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Biden will need to expand Pence's Secret Service protection beyond six months (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2021 OP
take it from trumps ss budget. bullimiami Jan 2021 #1
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #24
He is going to sleep with one eye open for quite some time idziak4ever1234 Jan 2021 #2
As it should be. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #53
He only gets 6 months? Then he should definitely 25th drumpf soothsayer Jan 2021 #3
Exactly Nevilledog Jan 2021 #33
Invoking the 25th doesn't make Pence the President. Massacure Jan 2021 #59
Well jeez. Thank you. I had no idea soothsayer Jan 2021 #60
Biden could probably issue an executive order granting madaboutharry Jan 2021 #4
Why should Biden do that? SharonClark Jan 2021 #11
Because Pence will forever be targeted by lunatics and madaboutharry Jan 2021 #17
Do they have that long an attention span? Retrograde Jan 2021 #31
It doesn't even have to be an executive order StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13
no rewards for seditionists nt msongs Jan 2021 #5
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #27
Agree. SharonClark Jan 2021 #42
Take Trump's away from him Bev54 Jan 2021 #6
Why should Biden do that? SharonClark Jan 2021 #7
His life will be in danger as a direct result of his service to the government. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #14
Service to the government ? kacekwl Jan 2021 #26
His danger derives specifically from fulfilling his ceremonial role in accepting the electoral tblue37 Jan 2021 #46
Accidental dupe. Self-delete. tblue37 Jan 2021 #51
He should hire his own SheltieLover Jan 2021 #29
I was thinking the same thing. The Dems will have to bail out Pence. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #8
Let him hire his own. SheltieLover Jan 2021 #30
Exactly, he did not care when Dem governors were in danger. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #45
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #55
Deduct the costs from Trump's benefits Raven123 Jan 2021 #9
Seems only fair since he put the hit out on Pence. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #56
I really don't care. He can buy his own protection. If you think he would do it for Biden I have Autumn Jan 2021 #10
I think Pence would do it StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #18
No one said Biden is an asshole. But that fucker Pence is an asshole and has no value other Autumn Jan 2021 #22
If you think Pence is an asshole, why should what he'd do be the measure for what Biden should do? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #25
I don't presume to speak for Biden there is no comparison. I offer my opinion. Fuck Republicans Autumn Jan 2021 #47
Pence doesn't have money to hire his own. He should never have ran with Trump JI7 Jan 2021 #23
What Star said MizLibby Jan 2021 #40
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #32
The Mother fu**er can pay for his own security. His administration has grafted enough tac payer Autumn Jan 2021 #50
Absofuckingloutely! Fuck him! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #57
Biden will oblige BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #12
Pence will owe Biden for saving his life. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #58
Take it away from Dump and give it to Pence. roamer65 Jan 2021 #15
Nope. Let him hire his own security. SheltieLover Jan 2021 #35
If he's convicted of a crime, I agree. roamer65 Jan 2021 #43
Nope... tonedevil Jan 2021 #16
Yup. Let him hire his own. SheltieLover Jan 2021 #36
For cartons of cigarettes. /nt tonedevil Jan 2021 #38
What crimes? marie999 Jan 2021 #65
Pence should have to request it -- publicly. Girard442 Jan 2021 #19
Yes. kacekwl Jan 2021 #28
Biden's glad that Pence will be attending the inauguration. He'll gladly provide Pence w/protection Kaleva Jan 2021 #20
That is unfortunate. I say let him hire his own security. SheltieLover Jan 2021 #39
He's going to need a new identity. n/t Cognitive_Resonance Jan 2021 #21
No way! huffingtongirl Jan 2021 #34
I don't have a problem with it StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #41
I agree Renew Deal Jan 2021 #37
Let him hire his own security. SheltieLover Jan 2021 #44
The crazies are more apt to take out a Democratic SharonClark Jan 2021 #48
My concern is for the country. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #52
Exactly StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #54
My first thought is let Pence go live with Trump Chainfire Jan 2021 #49
"Biden is the only Irishman in the world who doesn't believe in revenge." Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #61
Not a MoDo fan BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #62
"Don't get mad, get even." JFK. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #63
Invoke the 25th and you get protection as long as warranted, or you're on your own dickwad. OverBurn Jan 2021 #64

Massacure

(7,541 posts)
59. Invoking the 25th doesn't make Pence the President.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:37 PM
Jan 2021

The Vice President can temporarily discharge the powers of President, but he doesn't gain the title of President by invoking the 25th amendment. The Vice President can permanently discharge those powers during the remainder of the Presidents term - but still does not gain the title - if the President does not object or by a 2/3 vote of both houses of Congress if the President does object. The 25th does not remove the President from office.



