AOC gets vaccinated

[Dem4Life1102]

Link to tweet

[LizBeth]

1. Why? She should fall in the category of young people not yet. Why did she gt one? I dont care she is

a politician and I like the woman, but why? She should not have gotten one. An old politician? Ya. After medical people. The Prez and VP Ya. But not AOC.

[targetpractice]

2. Continuity of government...

And, the congressional physician required it.

[LizBeth]

6. "physician required it". Ok, not on AOC then, but still, bullshit. So fuggin tired of the privileged

as my old ass is unemployed, don't know if money will come out next week, facing getting a customer se3rvice job cause... old, int he winter with a spiked pandemic. Ya, lets get it to AOC.

Bullshit.,

Not talking AOC literally, but privileged.

[NurseJackie]

27. In the tweet it's written to sound as though she's taking-one-for-the-team...

... or making a sacrifice of some sort... and that she made the choice herself. But apparently that's not the case.

I’d *never* ask you to do something I wasn’t willing to do myself.

Really? What an odd statement to make... out of the blue like that.

Do we have reason to believe otherwise? Has it been previously suggested that she would do such a thing? Is that statement meant to separate and differentiate herself from someone else who *would* make vaccination demands, but not get one for themselves? If yes, who? If no, then why phrase it that way?

All I'm trying to say is that it's a very odd tweet, and it wasn't written in a very clear way.

[SMC22307]

61. Of course she's "privileged" - she's a member of fucking Congress.

And fighting for you to get the money you so desperately need.

[LizBeth]

66. Now wait a minute. Early in the week AOC said she would vote against me if she didn't get the 1200

[SMC22307]

87. She and Ayanna Pressley are trying to get you $1200, not $600.

And to keep struggling Americans from being evicted. Provide a link of her specifically saying she would vote no on $600. She posted a Twitter poll about whether $600 was enough, and 95% of the responses were No or Hell No. She also asked her followers (including any Republicans) to reach out to their members of Congress and tell them what amount is too low.

[LizBeth]

90. She stated if the bill Pelosi was working on hit the floor, she did not know she would vote for that

Yes, there are a lot of reasons, having paid attention for months now I am well aware of it and regardless of the reasons, she stated out loud on Monday that she didn't know she could vote for me even though I am on a deadline that is almost over. I have a couple days.

Sanders did it the previous Monday when Pelosi had the momentum coming in that Monday and BOOOM... Sanders has to put out to the nation he would NOT vote for the bill. Then Sanders started working on a stand alone bill for 1200, not a mention or consideration toward UI, or the desperation being on a timeline.

All the other noise stops. Sanders and AOC felt the need to put out the statement and that was talk directly at me.

[SMC22307]

95. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is the problem.

Sanders is well aware of the "desperation of being on a timeline."

“This is not a radical idea. This is an idea that is supported by President Donald Trump. It is an idea that is supported by President-elect Joe Biden,” Sanders said. “The American people cannot wait any longer; they need economic relief right now. ... They need help and they need it now.”

....

Hawley and Sanders, political opposites, emerged as Congress's latest odd couple to push for Congress to pass a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks either as a stand-alone bill or part of a sweeping coronavirus and government funding deal that is still being agreed to by leadership.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) aligned himself with Sanders on Friday.

“The quickest way to get money into the pockets of the American people is too send some of their tax dollars right back where they came from. So let's step up the plate. ... I support Senator Sanders's request fully and hope the Senate will consent,” Schumer said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530913-gop-senator-blocks-bill-for-12k-stimulus-checks-for-second-time

[LizBeth]

98. I am well aware of the issues. I stand with what I have stated. The 1200 is ot on a timeline, the UI

was. Sanders stated he would not vote my deadline UI and as far as I am concerned stopped the momentum that could have gotten it done last week to throw in the battle of the 1200.

I KNOW what happened, where we are, what is being discussed, who and when participated. And Sanders threw me under the bus for his 1200 that is not a deadline. Sanders has done little to nothing for months an two weeks before the deadline he throws in a wrench...

[LizBeth]

92. Btw, Pelosi has been working on it solidly for 6 months, for the people. All of it. She is the one

that has stayed on it and pushed and pushed and pushed. I know what has been going on. Pelosi is thee one that keeps coming to the public to let us know she is still fighting. For months. I appreciate AOC and Pressly joining the fight. I do not appreciate AOC cavalierly telling me my UI is not important enough for her vote.

