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Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:01 PM Dec 2020

Steve Schmidt is registering with the Democratic Party.



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Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Steve Schmidt is registering with the Democratic Party.

David Plouffe
@davidplouffe
Steve breaks some big news about his party affiliation. And the legendary @carlbernstein breaks down today's news and puts it in historical context. It may not be the episode you want to hear, but need to hear. https://therecount.com/podcasts/battleground
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Steve Schmidt is registering with the Democratic Party. (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP
Great! PJMcK Dec 2020 #1
How would he do that? Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #34
In some states - not Arkansas and, I think, not Texas, TomSlick Dec 2020 #60
In Georgia we have to declare for the primary mdbl Dec 2020 #88
Same in North Carolina. I will switch parties to vote against Trump in the primaries. BComplex Dec 2020 #160
same here for the Iowa caucuses. cab67 Dec 2020 #167
It's embarrassing, isn't it. FoxNewsSucks Dec 2020 #114
I forget how many states do not allow for party registration TexasProgresive Dec 2020 #158
This message was self-deleted by its author Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #92
No, I was wondering how the previous poster thought he might Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #95
By being so talented with... zentrum Dec 2020 #99
Some seem to think Schmidt has superpowers and a diabolical plot to betsuni Dec 2020 #103
I'm glad he is aboard... FarPoint Dec 2020 #2
Welcome Steve ! C_U_L8R Dec 2020 #3
That is some big news. madaboutharry Dec 2020 #4
I guess this means he's formally tossing in the towel on the GOP. herding cats Dec 2020 #5
The Lincoln Project & Schmidt burnt their bridges to GOP many months ago & were public about it. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #22
The Lincoln Project aimed flamethrowers and napalm at the GOP. My Pet Orangutan Dec 2020 #77
For the current iteration of the GOP, they are apostates. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #83
Yay!! We can use his intel...Dems can hire him!! LeftInTX Dec 2020 #6
In deed!! i've been listening to him on MSNBC the past 4 years. He is one smart guy. Sure he was one onetexan Dec 2020 #24
Kurt Bardella , also a Lincoln Project NeverTrumper became a Democrat a year ago octoberlib Dec 2020 #7
Ok, that's good news. I appreciate how he helped with "The Lincoln Project". brush Dec 2020 #8
Agree. i do think deep down Schmidt is one of the good eggs of the former GOP. I do believe he will onetexan Dec 2020 #28
He's already done this! Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #38
Whoa, how so? onetexan Dec 2020 #134
Is it wierd that I want a weekly youtube stream of the 2 of them cooking stuff, Volaris Dec 2020 #72
It's weird, but I kinda like it. AOC may have some good, Nuyorican recipes... brush Dec 2020 #85
I think so too MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #131
Wow! LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #9
Also, this is a good podcast. octoberlib Dec 2020 #10
Normally, I'd be suspicious, but Schmidt just doesn't seem the type to play Trojan Horse DFW Dec 2020 #11
John Dean was a Republican, too. murielm99 Dec 2020 #150
BIG asset for us Bayard Dec 2020 #12
Wow awesomerwb1 Dec 2020 #13
He will be great for messaging, the biggest weakness in the spooky3 Dec 2020 #25
Bingo! nt LittleGirl Dec 2020 #161
Welcome aboard, Steve. I think we can work something out, here in the Big Tent. Hekate Dec 2020 #14
yay steve...one of my favs. samnsara Dec 2020 #15
A high-profile convert! Congratulations, Steve, and welcome! keopeli Dec 2020 #16
Good for him - KT2000 Dec 2020 #17
I think some had hope for the Republican Party to come to its senses some day Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #41
Hey Steve! Welcome aboard! vlyons Dec 2020 #18
Even if it's one of ours Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #45
Sweeet... Deuxcents Dec 2020 #19
Perhaps after Trump, we will evolve to a one party center-based Democracy, Budi Dec 2020 #20
wow mshasta Dec 2020 #21
Wow. He really has rejected the dark side. He's been sounding more and more like a Democrat catbyte Dec 2020 #23
Wow ! I had a feeling that he would stay as an independent for a while, but glad he has jumped in ! OnDoutside Dec 2020 #26
Howard Schultz WA-03 Democrat Dec 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author mobeau69 Dec 2020 #29
Welcome, Steve. Glad to have you with us. niyad Dec 2020 #30
I ❤️ it. Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #31
He's a good man, he will teach Democrats to grow some spine bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #32
He's great-- SO glad he'll be one of us!! ailsagirl Dec 2020 #111
If anything BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 #33
Hes always been a democrat jcgoldie Dec 2020 #35
SUPERB! n/t Eyeball_Kid Dec 2020 #36
I guess I am on the outside-- Schmidt can register all he wants... demmiblue Dec 2020 #37
That's ok Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #46
Love and Steve Schmidt... umm, ok. demmiblue Dec 2020 #51
Ok, you're right Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2020 #54
I'm with you. dflprincess Dec 2020 #94
DINOs are better than RINOs dansolo Dec 2020 #156
Watch what they do, not what they say pecosbob Dec 2020 #39
Not to mention the war crimes he defended questionseverything Dec 2020 #166
Welcome aboard Steve. And thank you for putting country above party Marie Marie Dec 2020 #40
Welcome Steve! colorado_ufo Dec 2020 #42
Wow. I have to say I was wrong about Steve. LakeArenal Dec 2020 #43
Where Luntz shines is in choosing verbiage. Depressingly effective. Zipgun Dec 2020 #81
Schmidt has shown some very unDemocratic stuff LakeArenal Dec 2020 #87
I hope he shows up around here to check out what's made Democrats fighters since 2000. ancianita Dec 2020 #44
Welcome Steve and AOC together. I love smart people like those two. nt bonniebgood Dec 2020 #47
I'm delighted, I'm a huge fan Happyhippychick Dec 2020 #48
Like most of us, he genuinely cares about democracy, the Constitution and justice. A welcome voice. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #49
Am I the only one worried he will try to remake the Democratic Party as New Conservative Party? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2020 #50
We already have centrists, moderates, and yes, even Dems I would consider conservative. klook Dec 2020 #56
