -nothings in these positions means fuckall.

Joe is doing a great job. Pete will too.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
30. An ambitious guy like Buttigieg doesn't entertain Transportation Secretary UNLESS
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:57 PM
Dec 2020

Transportation infrastructure is gong to be a front and center priority and radical point of transformation in US society in the Prez's agenda. Pete's going to be on TV weekly.

montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
34. I worked at Transportation when Norman Mineta
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:03 PM
Dec 2020

was the secretary. It is a HUGE agency and we had over 10,000 federal employees. There are many agencies under transportation. I worked in Research and Special Programs Administration and you would be surprised what that covered!! like oil spills, etc. Pete will have a very important job and a good place to springboard upwards.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
39. Cool job!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:14 PM
Dec 2020

Transportation is also part of the national security apparatus. It's not a fluffy agency.

This is a huge job.

montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
51. Right!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:04 PM
Dec 2020

on 9/11 the main security information center was set up at Transportation. What a day that was. I can still remember every moment.

nuxvomica

(12,431 posts)
36. I don't think we pay enough attention to that department
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:06 PM
Dec 2020

It's incredibly important to our way of life. Seems to me a fellow like Buttigieg is just the right choice to make us pay more attention.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
37. Transportation is a critical post. 28% of GHG emissions, 20% of household budgets.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:10 PM
Dec 2020

YMMV, but the lower the income the greater the share going to transportation.

Put Pete together with Jen Granholm, Secty of Energy, and build infrastructure for electrified public transit everywhere.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
40. He'll be in a pretty exclusive club...only 15 members
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:14 PM
Dec 2020

in the U.S. Nothing disappointing in that!

With Joe's "Build Back Better", Transportation and Infrastructure will be pretty *HOT* items. Elaine Chao may not have done anything in the position, but Pete can elevate it exponentially. He'll be a terrific Cabinet member.

denbot

(9,900 posts)
45. OFFS, It's a cabinet position.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:37 PM
Dec 2020

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Mayor Pete will not only burnish his political stature on a national stage, it will prove invaluable experience for higher office.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
46. he should have done this....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:42 PM
Dec 2020

.... he should have done that. I think I'll wait and see what Mayor Pete has to say about it. Who is being offered the position, and whose decision is it to accept or not? It ain't none of us.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
47. A cabinet position to a person who has never held a
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:56 PM
Dec 2020

job of that magnitude at the state, federal, or corporate level is a high honor and a huge responsibility.

This will be Pete’s chance to prove his talent and I can’t imagine he’s anything other than thrilled and grateful.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. I'm guessing you're simply not fully aware of what the job entails.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:04 PM
Dec 2020

It may not be sexy, but that's really the last thing I want to see in leadership.

You should do some digging into the full breadth of the department's responsibilities. You may be surprised.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
52. It's HARDLY a waste of his communication skills.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:15 PM
Dec 2020

You understand that the Aviation and Martimes & Waterways are both part of the department, right? Both entail international relationships, and not just Canada and Mexico, either. We have ships and airplanes coming into the country from nearly everywhere in the world. Communication skills are every bit as important here as they are in the State Department. Pipelines and Hazmat are also under its jurisdiction. As in the tar sands pipelines that run through this country from Canada, along with more of them that they keep trying to shove down our throats. Thank goodness we'll have someone like Pete in that job soon.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
53. Former mayor of a mid-sized city....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:23 PM
Dec 2020

Hmmm, I think it could work. Joe is big on infrastructure, Pete sounds like a good candidate to handle that.

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