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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 06:59 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

Asked my Trump-voting Dad if he was watching events in DC today.

I was factual, and did not provoke with my opinion: "National Guard coming to clear the Capitol of Trump Supporters."

His Response: "Not as bad as all of your friends last summer burning down everything."

Now I feel like I've failed as a son. How could I let him get so brainwashed? It is a sad day in America, and it should have been a happy one. Everything Trump touches dies, and he touched our Democracy.

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Asked my Trump-voting Dad if he was watching events in DC today. (Original post)	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	OP
I'm sorry.	MontanaMama	Jan 2021	#1
Thanks. Today is just heartbreaking.	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	#6
I keep trying with a few people in my life too.	MontanaMama	Jan 2021	#10
You haven't failed. Your dad has.	634-5789	Jan 2021	#2
I'm sorry... Parents can be such problems to raise!!!	Karadeniz	Jan 2021	#3
+1	AmyStrange	Jan 2021	#15
He's just being defensive, he knows it's horrible. He'll eventually	BusyBeingBest	Jan 2021	#4
Thanks, that's a good perspective.	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	#8
It's going to be a touchy topic for a while, let him resolve his	BusyBeingBest	Jan 2021	#13
It's not your fault. He's brainwashed.	yardwork	Jan 2021	#5
Movie: "The Brainwashing Of My Dad" (2015)	badboy67	Jan 2021	#7
I saw it when it was made, and didn't take action.	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	#12
From one child of a brainwashed father to another...	The Genealogist	Jan 2021	#9
Your dad has failed you. No offense but fuck that guy.	TeamPooka	Jan 2021	#11
Proud shits and Boogalowlifes burned them down	fearnobush	Jan 2021	#14
There is evidence that it was Boogalowlifes ...	jimlup	Jan 2021	#16
Maybe. Riots and looting are global reactions to oppression.	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	#19
The big difference is our protests are about killer cops and theirs is	GemDigger	Jan 2021	#17
My conversation with my mom just now was similar.	irisblue	Jan 2021	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	Books_Tea_Alone	Jan 2021	#20
I've seen it. It didn't make me feel any better.	maxsolomon	Jan 2021	#21
Luckily my Nixonite parents aren't here to see this	oro	Jan 2021	#22

Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:00 PM

MontanaMama (18,133 posts)

1. I'm sorry.

That has to hurt. I don’t think we can retrieve these people.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:02 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

6. Thanks. Today is just heartbreaking.

I shouldn't have texted him at all.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:04 PM

MontanaMama (18,133 posts)

10. I keep trying with a few people in my life too.

I always regret it. It’s hard to write off people you love. Today is terrible.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:01 PM

634-5789 (2,883 posts)

2. You haven't failed. Your dad has.

He's been brainwashed, along with 74 million others. It's in my family too, but I refuse to speak to them. That's the cure.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:01 PM

Karadeniz (14,026 posts)

3. I'm sorry... Parents can be such problems to raise!!!

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:07 PM

AmyStrange (7,989 posts)

15. +1

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:01 PM

BusyBeingBest (5,017 posts)

4. He's just being defensive, he knows it's horrible. He'll eventually

come around mentally and emotionally, but he may never be able to admit TO YOU that he was misguided. As long as he can admit it to himself, that's the important thing.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:03 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

8. Thanks, that's a good perspective.

He did apologize for saying "my friends".

I don't even think anything was burned down in Seattle.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:05 PM

BusyBeingBest (5,017 posts)

13. It's going to be a touchy topic for a while, let him resolve his

feelings and save some face.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:01 PM

yardwork (53,197 posts)

5. It's not your fault. He's brainwashed.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:03 PM

badboy67 (460 posts)

7. Movie: "The Brainwashing Of My Dad" (2015)

The truth behind the right-wing media machine that changed a father — and divided the nation

https://www.thebrainwashingofmydad.com

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:05 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

12. I saw it when it was made, and didn't take action.

In that movie, the only thing that lets the filmmaker take action is her dad's senility. Mine isn't senile, and he's 2000 miles away.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:04 PM

The Genealogist (4,723 posts)

9. From one child of a brainwashed father to another...

you can't be his babysitter. My father died years ago, but not before about a solid decade and a half of Rush Limbaugh & Co brainwashing. I remember when he would listen to music on the radio. He rarely listened to anything but right wing propaganda from 1990 on. I'd imagine if he were alive today, he'd either have supported this awfulness, or at least absolved them with the holy water of whataboutism.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:05 PM

TeamPooka (20,114 posts)

11. Your dad has failed you. No offense but fuck that guy.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:06 PM

fearnobush (3,960 posts)

14. Proud shits and Boogalowlifes burned them down

And BLM was blamed for it

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:10 PM

jimlup (7,836 posts)

16. There is evidence that it was Boogalowlifes ...

I have not heard it myself but I know that it is being investigated. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the news stream. Particularly on riechwing media.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:18 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

19. Maybe. Riots and looting are global reactions to oppression.

The looting here in Seattle was not false-flag looting. It was opportunistic and organized.

But, even with the CHOP Occupation, no one burned anything down - that I know of. And the PBs definitely came up from PDX to provoke.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:12 PM

GemDigger (4,279 posts)

17. The big difference is our protests are about killer cops and theirs is

because their guy didn't get enough votes. They were shitty when they won and they are even more horrid now when slapped with reality of a loss.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:15 PM

irisblue (26,973 posts)

18. My conversation with my mom just now was similar.

I am so sad

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:29 PM

maxsolomon (25,815 posts)

21. I've seen it. It didn't make me feel any better.

Only the Dad's Senility made his un-brainwashing possible. They told him his radio broke and was stuck on NPR.

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Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:34 PM

oro (88 posts)

22. Luckily my Nixonite parents aren't here to see this

but if they were and were for Trump I'd cut ties. If you can read and write you know racism when you see and hear it. There are many people whose fear of a diverse America outweighs any principles or self-refliction they may or may not possess to begin with. I don't feel sad about people who'd support an insane fascist like Trump.

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