The Democratic Party is a big tent party now. Big Blue Marble Dec 2020 #58
No. Schmidt has repeatedly said DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #59
Probably Hav Dec 2020 #63
He can't remake a party. The party is whatever it's members are JI7 Dec 2020 #78
I don't think so MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #132
This is great! We can really use his messaging prowess! scarletwoman Dec 2020 #52
It's about time world wide wally Dec 2020 #53
OK then ToxMarz Dec 2020 #55
That's nice. It also shows why there are a min of 4 potential Left/Right parties in this country. JanMichael Dec 2020 #57
I say, "Welcome aboard Steve". healthnut7 Dec 2020 #61
Steve Schmidt is the best there is on messaging democrank Dec 2020 #62
Welcome aboard, Steve! VA_Jill Dec 2020 #64
This makes me smile Gothmog Dec 2020 #65
COOL! Welcome Aboard, Steve! Cha Dec 2020 #66
I forgive him now Blecht Dec 2020 #67
Welcome to the Party pal! Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #68
Wow, indeed. peggysue2 Dec 2020 #69
He has earned a huge welcome from me pandr32 Dec 2020 #70
I hope he uses his talent to get involved in policy and communication for the Democratic Party. George II Dec 2020 #71
A conservative Republican having a say in Democratic policy? That's desirable? Sympthsical Dec 2020 #74
Read the subject line of the OP. He's not a republican, in fact hasn't been for a couple of years. George II Dec 2020 #76
Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #86
This is VERY big news! I'm sure that many* will find it to be distressing news... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #153
Yes, he called for support for same sex marriage in 2009 JI7 Dec 2020 #82
Yes indeed. In fact, he was three years ahead of the best President in my lifetime, Barack Obama.... George II Dec 2020 #104
He's a Democrat now. Democrats support the goals of the party, otherwise they'd still be betsuni Dec 2020 #107
Interesting melman Dec 2020 #91
As I said, I "don't know, don't care"... George II Dec 2020 #97
So you don't know where he stands on anything melman Dec 2020 #100
Did I say that? He would be a great spokesperson on communicating DEMOCRATIC policy.... George II Dec 2020 #101
+1 -K&R onetexan Dec 2020 #136
At least he joined with both feet and not just while running for office AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #117
Boom! sheshe2 Dec 2020 #121
LOL SunSeeker Dec 2020 #124
Thank you my dear. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #126
Exactly, and no nastiness. nt R B Garr Dec 2020 #123
Yup, since starting the Lincoln Project, Steve has been a loyal ally. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #129
Haaaaa! Bazinga! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #154
+10000. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2020 #164
I am happy to have Steve join the party Gothmog Dec 2020 #142
He's probably been paling around with Democrats. betsuni Dec 2020 #73
He did a pretty good job for us and for the country. Even if we disagree on some things... NNadir Dec 2020 #75
It is neither American nor Christian to nag a repentant sinner. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2020 #79
Excellent point, pretty much what I've been saying ever since The Lincoln Project showed up.... George II Dec 2020 #106
Welcome Steve...good for you. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #80
OK, That's Big News COL Mustard Dec 2020 #84
Yes! NOW I can finally let go of the last of my apprehension. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #89
'The Republican Party was fucking Alderaan. My Pet Orangutan Dec 2020 #90
I hope we will take advantage of his mad communication skills. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #93
As an ex-republican I welcome all who come. GulfCoast66 Dec 2020 #96
Welcome! Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2020 #98
Good! Smart and experienced...always welcomed to our party. BigmanPigman Dec 2020 #102
We are the big tent party! Welcome, SS! nt Ilsa Dec 2020 #105
The real overlooked beauty of this is... Enterstageleft Dec 2020 #108
You bdamomma Dec 2020 #109
How often during the last number of years I have wished he were on our side. ailsagirl Dec 2020 #110
I have been WAITING for this! 3catwoman3 Dec 2020 #112
Sounds like he hangs out here! Nevilledog Dec 2020 #138
Bahahaha BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #113
Yes, we were Adamantly told Cha Dec 2020 #115
Rick Wilson and George Conway will be next. AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #119
Wilson yes but I doubt Conway will grantcart Dec 2020 #139
No, Conway is an ideological Republican. Maybe more Romney type . Can't really see Rick Wilson JI7 Dec 2020 #141
He's on Larry right now superpatriotman Dec 2020 #116
I welcome Steve with open arms AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #118
Dem Party is loaded with smart folk. Always room for more of the same. oasis Dec 2020 #120
This is such an awesome development! Steve is an R B Garr Dec 2020 #122
Welcome Steve! SunSeeker Dec 2020 #125
Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #127
Welcome aboard Steve MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #128
Wish these Republicans would stay in their own Party badboy67 Dec 2020 #130
Well, Cenk Uyger became a Democrat only in 2016. He formed Justice Democrats to pull the Party Left. Budi Dec 2020 #137
Another Grifter like Briahna Joy Grey and Jimmy Dore JI7 Dec 2020 #143
Yup. He's also a multi-millionare Budi Dec 2020 #146
After years convincing his audience that the Democratic Party are wealthy out-of-touch betsuni Dec 2020 #148
The democratic Party is whoever makes up the party. The ones moving things right are those that JI7 Dec 2020 #145
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #147
I'm so happy. I LOVE Steve Schmidt! Greybnk48 Dec 2020 #133
I welcome him. His reasoning makes great sense. nt ooky Dec 2020 #135
I appreciate his serious communication skills. He is articulate & interesting Budi Dec 2020 #140
I love the fact that he gets the name of the party right Gothmog Dec 2020 #144
He mentioned the Whigs moondust Dec 2020 #149
He thinks autocracy began with tRump, I don't trust him! burrowowl Dec 2020 #151
He thinks autocracy began with tRump, I don't trust him! burrowowl Dec 2020 #152
Fabulous! Welcome Steve! Owl Dec 2020 #155
Steve Schmidt has had it with the Banana Republic Party and is defending the Democratic Party Pachamama Dec 2020 #157
hes just trying to stay on a winning team I think TalenaGor Dec 2020 #159
Bravo DeSmet Dec 2020 #162
Welcome!! cp Dec 2020 #163
Thanks but no thanks quakerboy Dec 2020 #165

