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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:58 PM Jan 2021

I think Trump's "shakeup" at DOD will turn out to be related to Wednesday's events

His replacement of much of the civilian leadership was suspicious at the time. I think we will soon see that it was more sinister than many even thought.

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I think Trump's "shakeup" at DOD will turn out to be related to Wednesday's events (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2021 OP
For certain. There is no doubt. secondwind Jan 2021 #1
Yes, it's already pretty clear. soldierant Jan 2021 #51
No doubt! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #2
I have no doubt you are right. Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #3
I don't think anyone on DU has any doubts of this. liberalmuse Jan 2021 #4
That's exactly what I thought on Wednesday. Merlot Jan 2021 #5
I agree completely. There was a purpose to that shakeup. NoRoadUntravelled Jan 2021 #6
It will be simple to remove them. Fire anyone hired in the last four years. ancianita Jan 2021 #23
Just think how desperate Trump must be to attempt this ridiculous coup Yeehah Jan 2021 #7
Karma's only a bitch if you are. OMGWTF Jan 2021 #47
Yes, and he would have had to look around a lot to find people willing to do a coup for him Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #8
How could it not have been about this RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2021 #9
Definitely BainsBane Jan 2021 #10
True about the Acting DOD Secretary StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #14
Yes, and treason! n/t AntiFascist Jan 2021 #29
It's a no-brainer. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #11
Oh yeah! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2021 #12
You have to be right, including more sinister. Special forces, Hortensis Jan 2021 #13
THIS. They were put there to give the signal to 15+ corporate militaries. ancianita Jan 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #15
Absolutely! bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #16
I've read that the headline- Snarkoleptic Jan 2021 #17
Excellent point. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #18
Like the election,... Covid coming,... turn a blind eye let Covid get out of control,... magicarpet Jan 2021 #19
IIRC, now-Chief Justice Roberts was part of the Brooks Brothers Brigade. OMGWTF Jan 2021 #50
Roberts... Kavanaugh,... & Amy Coney Barrett magicarpet Jan 2021 #53
And most importantly malaise Jan 2021 #20
Yes! And I would point directly to the Acting Defense Secretary I forget his name.... ClusterFreak Jan 2021 #21
Their Are No Coincidences TinCup Jan 2021 #22
Most important, ancianita Jan 2021 #31
I beleive the very same. Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #25
DoD seems highly culpable, but what did Barr and DoJ know? BadgerMom Jan 2021 #26
It's very likely that Barr's resignation/firing was also related to this StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #27
Looking back, it makes sense that he didn't want any part of the 1/6 coup. patphil Jan 2021 #36
Agreed. BadgerMom Jan 2021 #45
I was thinking the same thing on Wed hkp11 Jan 2021 #28
I'm not sure that Trump Corgigal Jan 2021 #30
The threads will lead in every which direction and implicate the GOP leadership Mr. Ected Jan 2021 #32
This is wat I believe Dream Girl Jan 2021 #46
I thought at the time he did it so he could easily start a war with Iran (with little to no IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #33
I always believed the "shakeup" at the DOD was for nefarious reasons. SharonAnn Jan 2021 #34
It was transparently obvious that he must be anticipating events responsible adults wouldn't allow. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #35
Let us hope Garland's DOJ (on edit, I had DOD here!) will get back on track, and more importantly PatrickforO Jan 2021 #37
Garland will be at DOJ StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #39
Indeed. Just got up from a nap. My error. PatrickforO Jan 2021 #40
:-) StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #41
Remembering MSM scratching their heads trying to figure out what the dictator was up to with the DOD yaesu Jan 2021 #38
It was the Pentagon and DoD where people were fired and replaced in November FakeNoose Jan 2021 #42
You gotta figure mcar Jan 2021 #43
Also stopping security briefings to transition team. Amaryllis Jan 2021 #44
Exactly right!! Person of Interest Jan 2021 #48
Also remember the many other prior department Enoki33 Jan 2021 #49
Those toadies are still in place too. Ligyron Jan 2021 #52
Yep TigressDem Jan 2021 #54
when a man tells you what he is, believe him the first time Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #55
Definitely. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #56

soldierant

(7,153 posts)
51. Yes, it's already pretty clear.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jan 2021

I'm sure Larry Hogan sees it clearly.

Any investigation will simply make it clearer.