[SMC22307]

96. AOC is pushing for UI. And survival checks. (n/t)

[LizBeth]

100. Good, glad she is on board, I was addressing what she said Monday.

[TexasTowelie]

116. Ah, a Twitter poll.

I suspect that if she asked if $100,000 was enough there would still be nearly 95% of the responses saying "No."

Not a very meaningful poll considering the audience to AOC's Twitter feed or the general desire of most people to be wealthy.

Might as well ask whether people hope to win the lottery.

[DrToast]

73. Right? People are weird

I demand a Secret Service detail since the President has one! Why is he privileged?!

[LizBeth]

78. You totally got a relevant argument going there. Lolo.

[treestar]

134. I thought we didn't believe that of elected officials

that they should be privileged.

[blueinredohio]

69. Amen!

[BainsBane]

51. She's nowhere in line for the presidency.

And all the politicians must be getting vaccinated then. This kind of privilege is emblematic is a corrupt nation. There aren’t enough vaccines for front line health workers and the most vulnerable, yet priority goes to politicians.

[LizBeth]

56. Thank you. Simple reason. Sending medical people out there in it, and this argument? smh

[JI7]

3. she is member of Congress

[LizBeth]

4. So? She is young, others old or at risk if nothing else out of honor she sh9ould have declined

for someone more worthy. I mean a Rep politician either party... no. I do not buy that one. Anyway just mine, probably but no. Hey being sick is not gonna take down the gov

[NurseJackie]

5. We are in complete agreement.

[LizBeth]

8. Coupe posts above, it is bullshit, but they gotta? Not on AOC. Otherwise she should have said no

thank you. Give it to an old person that has to get a job because there is no UI extension, in the middle of a spiked pandemic in winter.

[Sympthsical]

10. Everyone in Congress is ultimately going to get it

Government is kind of an important thing.

But it's AOC, so I suppose let the grousing fly.

[LizBeth]

13. No.... these people are no more important than I in the scheme of things and well replaceable just

as I am. It is privilege plain and simple. The gov would not be at a loss with a representative sick at home any more than any of our lives. How offensive. And absolutely not about AOC. If there is a rule they have to, then not much they can do but i would be at least a little embarrassed as a healthy young person getting the shot in front of a healthcare worker or an old teacher in risk zones...

I would at least say if I could give mine to someone else, instead a tutorial as if I am a child, stuck in my h0ome, about to be kicked off UI. While they fight in the house. Pelosi anyway. AOC said thinking not voting for the bill....

You pissed me off with the AOC stuff. Wasn't but now that I am thinking about it, ya got there.

[Sympthsical]

15. Kamala Harris is getting the vaccine

She's not in an at risk group and wouldn't ordinarily be first in line for a vaccine.

Maybe we can get a thread complaining about her.

But that won't happen. And there's no use pretending why.

I'm fine with our government leadership getting vaccinated. We need continuance of government. It's kind of a thing in any democracy. They are more important than you in the scheme of things. They're more important than me, too. Just as front line healthcare workers are more important to me. And essential employees. And first responders. There are a lot of people coming before me, and for good cause.

Same with you.

As for the last thing. Yeah, yeah.

[Ms. Toad]

30. Hmm . . . let me think about that.

The only person in the 2nd highest position in the country v. one of 535.

Right. No difference. It's all about picking on AOC.

[sheshe2]

72. Bingo.

Thank you.

[Sympthsical]

76. And yet she is the only one I've seen called out

Weird, right? Never happens here.

[LizBeth]

80. It was a reaction seeing an healthy young adult not front line getting a vacc while isolated at risk

without a job nor seeing my adult kids in over a year or friends and family, alone for the holidays with a spike in covid in the winter.

[sheshe2]

84. How many others have you seen tweet it out?

[Ms. Toad]

88. That wasn't the assertion I was responding to.

Harris and AOC are not similarly situated - so suggesting that they are being treated differently because of Harris isn't AOC is ridiculous. Harris would be treated differently because she is the vice-president elect, and the vice president elect should be at the front of the line for national security reasons. I can't imagine anyone disagrees with that. Many of us would disagree that members of Congress should be at the front of the line merely because of their status as a member of Congress.