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
60. In some states - not Arkansas and, I think, not Texas,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:32 PM
Dec 2020

there is a closed primary system. A voter must register as a member of a party in order to vote in that party's primary.

I gather that Schmidt lives in a state in which a voter must declare for a party and has changed his registration to Democrat.

Since I don't have to declare for a party in Arkansas, I will try to bring myself to vote in the Rethuglican primary in two years in order to vote for the lesser of evils for Governor. My only hesitation is that I have to have it on my record that I voted in a Rethuglican primary.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
88. In Georgia we have to declare for the primary
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:21 PM
Dec 2020

If trump or some other real stupid greedy bozo like hime is running in 2024 repug primary, I will switch parties for the primary to try and fend off 4 years of potential hell for our democracy, especially since a dem is going to be running for re-election. I have never done that before but will next time if necessary. Of course, looking back at the circus of clowns in the repug primary last time, it would be hard to find the least worst, they were all so bad.

BComplex

(8,054 posts)
160. Same in North Carolina. I will switch parties to vote against Trump in the primaries.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:11 PM
Dec 2020

I hope every democrat in the country will switch parties to keep trump off the ballot.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
114. It's embarrassing, isn't it.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:11 PM
Dec 2020

I lived in Wichita for many years. I had to be registered as a filthy republicon to vote in the primaries. Since the Democrat had no chance, the only real influence our votes had was to vote against the most-assholish republicons, such as Susan Fucking Wagle.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
158. I forget how many states do not allow for party registration
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

Texas and Arkansas and I know Vermont. The later came up because some were saying that Sanders could not run as a Democratic candidate because he was not a registered Democrat. The problem with that is Vermont does not register by party. In Texas and I suppose Arkansas anyone can vote in a primary. However that marks one as voting in that primary and if there is a runoff in the other party primary you cannot vote.

