Seth Abramson brilliantly breaks down 45's speech encouraging sedition.

[nolabear]

It’s long. It’s absolutely worth it.

Link to tweet

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[QED]

1. Here's the thread roll...200 tweets in this epic thread...

https://threader.app/thread/1347908845281095680

[nolabear]

4. Thank you!

[Brother Buzz]

18. Boy Howdy, that needs to read into the public record during the impeachment hearings...

that, I guess, start on Monday.

[sagesnow]

2. Chilling but excellent analysis from Seth Abramson

Great breakdown of tRump's Incitement to Riot Speech by Seth Abramson.

[UpInArms]

3. Read it all

Meticulously detailing trump’s incitement of insurrection

[Disaffected]

5. Seems to me that he's reading

far too much into this. Trump has neither the intellect or the desire to be so nuanced. It makes little sense IMO to try to make such detailed sense of what is simply a typical Trump ramble and rant salad.

Certainly there is incitement of insurrection and other criminality in that "speech" but it goes little of substance beyond that.

[soothsayer]

10. I often think back to Laurie Anderson's observations on this in 2016

Here’s a snip:

Anderson: I don’t know. It’s difficult. You want to be really clear who you’re talking to in something like that. So William Burroughs for example invented a very good way of using the word “you.” The word “you” meant you people in the audience, you Americans, you … He would speak to those people. And you would know who “you” was. Not many people are skilled at that. Don Trump is very skilled at that. That’s why he’s doing so well. He speaks right to those people. He’s not in the third-person kind of thing that Hillary, and Bernie too, are doing. They’re not going for the gut response. Don is.

Part of that is because it’s a demagogic thing to do. “You should do this.” “I will make you great.” It’s very personal. “You’re going to be great again. You used to be great, but now you’re going to be great again.” You’re like, this is such horseshit, you know? But he’s got a whole messianic thing going on. He’s good. He’s good. He’s really good. He understands language really well. As soon as he decided Marco was “Little Marco,” Little Marco was dead. He would never be just Marco, he’d be Little Marco, and that word “little” would be ringing in the back of everybody’s mind. “Lyin’ Ted,” same thing. Now he’s gonna go after Hillary. I think she’s a capable person. She’d probably do a pretty good job as a corporate president, but how exciting is that for people? Not very. I voted for her, by the way. I went in to vote for Bernie, and I just … I voted for Hillary because I want a woman president. It’s as simple as that. I just want a woman president.

On edit: here’s the link

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/06/laurie-anderson-qa-hamilton-trump-hillary/485054/

[nolabear]

12. Agreed. He's canny and singleminded.

[soothsayer]

14. Wasn't he a devotee of hitler's speeches? I think he absorbed it

I mean we see through him but SOMETHING works on the great unwashed.

I was mad at Ms. Anderson when I read it (isn’t that dumb?), but she was telling it the way it is.

[QED]

22. Ivana said he kept Hitler's speeches by his bedside.

That's Ivana, wife #1, not his daughter-wife.

[soothsayer]

25. Yeah I thought so

[Disaffected]

17. Trump is good at manipulating gullible and ignorant people alright

and, he pushes all the MAGAT buttons, but I'm not so sure it goes much beyond that.

And of course, he has learned the lessons of "the big lie".

[soothsayer]

19. That's basically all that's happening in that speech

It’s shorthand understood by magats. Really scary manipulative shorthand.

[Disaffected]

20. Yes, it's been likened to

mob parlance and rightfully so.

[triron]

23. Yeah that's what the Germans thought for awhile too.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. Agree completely. It's tRump's typical disjointed word salad, jumping from one thought to the .

next. He's a mess speech wise. Always the same crap with him, fake news/lamestream media/Democrats/fraud....

[Chainfire]

29. That is what I was thinking as I read the piece.

Trump shoots from the hip. He is not know to be a masterful planner or thinker.

I also agree that the speech was a "call to arms" and incitement to undo a great injustice. (Trump being soundly defeated by the voters)

[in2herbs]

6. At # 147 on the threadroll Gosar and Biggs are mentioned as helping coordinate the

riot with Ali Alexander. I hope that Garland pays attention to this and makes sure they are prosecuted. Those two guys are crazier than a fruitcake -- even Gosar's family thinks he's crazy.

In all honesty that part of Az is filled with crazies.

I live in AZ.

Thanks Seth for all your work to educate us.

[QED]

7. I'm in Biggs' district.

I'm surrounded by those who think like him.

[in2herbs]

8. Sorry to hear that. It's hard and sometime scarry to be a D in the Red Sea. My town is more R than

D but the surrounding cities are also R. I took a drive the other day through my town and I was appalled at the number of trump signs that are still up that far past election.

While Biggs may be crazy, IMO Gosar has him beat. But don't leave out Deb Lesko.

[QED]

11. My neighbor's flagpole

displays a Trump flag above the American flag. I won't even walk my dog past that crazy place.

[soothsayer]

9. Holy cow. That is fascinating. And horrifying. I didn't listen to his speech

But I did post Yamiche’s tweet about this. I think she said “confusing” and I had just assumed he effed it up... but I guess the subtext was why it actually caught her attention.

43/ "I just spoke to Mike [Pence] and I said, 'That doesn't take courage, what takes courage is to do *nothing*.'"I have to unpack this, because it is an *extraordinary* threat against the Vice President that *many* people will miss.Do folks realize what Trump is saying here? (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1347908845281095680)

[nolabear]

13. Yes. So many have believed he wouldn't kill them if it suited him.

They are ALL wrong. No one is excepted. He’d strangle Ivanka in her sleep if she “made him.”

[soothsayer]

15. He's have someone else do it though

He doesn’t get his hands dirty. And he’s a coward who can’t even fire someone in person except on his old show.

[nolabear]

16. Of course. Someone special. Someone he'd never betray.

[triron]

24. Listen to Michaell Cohen.

[Lucinda]

21. KNR

[Corgigal]

26. Took my time,

read the whole thing. Like lots of people, I can’t stand listen to Trump’s voice. Now my stomach feels ill, and I don’t understand how we ( meaning our govt), didn’t have someone listening to this live, and then call the Capitol and tell people to get off the floor. Why isn’t someone, who has trained in cult speak, not watching Trump?

[ananda]

28. Yes, Trump did try to invite the military to march with them.

It appears that he had Rudy contact the DoD about it.

It looks like the military refused.

[ms liberty]

30. As others have said: Read it all. Wow. n/t