[TexasTowelie]

34. In about one month Kamala Harris will be the first-in-line to become president, followed by

Nancy Pelosi. I certainly understand the necessity for both of them to received the vaccine since they are in leadership positions. The need for other Congress members to receive the vaccinations decreases as they move down the seniority list. The only real justification for those members to be vaccinated are that they may become infected and spread the disease.

[LizBeth]

47. Black and 60's? Ya. And Vp is not a 30 yr old representative, don't even try.

[Sympthsical]

79. Not sure how you worked race into that one

And Kamala is 56 years old.

My partner is a senior pharmacy manager for a major hospital chain. I've spent months listening to their meetings and how they prioritize the vaccines. A lot of human hours went into all the considerations about when and what order. It's been debated to death by skilled professionals. Who's most important, who's not. It's one of those calculations they make. Unfortunate, but when you have a limited supply, you start prioritizing.

If it weren't about AOC, I'd be seeing some other names starting to get called out about it from people who don't regularly denigrate the woman for breathing.

So far, same old.

[LizBeth]

83. Black and Harris' age puts her at a higher risk. Facts. I would think you would have herd it in the

discussions. Months of listening. Not even addressing your assumptive accusations. I reacted seeing a healthy y9oung person unnecessarily use up this vacc. It happens

[MrsCoffee]

148. If you don't know how race factors into Covid, you should probably just stop.

You obviously know nothing about Covid... or the continuity of government.

[cwydro]

150. Thank you.

Kamela needs to be protected for that reason, and for the reason she’s is first in line for the presidency. It’s a no-brainer.

AOC should have let someone in need get that vaccine.

[MrsCoffee]

147. Ffs.

I’m gonna pretend I didn’t read this kind of stupid shit here.

[Mariana]

46. She's following the wishes of Speaker Pelosi.

I guess sometimes, that's the wrong thing to do.

[treestar]

136. If they are all getting it we will hear from them too most likely

They are going to do the same thing.

[JI7]

11. She could still spread it to others and risk their health

[LizBeth]

44. Over 50 vaccinated, under, wear mask, 6ft, wash hands, isolate like the rest of us, to ensure the

health of others as well as our own. Nope, doesn't work. Just an opinion but nope.

[cwydro]

12. I agree.

A healthy 30 something?

Not impressed.

[Sympthsical]

19. All of Congress is getting it

And they're certainly not all in a high risk group.

AOC is trying to encourage confidence in a vaccine, and she gets heat over that as well?

This woman literally can do no right, it seems. Tiresome.

[notinkansas]

67. That's exactly right.

She and the rest of Congress are all being vaccinated. She hasn't been singled out for special treatment. And her statement was clearly to promote confidence in the vaccine. That was a good thing to do on her part.

There are plenty of things to complain about in the situation this country is in. This isn't one of them.

[cwydro]

99. Pfft.

Not buying it.

[Sympthsical]

104. So Speaker Pelosi is wrong in your eyes?

She asked House members to get it ASAP.

[cwydro]

111. Pelosi has to get it because of age.

And she’s doing the right thing in what she’s saying.

However, a young woman like AOC could defer that dose to someone who needs it more.

Come on now.

[Mariana]

42. She's a healthy 30 something who works with a bunch of old people.

Also, Speaker Pelosi urged members to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

[LizBeth]

48. So it is an urge, not a tell, and as soon as possible, not before ALL. Is what I am hearing. Hm.

[Mariana]

57. "As soon as possible" means, you know, as soon as possible.

It was possible for her to get vaccinated today, so she did it today, just as the Speaker requested. Unless you think Speaker Pelosi was playing word games, or speaking in code?

[LizBeth]

64. Ya, an old person or a medical person or an at risk person puts the soon as possible, behind them.

My opinion. If one of the youngers had stood up and said, there are people in need, I am not one. I will mask, separate, wash hands and isolate to do all I can to not get infect or infect another but the right thing.... The right, ethical moral thing is for the shot to be given to front line. I cannot do it; give it to front line.