None of that affects the general election.
This chart lists the 31 states that register party affiliation. That leaves 19 states that don't.

Response to Sucha NastyWoman (Reply #34)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
99. By being so talented with...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:51 PM
Dec 2020

…..his messaging and general political operativeness that he drags the party more and more rightward.

He worships St. Reagan.

And this is the guy who pushed Sarah Palin onto McCain. You know—the woman who Obama said "set the table for Trump."

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
103. Some seem to think Schmidt has superpowers and a diabolical plot to
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:59 PM
Dec 2020

single-handedly take over the Democratic Party.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
4. That is some big news.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:07 PM
Dec 2020

Bookmarked to listen to later.

Steve Schmidt, now a democrat. We need to be a big tent with big welcoming arms.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
5. I guess this means he's formally tossing in the towel on the GOP.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:11 PM
Dec 2020

Can't say I blame him, but it took him long enough to admit there's no way to raise a phoenix from the ashes of the GOP.

My Pet Orangutan

(9,261 posts)
77. The Lincoln Project aimed flamethrowers and napalm at the GOP.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:59 PM
Dec 2020

They are hated - hated, as the worst band of traitors.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
83. For the current iteration of the GOP, they are apostates.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:07 PM
Dec 2020

Traitors too, I suppose, but more like Judas than Snowden.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
24. In deed!! i've been listening to him on MSNBC the past 4 years. He is one smart guy. Sure he was one
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:30 PM
Dec 2020

of them. Now he's made the very deliberate decision to be one of us. I hope his "joining the Force" will inspire others to muster up the courage and join us as well under the Big Tent. We are in the fight of our lives for this country going forward. The extremists have made sure going forward our politics will not be normal and our lives and freedoms as Americans, as a whole have changed. We need all the help we can get and everyone to join us and fight this good fight.

Welcome Steve!! God Bless the USA!!

brush

(53,792 posts)
8. Ok, that's good news. I appreciate how he helped with "The Lincoln Project".
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:13 PM
Dec 2020

Let's hope this works out well for us. His messaging talent will certainly help.

This must be why he reached out to AOC yesterday to join forces. Maybe such an alliance will pull them both away from left and right purity positions to more pragmatic ones which can win in present-day America, because if you can't win you're just wasting everybody's time.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
28. Agree. i do think deep down Schmidt is one of the good eggs of the former GOP. I do believe he will
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:34 PM
Dec 2020

be good for our party. Being a former "insider" for so long i'm sure he knows all their dirty tricks and can help the party craft a winning message going forward to help especially our down ballot candidates. We need to retain both the House and the Senate to get substantive work done.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
72. Is it wierd that I want a weekly youtube stream of the 2 of them cooking stuff,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:52 PM
Dec 2020

playing video games, and having well meaning arguments on politics that ends with consensus positions?

That's not wierd, right?

brush

(53,792 posts)
85. It's weird, but I kinda like it. AOC may have some good, Nuyorican recipes...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:13 PM
Dec 2020

to share. And Schmidt looks like a guy who know his way around a grill. I say try to hook it up, but if it gets to heated, not from the stove or grill mind you, they must agree to retreat to neutral corners as their alliance is sorta on the unnatural side.

I know he's drawn to attractive, outspoken, women pols (see Sarah Palin), as for AOC, I don't know who her type is.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,614 posts)
131. I think so too
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:25 AM
Dec 2020

There were some that were seeing nefarious motives in him reaching out. I thought he was sincere and I hope she responds to him now that he's switched.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
11. Normally, I'd be suspicious, but Schmidt just doesn't seem the type to play Trojan Horse
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:15 PM
Dec 2020

I think it was a difficult move for him to make, but one that he will grow more comfortable with as time goes on.

Bayard

(22,102 posts)
12. BIG asset for us
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:16 PM
Dec 2020

Very smart, very strategic, well-spoken. And he regularly chewed trump up and spit him out.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
13. Wow
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:16 PM
Dec 2020

He's a super eloquent -very- smart guy. I remember hating him anytime he came on tv years ago because he made the Dems he was against look weak.

Welcome to the party. I hope it's a very productive relationship. Work your magic for the benefit of the party.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
25. He will be great for messaging, the biggest weakness in the
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:31 PM
Dec 2020

Dem. party. I’m glad his policy positions have evolved.

KT2000

(20,584 posts)
17. Good for him -
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:23 PM
Dec 2020

This was not easy for him as he has strong emotional ties to the things that were part of his youth and life story. There are many R's hanging on for sentimental reasons. This showed strength of his convictions.