Phoenix61

(17,080 posts)
3. I have no doubt you are right.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:00 PM
Jan 2021

At the time Twitler was doing all that I didn’t understand why. I also didn’t know about how law enforcement at the Capital Building worked.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
4. I don't think anyone on DU has any doubts of this.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:00 PM
Jan 2021

People were saying it the night the news was announced that he had replaced leadership in the DOD with his own loyalists. It's going to bite him in the ass big time, even through his adult diapers.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
6. I agree completely. There was a purpose to that shakeup.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:06 PM
Jan 2021

By the time all is said and done I suspect we will all be shocked to learn just how badly US agencies have been infiltrated by adversaries during this administration.

Yeehah

(4,653 posts)
7. Just think how desperate Trump must be to attempt this ridiculous coup
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jan 2021

All of Trump's worst nightmares will become reality soon.

Quixote1818

(29,219 posts)
8. Yes, and he would have had to look around a lot to find people willing to do a coup for him
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jan 2021

I doubt these folks have stellar resumes.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,728 posts)
9. How could it not have been about this
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jan 2021

He knew what was coming, put a yes man in a position of power and told said yes man to stand down.

Yet drumf cultists still think, He would never do something like that.

BainsBane

(53,175 posts)
10. Definitely
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:11 PM
Jan 2021

The Acting Secretary of Defense was central to the plot. He refused to answer the calls of the MD National Guard and maybe others. It was entirely deliberate. It was a military coup.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. True about the Acting DOD Secretary
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:14 PM
Jan 2021

But not a military coup - that would have been if the military had tried to overthrow the current civilian leaders, including the DOD leadership and Trump. But I do think it was likely insurrection and sedition.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. You have to be right, including more sinister. Special forces,
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

including subcontracted civilian, were put under control of his chosen civilians.

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Snarkoleptic

(6,003 posts)
17. I've read that the headline-
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:27 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:57 PM - Edit history (1)

"All 10 Living Ex-Defense Secretaries Warn Trump Not to Involve Military in Election Fraud Claims" https://time.com/5926073/defense-secretaries-trump-election/

was brought about when the former Sec. Def's caught wind of Trump plan to use the military as part of his planned coup.
They shined a light on it, which is why the Capitol insurrection was mostly done by average street level Trumpists.
We're seeing there were some LEO's involved, but I suspect we'll eventually find a few stray active duty military folks were involved.

magicarpet

(14,767 posts)
19. Like the election,... Covid coming,... turn a blind eye let Covid get out of control,...
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

... Demos now clamoring for mail in voting so voters do not contaminate each other,... trDumpie places his sycophant as Postmaster General so he can gum up mail in voting ballots. trDumpie voters encouraged to vote in person and disregard mail in voting. Biden's ballots to be spoiled/lost - trDumpie at precinct ballots counted. (trDumpie wins election.)

*~*~*~*~*~

Final electoral vote count.

Plan A:
trDump's sycophant VP Pence is in charge of final electoral vote count, trDump hopes to persuade him to make the count go in trDump's favor.

Plan B:
VP Pence final electoral vote count in the senate room.

trDump holds a rally just away from the White House with his hardcore Nazi/Fascist gathered around. trDump and his Nazi political sycophants scream election fraud, stolen election, and rob/cheat the vote until the Fascist /Nazi stormtroopers are foaming at the mouth rabid insane.

Then trDumpie unleashes this rabid, insane, nasty, and death zombie group to go just up the road and disrupt the final electoral count that is headed to favor Biden,... the final count must be disrupted and stopped.

This is the Brooks Brothers blue print. Create mayhem and chaos, cause maximum disruption and inflict the wrath of God - bringing the count to a immediate halt to stop the rampaging Nazi crowd. Then find a court to step in to bring peace to the vote count with the court ruling in trDumpie's favor and against Biden.

THIS WAS A (FLORIDA) BROOKS BROTHERS STOP THE (ELECTORAL) VOTE COUNT ON STEROIDS. A Brooks Brothers stop the vote count multiplied times 20,000 fold.

Need we need be reminded who engineered the Florida, Brooks Brothers chaos and mayhem stop the vote count to take the election from Gore and hand it to Bush the Dumber.

It was the one and only Rethug dirty trickster party operative,.. Roger Jason Stone, trDumpie's hatchet man.