This moment hit me and not at all about AOC but an inherent self importance I do not respect is all. From what I understand AOC is far from the only. But see, I sit here being kicked off UI t 60 with only ciust0omer service high risk jobs available in the winter with a spike pande3mic and it pissed me off a tad at the cavalier indifference or unaware. is all. Privilege. While the fight continues if I tread or drown. AOC was one to say she would vote for me to drown if all didn't get 1200. People re gonna talk.

[cwydro]

97. Yup.

Loving the rationale I’m seeing here.

Guess we’re all good with Gym and Gaetz getting it too?

[LizBeth]

101. Rubio was getting fried on my FB, was gonna copy and paste but not the issue. It caused a reaction

seeing a young healthy body getting the vaccine, that is all. My young people were raised as such, they KNOW they are in back of the line as they should be. I do not know why people do not get, isolated 9 months, fiscally fearful, without a job and adult kids can't visit, for me to see the young person front in line caused me to react. Got pissed. Lol.

[cwydro]

112. I hear ya.

[LizBeth]

117. +1. Thanks

[lame54]

20. For every bigwig who gets to the front of the line...

They should bring a group from the end of the line

[AmericanCanuck]

21. +1000

[dsc]

36. She works around dozens of people who are over 65

147 US Reps are over 65 in 2018 I am not sure how much change occurred after that.

[LizBeth]

50. And the dozens will get shots, she can Mask p, 6ft, wash hands, isolate like the rest of us.

[chowder66]

93. I personally want my elected leaders to be vaccinated asap.

I want them fighting for democracy and against Trump. I want them healthy enough to vote on bills and legislation. I want them to calm the fears of their constituents who are afraid of getting the vaccine. I want them healthy.

I DON'T want AOC to remain unvaccinated with McConnell and his ilk who will be vaccinated running around without their masks trying to get our Democratic Reps sick. It is NOT known if you can still spread the virus if you have gotten the vaccine.

[sweetloukillbot]

39. Yeah! Fuck our leadership!

Who cares if they die!

[LizBeth]

52. Seriously. Check a 30 yr olds risk, with masking up, separating, isolating, in death #'s.

Let me know where she is on .... risk, for death.

[GoCubsGo]

114. What about 30 year olds who are surrounded by irresponsible Republicans?

They're trying to get things like COVID relief passed, among other things, while being forced to work around these assholes who frequently attend White House and other superspreader events. Look at the number of Republicans who have been testing positive. If the Dems have to work with these fuckers, they should ALL be vaccinated. I don't care how old they are.

[Mariana]

41. Speaker Pelosi encouraged members to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had both said in statements on Thursday that they would receive the COVID-19 vaccine in the coming days, and encouraged other lawmakers to be vaccinated as soon as possible. The U.S. Capitol attending physician has announced representatives and senators are eligible to receive a shot, and said that "there is no reason why [members of Congress] should defer receiving this vaccine."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-pelosi-mcconell/

[R B Garr]

125. Yeah, I thought the young people were supposed to let others go first, especially

someone like her who surely puts her constituents like healthcare workers first. This seems privileged, which is surprising considering her admonishments of other politicians.

[LizBeth]

129. Right?

[NurseJackie]

7. I'm being *asked* to wait-my-turn. And that's no telling how long that will be.

[Skittles]

33. I really wanted to see all workers dealing with Covid patients getting it first

seriously, THAT should be a given

[Hortensis]

45. Me too, Jackie. But many people listen to her, and while millions say

they won't get vaccinated, she has a big duty to do what she can to turn that crisis. Leaders are supposed to lead.

So imo, a very proper action, and I'll even give her a gold sticker for doing it without smearing Democrats. (She didn't, did she?)

[Mariana]

60. Speaker Pelosi *asked* House members to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

It was possible for them today.

[NurseJackie]

62. Yes I know. That's why the tweet was so bizarre.

[BannonsLiver]

144. I'm in the same boat

And I have a feeling the wait will likely be longer than 12 months at this pace. It’s barely a trickle, if that. You can just tell it’s going to be painfully slow. When the vaccine was approved I envisioned mass drive in inoculation centers like with the testing. Now that, or the equivalent seem like a fantasy. Hopefully having competent people in our govt will help.

[LizBeth]

158. Ah, in a month Biden is getting in, i think he has it already sit to go, and I think we will see an

huge shift in getting it done and done right, and done productively, a guess.