Also - he need not worry about not agreeing with the entirety of the Democratic platform. Democrats do not agree either. It is just the R's that expect total loyalty to all the horrible things they have done ie, children separated from parentsl

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
41. I think some had hope for the Republican Party to come to its senses some day
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:55 PM
Dec 2020

But now understand that it is irretrievable. And will burn itself out soon.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Hey Steve! Welcome aboard!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:25 PM
Dec 2020

Here's what I want you to do, and I know that you'll be good at it: Always be a voice for the ethical morality of public servants. Call out the grifters, who cut corners to pocket tax payer money for themselves.

Deuxcents

(16,248 posts)
19. Sweeet...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:27 PM
Dec 2020

Good news n I hope his LP friends join with him. They made a big difference, I think. He’s a distinguished Vet, smart politically and commands your attention when he speaks. Hire him! This week is getting better and better

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. Perhaps after Trump, we will evolve to a one party center-based Democracy,
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:28 PM
Dec 2020

..with brighter minds negotiating for the best policy outcomes for America's citizens, our foreign policy & our future .
Without the Party of Regan, Gingrich & the old guard Confederate Republican obstructionists who opted to join Trump & sell out to foreign Dictators & global criminal orgs, our Democracy will be now be recognized & accepted as the one true government of the USA.

Republicans have proven to never be trusted again.

Whatever your Party is called, it cannot ever again challenge the basic laws of this nation to the point where our Constitution is stripped away.

The balance is always found in the cetnter.


catbyte

(34,406 posts)
23. Wow. He really has rejected the dark side. He's been sounding more and more like a Democrat
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:29 PM
Dec 2020

within the last year or so. I for one welcome him. If you are incapable of changing your mind then nothing changes.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
27. Howard Schultz
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:32 PM
Dec 2020

Okay Steve, despite the fact you tried to get this clown in the White House, we welcome you. No more side stuff, Capeesh?

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
31. I ❤️ it.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:45 PM
Dec 2020

We are lucky to have him!!!

And bring Nicole and Anna Navarro with you.

We’ve got lots of room.

bucolic_frolic

(43,191 posts)
32. He's a good man, he will teach Democrats to grow some spine
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:47 PM
Dec 2020

Most of all, you can tell from his interviews, he enjoys what he's doing.

He called the 126 House Republicans siding with the Texas lawsuit this week, he called them "Autocrats". The rest of the House GOP are still Republicans to him, he said.

This means that the political middle is reformulating. It was said these last 5-8 years that the middle was hollowed out. Now it's reformulating and will undoubtedly embrace moderate issues from the left and right, progressive issues. The Progressive Era, 1900-1910, was filled even led by business Republicans - National Assoc. Manufacturers, National Civic Federation - and led to the growth of civic groups - Kiwanis, Rotary, even the gardening club movement. Democrats and Main Street America are not incompatible by any means.

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
33. If anything
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:48 PM
Dec 2020

his Lincoln Project was free to do what we couldn't do - really get into the mud and go for the jugular.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
35. Hes always been a democrat
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:49 PM
Dec 2020

Was a trojan horse... the only way to explain Palin!!!

Seriously though I have grown to really like him the past year seeing him frequently on msnbc... he’s passionate and sets Donald Trump on fire like noone else.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
37. I guess I am on the outside-- Schmidt can register all he wants...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:50 PM
Dec 2020

but he will never be a Dem at heart. I do appreciate his efforts at defeating the Trumplicans, though.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
94. I'm with you.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:40 PM
Dec 2020

Sorry, but he should stay and fix his own party rather than joining ours and, I imagine, expecting it to move further to the right to accomodate Republican refugees.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
156. DINOs are better than RINOs
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:01 AM
Dec 2020

As we have seen over the past 12 years, controlling the leadership and committees in Congress is critical. If someone like Joe Manchen is the difference between Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell being Majority Leader, then I'll gladly welcome them. The only way the GOP can be fixed is if they are relegated to a permanent minority.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
39. Watch what they do, not what they say
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:52 PM
Dec 2020

I'll treat him like any other who repents for misdeeds, for misdeeds they were.

Schmidt joined the Bush administration as a Deputy Assistant to the President and Counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 2004, he was a member of the senior strategic planning group, led by White House adviser Karl Rove, that ran President George W. Bush's re-election campaign; Schmidt oversaw the reelection "war room".[19] In 2005 and 2006, he was the White House strategist responsible for the U.S. Supreme Court nominations of Samuel Alito[25] and Chief Justice John Roberts.[19]

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
166. Not to mention the war crimes he defended
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:26 PM
Dec 2020

Naked arab men, beaten and hung from the ceiling while their balls were electrocuted

I am glad I guess there is finally a line he won’t cross but geesh

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
42. Welcome Steve!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:55 PM
Dec 2020

Extremely glad to have you with us!

