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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Trump's "shakeup" at DOD will turn out to be related to Wednesday's events
His replacement of much of the civilian leadership was suspicious at the time. I think we will soon see that it was more sinister than many even thought.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)soldierant
(7,153 posts)I'm sure Larry Hogan sees it clearly.
Any investigation will simply make it clearer.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Phoenix61
(17,080 posts)At the time Twitler was doing all that I didnt understand why. I also didnt know about how law enforcement at the Capital Building worked.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)People were saying it the night the news was announced that he had replaced leadership in the DOD with his own loyalists. It's going to bite him in the ass big time, even through his adult diapers.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)By the time all is said and done I suspect we will all be shocked to learn just how badly US agencies have been infiltrated by adversaries during this administration.
ancianita
(36,511 posts)Yeehah
(4,653 posts)All of Trump's worst nightmares will become reality soon.
OMGWTF
(4,064 posts)Quixote1818
(29,219 posts)I doubt these folks have stellar resumes.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,728 posts)He knew what was coming, put a yes man in a position of power and told said yes man to stand down.
Yet drumf cultists still think, He would never do something like that.
BainsBane
(53,175 posts)The Acting Secretary of Defense was central to the plot. He refused to answer the calls of the MD National Guard and maybe others. It was entirely deliberate. It was a military coup.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But not a military coup - that would have been if the military had tried to overthrow the current civilian leaders, including the DOD leadership and Trump. But I do think it was likely insurrection and sedition.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)2naSalit
(87,742 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,674 posts)Hair Furor's fingerprints are all over this thing...................
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)including subcontracted civilian, were put under control of his chosen civilians.
ancianita
(36,511 posts)Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
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bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)I though this was so true I posted it twice!
Snarkoleptic
(6,003 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:57 PM - Edit history (1)
"All 10 Living Ex-Defense Secretaries Warn Trump Not to Involve Military in Election Fraud Claims" https://time.com/5926073/defense-secretaries-trump-election/
was brought about when the former Sec. Def's caught wind of Trump plan to use the military as part of his planned coup.
They shined a light on it, which is why the Capitol insurrection was mostly done by average street level Trumpists.
We're seeing there were some LEO's involved, but I suspect we'll eventually find a few stray active duty military folks were involved.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)magicarpet
(14,767 posts)... Demos now clamoring for mail in voting so voters do not contaminate each other,... trDumpie places his sycophant as Postmaster General so he can gum up mail in voting ballots. trDumpie voters encouraged to vote in person and disregard mail in voting. Biden's ballots to be spoiled/lost - trDumpie at precinct ballots counted. (trDumpie wins election.)
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Final electoral vote count.
Plan A:
trDump's sycophant VP Pence is in charge of final electoral vote count, trDump hopes to persuade him to make the count go in trDump's favor.
Plan B:
VP Pence final electoral vote count in the senate room.
trDump holds a rally just away from the White House with his hardcore Nazi/Fascist gathered around. trDump and his Nazi political sycophants scream election fraud, stolen election, and rob/cheat the vote until the Fascist /Nazi stormtroopers are foaming at the mouth rabid insane.
Then trDumpie unleashes this rabid, insane, nasty, and death zombie group to go just up the road and disrupt the final electoral count that is headed to favor Biden,... the final count must be disrupted and stopped.
This is the Brooks Brothers blue print. Create mayhem and chaos, cause maximum disruption and inflict the wrath of God - bringing the count to a immediate halt to stop the rampaging Nazi crowd. Then find a court to step in to bring peace to the vote count with the court ruling in trDumpie's favor and against Biden.
THIS WAS A (FLORIDA) BROOKS BROTHERS STOP THE (ELECTORAL) VOTE COUNT ON STEROIDS. A Brooks Brothers stop the vote count multiplied times 20,000 fold.
Need we need be reminded who engineered the Florida, Brooks Brothers chaos and mayhem stop the vote count to take the election from Gore and hand it to Bush the Dumber.
It was the one and only Rethug dirty trickster party operative,.. Roger Jason Stone, trDumpie's hatchet man.
That was Roger Stone's fuck you to AmeriKKKa because he almost got locked up and put away because he is an unethical Nazi who hates any idea of Democracy.
OMGWTF
(4,064 posts)magicarpet
(14,767 posts)*~*~*~*~
BrunswickDems
Oct 19, 2020
2 min
Why it Matters...Brooks Brothers Riot
The last time a presidential election was stolen was in the year 2000. The Supreme Court of the United States involved itself in a state election matter. The State of Florida was having issues with counting ballots in counties across the State.