[TexasTowelie]

9. I need to wash my footwear. nt

[George II]

14. Darn you!!

[TexasTowelie]

17. I get to wait twice as long these days since I only have one foot. nt

[NurseJackie]

68. Haaaaa!

[ehrnst]

103. Well I'm smelling something, that's for sure.

[AmericanCanuck]

16. Dozens of members of congress got it

only one tweeted

[demmiblue]

22. More of them SHOULD tweet about it.

Normalizing the vaccine is a good thing.

[AmericanCanuck]

26. If you think this is about normalizing the vaccine, you would be wrong

[NurseJackie]

28. I agree.

[demmiblue]

29. Nah, I am right. n/t

[SMC22307]

77. So what's it about? (n/t)

[Dem4Life1102]

25. More than one

Link to tweet

[AmericanCanuck]

31. AOC is not the speaker -- doesn't have the same stature

Nancy Pelosi is in the top 5 most important people.

[Dem4Life1102]

35. No argument there

But was just pointing out that more than one person tweeted about it.

[AmericanCanuck]

37. But no one started an OP on Nancy's tweet

Only one person's tweets get turned into OPs and it is quite transparent

[Dem4Life1102]

40. So?

No one said someone could not have started an op on Pelosi’s tweet. Anyone is free to do so.

[demmiblue]

43. I can't believe AC didn't start a thread highlighting "Nancy's" tweet.

How irresponsible, given that she is "in the top 5 most important people."

I wonder why he didn't. It is truly mind-boggling.

[LanternWaste]

107. Sure we're free to. No one's argued otherwise. But as no one perceives Pelosi as a sacred cow...

there's no real compelling reason to do as much.

But, we're all Democrats here, and we're all happy Biden was elected and illustrated the wisdom to choose a former primary opponent as a running mate. We'll be good in January.

[Dem4Life1102]

109. Agreed

[SMC22307]

49. Jesus, just how sour are those grapes?

And what EXACTLY is "transparent" about a member of Congress voicing confidence in a vaccine that many Americans have doubts about?

No one is stopping you from posting about Pelosi, or Beto for that matter. Have at it.

[melman]

86. "Only one person's tweets get turned into OPs"

Not true.

I've recently started threads based on tweets by Ayanna Pressley, Cori Bush, Jamaal Bowman and John Delaney. Thing is, those threads get ignored and slip off the first page. Meanwhile the AOC threads...well we know what happens to those.

[LanternWaste]

108. They get bumped consistently by their authors?

"well we know what happens to those..."

They get bumped consistently by their authors?

[melman]

113. No

No, that's not it at all.

[George II]

138. OPs get bumped by many members here, that's common. But....

...generally the author of the OP thanks others for bumping them.

VERY interesting, don't you think?

[ehrnst]

149. You don't say?

[ehrnst]

118. Imagine seeing you here.

Moving on?

[AmericanCanuck]

127. Are you seeing double?

:shrugs:

[R B Garr]

120. Actually what we know is that Bernie lost twice and AOC

is one of the only remaining holdovers from that time. Everyone else moved on just fine with Biden.

[AmericanCanuck]

123. I was responding to Dem4Life1102 making OPs out of AOC tweets

Funny you had to defend your OPs.

[PTWB]

91. AOC has nearly 11 million followers on Twitter alone.

She’s got a huge megaphone. There’s no way to spin a public vaccination by a wildly popular Democratic representative into a bad thing.

[AmericanCanuck]

124. lol

[George II]

135. There are only about 700,000 people in her District....

By the way, Twitter is a global platform - it includes people from all over the world. I don't know why, but just today I got two new followers from Saudi Arabia of my measly 300 followers. Of course I blocked them.

Followers do not translate into constituents, Democrats, or even Americans.

Incidentally, about 87% of the contributions to her campaign came from outside the 14th District - indeed from outside New York State.

[PTWB]

139. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.

Are you under the impression that the post you were replying to has anything to do with the number of constituents in AOC's district? It doesn't.

AOC's district consists of, as you said, around 700,000 people. She has 10.9 million twitter followers (a very large reach indeed). She did a great service by broadcasting her message of vaccine safety to those followers.