I am confident that you will feel more and more closely aligned with us as time goes on, and if not, we are big enough and strong enough to consider a dissenting opinion that might make us better.

LakeArenal

(28,821 posts)
43. Wow. I have to say I was wrong about Steve.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 07:55 PM
Dec 2020

I thought for sure he wanted to rebuild the Republican Party with Mitt and some others.

Thank you Steve. I was wrong and will be pleased to have your very direct commentary. Really on par or better than Frank Luntz for sure.

Zipgun

(182 posts)
81. Where Luntz shines is in choosing verbiage. Depressingly effective.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:06 PM
Dec 2020

Read a couple accounts where Luntz is a jerk, so don't really want him. And his weird White House cosplayhouse is really creepy.

LakeArenal

(28,821 posts)
87. Schmidt has shown some very unDemocratic stuff
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

Not the least of which is his promotion of Sarah Palin. Then he went to be campaign mgr for some rich dude.

Said some pretty not nice things about Hillary.

So it was impossible for me to believe he could change. I was wrong.

klook

(12,157 posts)
56. We already have centrists, moderates, and yes, even Dems I would consider conservative.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:25 PM
Dec 2020

There's room for debate on our side of the spectrum. Personally, I listen to the progressive voices more, but moderates and centrists who want to help us WIN for the good of all the people are welcome.

I think Schmidt is conscientious, and I think he will be level headed about his importance as a newcomer, relative to those who've been fighting for progressive causes for decades. If he gets too big for his britches too quickly, I'm sure there are more than a few Democrats who will set him straight.

Big Blue Marble

(5,093 posts)
58. The Democratic Party is a big tent party now.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:28 PM
Dec 2020

There will be a left wing and center wing and many in-between meaning
there will be strong opinions on all sides.

There is one core value that will fuse us as we make common cause, supporting
our democratic republic and the constitutional government.

Re-stabliizing our country is the first and most pressing mission for all of us.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
59. No. Schmidt has repeatedly said
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:29 PM
Dec 2020

he's still a conservative. Dems are a big tent party that has the potential for the more conservative Dems to split off into a center-right party.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
63. Probably
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:33 PM
Dec 2020

How do you think he'd even do that and how would he change the opinions of progressives, for example?
So far, I haven't seen him advocating for Repub policy positions, it's mostly been fighting the Repub party being taken over by fascism which has become even more obvious since the election. Whether he'll enjoy his stay in the party in regards to political issues besides being in opposition to Trumpism is another topic, though.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
52. This is great! We can really use his messaging prowess!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:14 PM
Dec 2020

He's totally correct - that the Democratic party is the only one that stands for American ideals.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
55. OK then
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:23 PM
Dec 2020

But don't teach him the secret handshake just yet. Should be some sort of probationary period.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
57. That's nice. It also shows why there are a min of 4 potential Left/Right parties in this country.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:25 PM
Dec 2020

I really wish we had a parliamentary system. Oh well.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
62. Steve Schmidt is the best there is on messaging
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:32 PM
Dec 2020

I hope he can help us with that. A sincere welcome to Steve Schmidt.

peggysue2

(10,833 posts)
69. Wow, indeed.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:42 PM
Dec 2020

That's a huge leap for someone like Schmidt. And it's a plus for the Democratic Party because Schmidt brings a wealth of experience and knowledge in what works in competitive politicking. I'm thinking messaging savvy in particular.

Welcome aboard, Steve Schmidt.

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
74. A conservative Republican having a say in Democratic policy? That's desirable?
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:53 PM
Dec 2020

Sounds just about right.

Response to George II (Reply #76)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
153. This is VERY big news! I'm sure that many* will find it to be distressing news...
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 08:36 AM
Dec 2020

This is VERY big news! I'm sure that many* will find it to be distressing news... but frankly, I'm delighted to hear it.



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* or at least one that we know of.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
82. Yes, he called for support for same sex marriage in 2009
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:07 PM
Dec 2020

Considering the chances those rights may be lost he should use his skills to advocate for its support across the country.

George II

(67,782 posts)
104. Yes indeed. In fact, he was three years ahead of the best President in my lifetime, Barack Obama....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:03 PM
Dec 2020

....who didn't support same sex marriage until 2012. Funny how some forget that, and accept the fact that some people change but imply that others (Schmidt) don't.

I'm SO glad people don't still hold a grudge against Obama because of his early position on the subject, eh?

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
107. He's a Democrat now. Democrats support the goals of the party, otherwise they'd still be
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:18 PM
Dec 2020

independents, like Schmidt, or something else.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
91. Interesting
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:36 PM
Dec 2020

I asked you the other day on what policies he differs from Republicans?


Your response was don't know, don't care


What have you learned since then that leads you to believe he should be involved in policy for the Democratic Party?