The Florida State Supreme Court was getting ready to rule that some ballots, as long as the intent of the voter was able to be surmised, should be recounted and counted by hand. This would be a very long process. The lead for Bush was only around 1,000 votes out of over six million votes cast. After several deadlines passed, Katherine Harris, then Floridas secretary of state and a Republican, declared George W. Bush the winner. Al Gore filed a lawsuit to continue the manual tabulation of votes.
Meanwhile, in Miami-Dade County, people interrupted a meeting of election canvassers who were trying to decide how to count votes in time for deadlines set by Florida courts. They decided to count the over 10,000 votes that the tabulation machines rejected. In response, paid operatives went to Miami in an effort to stop the recount.
The mostly white, Republican crowd, dressed in suits, stormed the Board of Elections. This became known as the Brooks Brothers riot, named after the luxury clothier, whose suits were favorites among the politicos and Walls Street types.
This appeared to change the public perception of the recount. In fact, the recount was stopped by the United States Supreme Court and Bush was declared the winner.
The reason I bring this up is that two and soon to be three future Supreme Court justices were part of this so-called Brooks Brothers Riot Chief Justice John Roberts, Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh and the most recently nominated Amy Coney Barrett. Each of them had a role in stopping the recount.
How do you think they will rule if the case Trump v. Biden is heard before them?
malaise
(270,644 posts)THEY STILL FAILED!
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)He wouldn't approve Governor Hogan's request to dispatch the Maryland Nat'l Guard to the Capitol, even though Hogan was almost begging him to let him do so.
TinCup
(54 posts)Of course it was. Once the onion of this conspiracy is peeled it will reveal so many layers from the DOD to the Capital Police. Buckle up because this will shake this country to its core.
ancianita
(36,511 posts)peeling this onion will result in the shake up the structure of militarized law enforcement, privatized militaries. Capitol and DC Police and the Secret Service.
The FBI warned America and the FBI and DOJ will force the restructuring.
Lots of jobs for qualified Americans coming up and lots of promotions for good law enforcement with good records.
Stinky The Clown
(67,924 posts)Just another disparate fact that we will be weaving into the history of this event.
BadgerMom
(2,789 posts)His imminent resignation was announced 12/14 and set for 12/23. The 1/6 march was announced on 12/19. Barrs resignation seemed abrupt at the time. Could he have been asked to keep the FBI away from the Capitol on 1/6 and have demurred because he recognized sedition when he heard about it? He may have info about early planning on this.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)patphil
(6,349 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)
So, we need to get him under oath and find out what he knew.
Merrick Garland is going to be a very very busy guy this year.
Barr may end up wishing he wasn't such a lawless toady for Trump.
Correction: It wasn't Mitch's wife who provided transportation to the Trump rally that led to the insurrection, it was Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginni. And she could end up in hot water for that.
I deleted the part that referred to Mitch's wife...my mistake.
BadgerMom
(2,789 posts)hkp11
(275 posts)I agree...
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)thought this all up by himself. However, Im sure Gen Flynn helped him with some master arrangements. Trump doesnt read, he barely knows who does what.
Mr. Ected
(9,678 posts)From the national committee to state and local government. The conspiracy that Mueller uncovered was never quelled, just covered up and left behind. This may have been the culmination, but it's been festering and proliferating for years under Vlad and Trump's control.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)opposition from his stooges) which he still yet may do, but seeing what happened here, I think you are right. It's like a shell game.
SharonAnn
(13,794 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,010 posts)Many on DU noted with alarm this elevation of Trump loyalists to civilian controls over the military.
PatrickforO
(14,642 posts)work with other agencies and Congress to root out any complicity in the coup attempt. Geez.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)PatrickforO
(14,642 posts)Will correct.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)shakeup, well, now that they know when will they report on it.
FakeNoose
(33,419 posts)Link to tweet
This is the smoking gun. It's proof that Chump has been planning the coup since before November 3rd. He knew he was going to lose and he didn't care. He just figured his newly installed toadies would keep him in power anyway.
mcar
(42,675 posts)Amaryllis
(9,531 posts)Person of Interest
(367 posts)Enoki33
(1,594 posts)leadership changes motivated by allegiance to the despot, and not the constitution. DOD was likely the most crucial of them.
Ligyron
(7,700 posts)and this ain't safely over and done with until President Biden is sworn in.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Wasn't one of the first people he let go the guy who wouldn't let him send the army to Minneapolis during George Floyd riots?
We had the National Guard, but tRump wanted active duty military to beat BLM down.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/mark-esper-fired-defence-pentagon-donald-trump
Grasswire2
(13,589 posts)Trump has been treated with kid gloves by too many people who should have known better.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Trump's DoD cronies will be tried along with him.