I can't help but notice you posted an OP sharing a tweet from Speaker Pelosi in which she publicized her own experience taking the vaccine. Thank you for doing that! I'm proud of Speaker Pelosi for doing so and leading by example. Her district also has 700,000 people--it's just slightly smaller than AOC's district, but she broadcast the message to her 6.1 million followers because she, like AOC, has a very loud megaphone to broadcast her message.

Incidentally, about 78% of the contributions to Speaker Pelosi's campaign came from outside the 12th District of California and 66% from outside of the state of California.

This isn't an attack on Pelosi, I think she's the most effective speaker we've had in many years. I'm merely using your own line of reasoning to show that wildly popular politicians, like Speaker Pelosi and AOC, tend to garner significant support from outside their districts.

Promoting vaccine safety in the face of all the misinformation is critically important. This isn't a progressive vs moderate issue or an up-and-comer vs seasoned leader issue. This is a public health issue. There is plenty of room to heap praise upon all of our Democratic superstars.

[George II]

140. Many people equate "followers" to popularity or voters. The fact is, as I said....

....Twitter is a global platform. There are millions of Twitterers who are not Americans or live in the US. Even Bob Mueller, in his final report to Congress, pointed out that social media has been used by non-Americans to influence American elections.

Take that any way you want.

[PTWB]

141. Is this a global pandemic? Does anti-vax misinformation stop at our shores?

I have no idea what percentage of Speaker Pelosi's 6.1 million followers, or AOC's 10.9 million followers, are not American. It doesn't matter one iota. They're both doing a great service by promoting vaccine safety to those followers. You thought it important enough to start your own OP about Speaker Pelosi's tweet (and I thanked you for that OP).

There is plenty of praise to go around. Combating anti-vax misinformation should not be a controversial issue.

[George II]

142. What????

[PTWB]

143. Yes?

[demmiblue]

32. +1

[PTWB]

89. AOC has a massive following.

She’s doing such a great service! We need more public figures to get vaccinated publicly to tamp out some of the anti-vax misinformation that floats around on Facebook and other online communities.

[AmericanCanuck]

126. Twitter following is not real following

Trump has 8 times more twitter followers -- look where it got him.

[PTWB]

133. LOL! Contortionists would proud of that stretch.

We can all thank AOC and Nancy Pelosi for publicizing their personal vaccination experiences. Combating the anti-vax misinformation is a group effort and must be applauded.

Thank you AOC! Thank you Speaker Pelosi!

[BainsBane]

153. So much for equality.

[George II]

18. So 430 Representatives and 100 Senators got their vaccination. That's going to be a LOT....

....tweets and OPs!

I haven't seen anything from my Congressman or two Senators yet. Drat!

[AmericanCanuck]

23. Doesn't work that way

Only one person's tweets deserve to be OPs .. sometimes 3-4 OPs on the same tweet.

[Hortensis]

24. Good leadership! She hasn't tweeted yet about how Democrats will be

hitting the ground running in the battle to stop climate change, but no doubt she's very excited at the executive branch team her team in congress will have to work with.

[dsc]

38. She works around dozens of senior citizens

I am OK with her getting it in the first wave, regardless of her age.

[ornotna]

53. Oy!

Quit chumming the waters.

[liskddksil]

54. Is there anything people on this board won't attack AOC for? This thread is an embarassment nt

[bigtree]

55. no

...good for her following physician's advice.

[SMC22307]

58. Agree. The pettiness is off the charts (n/t)

[targetpractice]

59. I agree... This thread is ridiculous.... I feel dumber for posting in it. n/t

[demmiblue]

65. No.

Strangely, people from other countries and those who consider themselves feminists are among the majority of attackers.

Hmm...

[LizBeth]

70. Most of the time I am on AOC side and enjoy her. So no.

[ornotna]

71. Rather sad, ain't it. n/t

[KG]

74. I lulz every time

the butt-hurt is amazing to watch.

[notinkansas]

75. Indeed it is.

Except for those defending her.

[Hortensis]

81. Why don't you change the subject? She's passionate about climate.

She hasn't spoken out on what our new administration is planning yet that I can see, but must be every bit as thrilled and encouraged as all our major environmental/climate groups are. "Visionary leaders" and "inauguration day can't come soon enough -- we're ready to get to work." Perhaps you have something to add on that?