George II

(67,782 posts)
97. As I said, I "don't know, don't care"...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:44 PM
Dec 2020
on what policies he differs from Republicans" I really don't give a crap about Republican policies, so how would I know or care on which of theirs STEVE SCHMIDT differs? Seems straightforward enough, doesn't it?

He's now a Democrat, one of us. Now let's see what policy positions he expresses AS A DEMOCRAT!
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
100. So you don't know where he stands on anything
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:51 PM
Dec 2020

You just think he should have influence on policy.

Okay.

George II

(67,782 posts)
101. Did I say that? He would be a great spokesperson on communicating DEMOCRATIC policy....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:55 PM
Dec 2020

....just like any other Democrat. He's a very talented and articulate communicator.

That's how things work. Kamala Harris differed with Joe Biden on policy early in the year, and now she's supporting and promoting JOE BIDEN'S policy positions, not her own (where the two differ) And from what we've seen so far, she's doing a great job of that and the two will work very well together.

Okay?

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
117. At least he joined with both feet and not just while running for office
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:30 PM
Dec 2020

He is not going back to being an independent after using the party either. He is all in.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
129. Yup, since starting the Lincoln Project, Steve has been a loyal ally.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:23 AM
Dec 2020

Steve formally joining the Democratic Party makes it official.

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
73. He's probably been paling around with Democrats.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:52 PM
Dec 2020

I Googled to see if I could find something about his love life, but instead discovered that people love his house. He has a carving by a Haida First Nations artist in his living room. Pacific Northwest/Northwest Coast art is fantastic.

NNadir

(33,527 posts)
75. He did a pretty good job for us and for the country. Even if we disagree on some things...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 08:58 PM
Dec 2020

...I for one welcome him.

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
79. It is neither American nor Christian to nag a repentant sinner. . .
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:05 PM
Dec 2020

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:05 PM - Edit history (1)

. . .to the grave.

Emphasis on repentant

With that in mind, I welcome him into our ranks.

He'll be speaking with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight.

George II

(67,782 posts)
106. Excellent point, pretty much what I've been saying ever since The Lincoln Project showed up....
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:13 PM
Dec 2020

People change, that's why we have the word "epiphany" in the English Language. Or Biblically, "Repent, and ye shall be saved."

No one is irredeemable - he, Rick Wilson, Tara Setmayer (I love her, not romantically, hehe) and others have shown that they've seen the light.

Perhaps their retractors might want to watch Star Wars?

COL Mustard

(5,906 posts)
84. OK, That's Big News
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:08 PM
Dec 2020

I, as a former Republican, am not there yet. But if people like Steve do it, it makes things easier for people like me.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
89. Yes! NOW I can finally let go of the last of my apprehension.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:24 PM
Dec 2020

He seemed very sincere when he was putting out LP's messages, but I thought he might return to the fold after some GOP housecleaning over the next year or two. Clearly, he thinks that is not possible, whether or not he burned his bridges.

When you consider what hethey did, it was not leveled at the GOP...at least, not the GOP he knew. It was the unholy mob of disciplined and dedicated evil-doers, wild-eyed solvent huffers, and a herd of camp followers and farmyard animals.

This latest action puts things in much sharper focus, and shows that the GOP might be even more far gone than we thought. It may well NOT mean that, but it could.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
96. As an ex-republican I welcome all who come.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 09:43 PM
Dec 2020

Funny, once I started throwing off the lies I believed so much of my life, within a year I was a Social Democrat.

It’s like the scales fell of my eyes.

It’s like a house of cards falling.

And I’m not alone on DU.

Enterstageleft

(3,396 posts)
108. The real overlooked beauty of this is...
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:22 PM
Dec 2020

He helped get a lot of Rupugs elected when he was in their camp.

Steve probably knows about skeletons in closets. connections to foreign assets, huge corporate donors, and billionaires looking for tax breaks.

There is so much he could expose if he truly wants to, that could be devastating to the rePug senators & reps.

GO STEVE...DO YOUR WORST (FOR THEM), BEST FOR US.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
110. How often during the last number of years I have wished he were on our side.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:25 PM
Dec 2020
Now he will be-- he'll be a powerful ally, make no mistake.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
112. I have been WAITING for this!
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:28 PM
Dec 2020

He is absolutely passionate about the US and about democracy, and he is a compelling speaker. His vocabulary and the complexity of his thinking process impress the hell out of me.

I think this is a good thing.

Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
138. Sounds like he hangs out here!
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:42 AM
Dec 2020


Tweet text:
Steve Schmidt
@SteveSchmidtSES
·
Dec 15, 2020
Democratic. It’s the Democratic Party. It’s the oldest in the world. This headline should read “registering Democratic”. It’s an important enough institution in this country that it is entitled to its’ proper name.