Retrograde

(10,234 posts)
31. Do they have that long an attention span?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jan 2021

Pence will likely be forgotten when Trump moves on to his next target. Let him have the six months the law calls for: if he's still getting threats from Trumpers let Pence hire some security: surely he's got a pile of savings from the tax cuts the Republicans rammed through. Or Betsy could see a yacht or two and cover his expenses.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. It doesn't even have to be an executive order
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

Federal law allows the president to order Secret Service to whomever he deems may need it.

tblue37

(65,778 posts)
46. His danger derives specifically from fulfilling his ceremonial role in accepting the electoral
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

results.

Irish_Dem

(50,339 posts)
8. I was thinking the same thing. The Dems will have to bail out Pence.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jan 2021

I keep imagining Pence making that phone call to Biden.
After all Pence's ultimate in ass kissing to the GOP, the Dems will provide safe harbor for him.

Maybe it will make Pence think about doing the right thing?

Irish_Dem

(50,339 posts)
45. Exactly, he did not care when Dem governors were in danger.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

Or that school kids are in danger from shooters.

Autumn

(45,146 posts)
10. I really don't care. He can buy his own protection. If you think he would do it for Biden I have
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:55 PM
Jan 2021

a real nice bridge you can buy for 5 dollars.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
18. I think Pence would do it
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jan 2021

But that's not the point. Whether Pence would do it or not, Biden's not an asshole.

Autumn

(45,146 posts)
22. No one said Biden is an asshole. But that fucker Pence is an asshole and has no value other
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jan 2021

than a fly rest once Trump is gone. No reason to waste money on him.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
25. If you think Pence is an asshole, why should what he'd do be the measure for what Biden should do?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:03 PM
Jan 2021

Autumn

(45,146 posts)
47. I don't presume to speak for Biden there is no comparison. I offer my opinion. Fuck Republicans
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

Fuck them all to hell. There is not one decent Republican on the face of this earth.

JI7

(89,381 posts)
23. Pence doesn't have money to hire his own. He should never have ran with Trump
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jan 2021

But I agree that Biden should provide protection for him.

Autumn

(45,146 posts)
50. The Mother fu**er can pay for his own security. His administration has grafted enough tac payer
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

money and he will get a real nice pension. He will get $85,000 per year. Not bad at all. He can afford his own security or hide in his house for the rest of his life.

roamer65

(36,752 posts)
15. Take it away from Dump and give it to Pence.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jan 2021

Folks, it did take courage for him to go against Dump and follow the Constitution.

He should be rewarded for that behavior.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
35. Nope. Let him hire his own security.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jan 2021

He made his bed. Let the traitor sleep in it. He had no choice but to do his job.

roamer65

(36,752 posts)
43. If he's convicted of a crime, I agree.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jan 2021

If not I would like to see it done to force the wedge deeper into the crack of the Repuke party.

Asymmetric warfare.

34. No way!
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:06 PM
Jan 2021

No way. Pence is part of the problem. Also, he is responsible for the death of many HIV patients in his state and he had no remorse over that.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
41. I don't have a problem with it
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jan 2021

The importance of trying to prevent a white supremacist mob from lynching a former vice president far beyond any personal concern about said former vice president.

Renew Deal

(81,949 posts)
37. I agree
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jan 2021

I'm sure people are happy to fantasize about not doing this, but it would be bad for the country if something happened to him.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
48. The crazies are more apt to take out a Democratic
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

office holder or kids in a school than take out Pence. Your concern for his welfare just seems silly.

Renew Deal

(81,949 posts)
52. My concern is for the country.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:19 PM
Jan 2021

And something bad happening to him would be bad for the country. Your lack of concern about the country is noted.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
54. Exactly
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:28 PM
Jan 2021

We don't need lynch mobs going after former government officials, regardless whether we agree with their politics. We need to protect them. That's who we are as a nation and I refuse to turn into them.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
49. My first thought is let Pence go live with Trump
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:16 PM
Jan 2021

I have seen all of the loving looks over the last four years. Donald is probably going to be lonely after a few weeks. Let one detail cover them both.

Biden will need to provide him with what ever security is necessary. He shouldn't be murdered by right-wing thugs for being Trumps sidekick.

Irish_Dem

(50,339 posts)
61. "Biden is the only Irishman in the world who doesn't believe in revenge."
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jan 2021

A quote from Maureen Dowd, New York Times.

He will happily give Pence the extra service.

But anyway you cut it, Pence owes Biden.

Irish_Dem

(50,339 posts)
63. "Don't get mad, get even." JFK.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jan 2021

I'm not a fan of MoDo either, but I got a big kick from her statement.

You have to be Irish to really appreciate that comment.
See above JFK quote.
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