Here's are some LCV statements on what they call the

BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION’S DREAM TEAM OF CLIMATE CHAMPIONS

“As we often say at LCV, elections have consequences, and President-elect Joe Biden’s dream team of climate champions makes that abundantly clear. These visionary leaders will ensure that the Biden-Harris administration fights hard every single day for the health of all communities and centers bold climate action in racial justice and equity. We know personnel is policy, and we are thrilled to work with this historic administration that better reflects our diversity to address the interwoven climate, racial, economic, and health crises with a whole-of-government approach and build a safer and healthier planet for our future generations. Inauguration Day can’t come soon enough — we’re ready to get to work.”

“Joe Biden has nominated a team of climate change-makers who will deliver on his promise to tackle the climate crisis. By nominating these leaders, President Elect Biden and Vice President Elect Harris are signaling to the world that the United States is serious about expanding clean energy and reducing the carbon pollution that drives climate change and serious about leading by example. Clean energy, climate change, justice and protecting our health are central to the Biden plan to rebuild our economy.”

In case you missed it, here are LCV’s statements on recent appointments:

Interior: Deb Haaland
EPA: Michael Regan
CEQ: Brenda Mallory
White House Climate Policy Roles: Gina McCarthy and Ali Zaidi
Energy: Jennifer Granholm
Transportation: Pete Buttigieg
Special Envoy for Climate: John Kerry
Economic Team: Janet Yellen and Brian Deese

https://www.lcv.org/article/lcv-statement-on-biden-harris-administrations-dream-team-of-climate-champions/

[Mariana]

94. Hijacking a thread is rude and disrespectful to the OP. nt.

[Hortensis]

145. She should and did lead by example. Why fight that ad nauseum

instead of directing the thread to something Ocasio is passionately concerned with? Aren't you?

Global warming! Enormous crisis for the entire human race. Every other crisis is now a subset of planetary global warming, including this current pandemic. Maybe Ocasio needs you to tell her what's important to you. What is?

[ms liberty]

82. Yes, they should be embarrassed. Childish, petty, and painfully obvious. n/t

[Luciferous]

85. Agree

[Hassin Bin Sober]

110. The usuals. AOC will be around long after they are gone.

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[R B Garr]

122. LOL, is this projection? The majority of us are Ridin with Biden, so don't worry

your little head about us.

https://gifs.com/gif/joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-ride-off-in-his-corvette-jZrQEW

[LizBeth]

130. I saw it as a slight ageist joke... All us oldies gonna die off, so meh.

[AmericanCanuck]

128. Will be "aground?"

[Mariana]

121. You just know if she had declined to take the vaccine

the squawking would be just as loud and just as ridiculous, no matter what reason she gave for it.

[Autumn]

131. That would make her an anti vaxer and she would have been trashed resoundingly for declining.

She has been tainted and as such that woman is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

146. Sad but true. Pelosi, McConnell receive coronavirus vaccine from the Capitol's top doctor

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) received coronavirus vaccinations Friday, administered by the Capitol’s leading doctor as part of a plan he said is designed to preserve continuity of government.

Pelosi, 80, received a shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine from Brian Monahan, the attending physician of the U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court.

Pelosi’s vaccination, viewed by the media, came just hours after Vice President Pence received a dose at the White House complex on live television in a bid to build public confidence in the safety of coronavirus vaccines.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/coronavirus-congress-vaccine-supreme-court/2020/12/17/ad7a8446-40bc-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html

In politics, Moderate Extremism is not a contradiction in terms.

[GoCubsGo]

102. I don't have a problem with members of Congress getting the vaccine early.

I DO have an issue with them getting it before the President-Elect and his wife, who are both over 65. They should be getting it today, as well.

[Skya Rhen]

105. This!!!!! A million times - this!!!!!!!

[FakeNoose]

106. I'm in line behind 118,500,000 Americans

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I won't get vaccine until a year from now, or maybe longer.
And yet ... I've been paying taxes for longer than she's been alive.

[aidbo]

119. How messed up does your brain need to be that you see this tweet as a bad thing?

[Celerity]

137. +1000

[lapucelle]

155. Where did you read that they were required by law to get vaccinated?

From Speaker Pelosi's press release:

According to government continuity guidelines, Congressional Leadership has been informed by the Office of the Attending Physician that Members of the House and Senate are eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine. The Attending Physician further stated to Members ‘My recommendation to you is absolutely unequivocal: there is no reason why you should defer receiving this vaccine.’ With confidence in the vaccine and at the direction of the Attending Physician, I plan to receive the vaccine in the next few days.