The Hill
@thehill
Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announces he's registering Democrat http://hill.cm/KLxs7MX
Image

YS
@NYinLA2121
Damn. You are serious about this.

BannonsLiver

(16,397 posts)
113. Bahahaha
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 10:29 PM
Dec 2020

This can’t be. I was told by people with a bizarre knee jerk, purity hatred for Schmidt he and TLP would immediately turn on Biden.

What happened? Looks like that kooky narrative is falling apart. Sad!

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
119. Rick Wilson and George Conway will be next.
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:36 PM
Dec 2020

Fresh blood and political expertise to defeat the republicans.

This is big -- it is almost like people from the higher echelons of KGB (FSB) defecting to the US.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
141. No, Conway is an ideological Republican. Maybe more Romney type . Can't really see Rick Wilson
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:56 AM
Dec 2020

switching .

Schmidt switching made sense to me because I don't think he was ever much of an ideological Republican but more about the wider generalized things they marketed themselves as . I think on Social issues he is probably like most democrats and on fiscal issues maybe a moderate .

There are many people who vote Democratic just because they hate the extremism of the Republicans. It's why every minority group votes Democratic.

If Republicans were to become social liberals while supporting moderate views on economic policy I think some who regularly vote democratic would vote Republican.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
118. I welcome Steve with open arms
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:34 PM
Dec 2020

He is not joining just for convenience and resources while seeking higher office.

He is committed and all in.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
122. This is such an awesome development! Steve is an
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 11:55 PM
Dec 2020

incredible asset. Looking forward to seeing him in action more.

He earned his welcome over several months during the election with such searing takedowns of Trump and his former party.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

badboy67

(460 posts)
130. Wish these Republicans would stay in their own Party
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:24 AM
Dec 2020

and quit pulling the center of the Democratic Party always to the political right.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
137. Well, Cenk Uyger became a Democrat only in 2016. He formed Justice Democrats to pull the Party Left.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:39 AM
Dec 2020

So there's that bit of info to consider.


WIKI:
Cenk Kadir Uygur is a Turkish-American political commentator, media host, attorney, and journalist. Uygur is the creator of The Young Turks..

As a young man, Uygur supported social conservative positions but as his views changed he began to identify as a progressive.
He is also a co-founder of Justice Democrats.


Political party
Republican (before 2000)[1]
Independent (2000–2016)
Democratic (2016–present)

JI7

(89,252 posts)
143. Another Grifter like Briahna Joy Grey and Jimmy Dore
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:04 AM
Dec 2020

Schmidt actually supported Democrats while Cenk attacks Democrats.

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
148. After years convincing his audience that the Democratic Party are wealthy out-of-touch
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:30 AM
Dec 2020

corporatist establishment elites corrupted by money and power worse than Republicans.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
145. The democratic Party is whoever makes up the party. The ones moving things right are those that
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:09 AM
Dec 2020

attack Democrats .

Right Wing Trash like Tim Canova ran as a democrat while attacking long time liberal democrats .

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
140. I appreciate his serious communication skills. He is articulate & interesting
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:50 AM
Dec 2020
Welcome aboard Mr Schmidt & thank you for your assist with TLP.
Your kind of intellect regarding the US Constitution is a rare thing anymore.

👍

moondust

(19,993 posts)
149. He mentioned the Whigs
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:36 AM
Dec 2020

on The Last Word tonight. I don't recall exactly what his point was but the context was the Republican Party. He gets it.

burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
151. He thinks autocracy began with tRump, I don't trust him!
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:40 AM
Dec 2020

Probably thinks Raygun and Thacher were wonderful benevolent leaders. They weren’t!

burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
152. He thinks autocracy began with tRump, I don't trust him!
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:40 AM
Dec 2020

Probably thinks Raygun and Thacher were wonderful benevolent leaders. They weren’t!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
157. Steve Schmidt has had it with the Banana Republic Party and is defending the Democratic Party
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:36 AM
Dec 2020

Welcome Steve Schmidt to our team!!!

It’s a big tent and we welcome patriots and those that defend the Constitution and the principles of our Nation to make it a strong democracy for all!!!

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
159. hes just trying to stay on a winning team I think
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:06 PM
Dec 2020

Dont want to be the strategist who helped sink the ship....$5 bucks says if republicans win again someday he will move back there...

DeSmet

(257 posts)
162. Bravo
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:08 PM
Dec 2020

This party is one heck of a lot stronger with him on our side than the other side. No more complicated than that.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
165. Thanks but no thanks
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 04:28 PM
Dec 2020

We dont need the guy who advised Cheney, then brought us the Shrub2 rerun, and Alito.

He's not one of us. He's an opportunist, who absolutely can not be trusted.

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