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/121720-1

[Dem4Life1102]

165. You're right

I was mistaken. It is a national security policy called Continuity of Government.

[TexasTowelie]

156. What law are you referring to?

I don't recall any law signed by President Trump to this effect and I've read articles that indicate at least one Congressman (Ken Buck) is refusing the vaccination.

[lapucelle]

157. There is no law, only guidance & a recommendation via Congress's Office of the Attending Physician.

I'm not sure why anyone is couching this as a statutory requirement.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-usa-capitolhill/members-of-congress-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-in-first-round-physician-says-idUSKBN28S0BM

[Mariana]

154. Be angry at Speaker Pelosi too, then.

She said all members should get vaccinated as soon as possible. It was possible yesterday.

[LizBeth]

161. That kinda what we are saying, that would be the expected. But would be nice to hear young people

the younger people saying not needed, that needs to go elsewhere, they are good. They will mask, stay 6ft, wash hands, isolate as all of us have been doing for 9 months so an old person could have it.

I would have felt good. And I know this cause I taught my kids this, as my parents taught me. I guess you see it or you do not. Not the end of the world. Just a reaction to seeing a young person using one of the shits, or an ultra rich person just cause the can.

[Mariana]

166. I think if she had refused to do what the Speaker asked and declined to take it

she would have been criticized just as much, as being anti-vax and feeding the conspiracy bullshit that the vaccine is bad. You might not have done that, but you know there are plenty of people who would.

[LizBeth]

167. I disagree. Words matter, truly. Lol. AOC certainly knows how to use her words too.

What I enjoy most about her.

[LizBeth]

160. It is really hard to watch a young healthy person in a job that allows them to protect themselves

anyways (zooming from home) ... I mean, me working in an hotel is a lot different being able to protect my old body, at a minimum wage job that I had to leave, about losing UI with only customer service jobs available, being told AOC first. At least give it to HC workers or retirement homes....

Yes, there is a reactive quality to seeing a young healthy privilege person getting the vaccination as I sit here and wonder if my ui (247 a week) will be extended another week or two or 10.

And for people to dismiss my feelings as merely hating a privilege person that is suppose to have her eye out for, wait for it, me. I reacted and then even in trying to communicate the initial reaction, it was as if people didn't care about our fear or desperation, only AOC. Hm. Lol. Liberal that we are. Pelosi has our back, but that is ironically funny.

[R B Garr]

162. Well said! AOC is decades younger than Pelosi et al

and we all know the experts have been saying older people first. She still could have been informational while letting others go first, especially since her brand is supposedly about holding others accountable to certain standards.

I saw those posts you mentioned. The younger folks should put older folks first, especially health care workers and those who have to show up and work with the public.

[LizBeth]

163. Right?

Just the way we use to do things, was an expectation. Yes.

[scipan]

164. That's wrong. They don't *know* that it will protect

those around you. But there is every reason to think it will. The antibodies created via the vaccine kill the virus. You may still have a low amount. A low amount also means you are less/ not contagious. They are just being super conservative in what they say because it hasn't been scientifically proven yet.

I'm old but healthy. I would prefer the people most likely to be hospitalized/ have severe covid be the first; our hospitals are crowded and some are overwhelmed. But I have no problem with AOC being vacced before me because 1) she is more important than me, and 2) we're talking about only 538 people. There are many more than that ahead of me and it's a drop in the bucket.

[lunasun]

159. She also made an appeal to people with Q&A on insta. Persuasive info she tweeted will help

the undecided-like the info that older adults had less side effects .
That’s a group with high covid risk that shouldn’t blow off vaccination and might due to a lot of “alternative fact lovers” in that age group .
The downers here will say Oh that is dumb who is that old on insta? Maybe one of thier family or a coworker can show them the info to help them decide to vaccinate if at risk .
So many must be participating if it’s going to help stop the spread and empty the ICUs

https://t.co/VLQElcBTX9?amp=1

*Additionally I want to add that after I logged in to DU to rec and reply this post thread looks completely different due to my highly refined ignore list
Just a side brag on my skills 😌