That was Roger Stone's fuck you to AmeriKKKa because he almost got locked up and put away because he is an unethical Nazi who hates any idea of Democracy.


magicarpet

(14,767 posts)
53. Roberts... Kavanaugh,... & Amy Coney Barrett
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jan 2021


*~*~*~*~




BrunswickDems
Oct 19, 2020
2 min

Why it Matters...Brooks Brothers Riot


The last time a presidential election was stolen was in the year 2000. The Supreme Court of the United States involved itself in a state election matter. The State of Florida was having issues with counting ballots in counties across the State.



The Florida State Supreme Court was getting ready to rule that some ballots, as long as the intent of the voter was able to be surmised, should be recounted and counted by hand. This would be a very long process. The lead for Bush was only around 1,000 votes out of over six million votes cast. After several deadlines passed, Katherine Harris, then Florida’s secretary of state and a Republican, declared George W. Bush the winner. Al Gore filed a lawsuit to continue the manual tabulation of votes.



Meanwhile, in Miami-Dade County, people interrupted a meeting of election canvassers who were trying to decide how to count votes in time for deadlines set by Florida courts. They decided to count the over 10,000 votes that the tabulation machines rejected. In response, paid operatives went to Miami in an effort to stop the recount.



The mostly white, Republican crowd, dressed in suits, stormed the Board of Elections. This became known as the Brooks Brothers riot, named after the luxury clothier, whose suits were favorites among the politicos and Walls Street types.



This appeared to change the public perception of the recount. In fact, the recount was stopped by the United States Supreme Court and Bush was declared the winner.



The reason I bring this up is that two and soon to be three future Supreme Court justices were part of this so-called Brooks Brothers Riot — Chief Justice John Roberts, Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh and the most recently nominated Amy Coney Barrett. Each of them had a role in stopping the recount.



How do you think they will rule if the case Trump v. Biden is heard before them?

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
21. Yes! And I would point directly to the Acting Defense Secretary I forget his name....
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

He wouldn't approve Governor Hogan's request to dispatch the Maryland Nat'l Guard to the Capitol, even though Hogan was almost begging him to let him do so.

TinCup

(54 posts)
22. Their Are No Coincidences
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 08:53 PM
Jan 2021

Of course it was. Once the onion of this conspiracy is peeled it will reveal so many layers from the DOD to the Capital Police. Buckle up because this will shake this country to its core.

ancianita

(36,511 posts)
31. Most important,
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jan 2021

peeling this onion will result in the shake up the structure of militarized law enforcement, privatized militaries. Capitol and DC Police and the Secret Service.
The FBI warned America and the FBI and DOJ will force the restructuring.

Lots of jobs for qualified Americans coming up and lots of promotions for good law enforcement with good records.

BadgerMom

(2,789 posts)
26. DoD seems highly culpable, but what did Barr and DoJ know?
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 08:59 PM
Jan 2021

His imminent resignation was announced 12/14 and set for 12/23. The 1/6 march was announced on 12/19. Barr’s resignation seemed abrupt at the time. Could he have been asked to keep the FBI away from the Capitol on 1/6 and have demurred because he recognized sedition when he heard about it? He may have info about early planning on this.

patphil

(6,349 posts)
36. Looking back, it makes sense that he didn't want any part of the 1/6 coup.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:17 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 10, 2021, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)

So, we need to get him under oath and find out what he knew.
Merrick Garland is going to be a very very busy guy this year.
Barr may end up wishing he wasn't such a lawless toady for Trump.

Correction: It wasn't Mitch's wife who provided transportation to the Trump rally that led to the insurrection, it was Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginni. And she could end up in hot water for that.
I deleted the part that referred to Mitch's wife...my mistake.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
30. I'm not sure that Trump
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jan 2021

thought this all up by himself. However, I’m sure Gen Flynn helped him with some master arrangements. Trump doesn’t read, he barely knows who does what.

Mr. Ected

(9,678 posts)
32. The threads will lead in every which direction and implicate the GOP leadership
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jan 2021

From the national committee to state and local government. The conspiracy that Mueller uncovered was never quelled, just covered up and left behind. This may have been the culmination, but it's been festering and proliferating for years under Vlad and Trump's control.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
33. I thought at the time he did it so he could easily start a war with Iran (with little to no
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:07 PM
Jan 2021

opposition from his stooges) which he still yet may do, but seeing what happened here, I think you are right. It's like a shell game.

Ford_Prefect

(8,010 posts)
35. It was transparently obvious that he must be anticipating events responsible adults wouldn't allow.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jan 2021

Many on DU noted with alarm this elevation of Trump loyalists to civilian controls over the military.

PatrickforO

(14,642 posts)
37. Let us hope Garland's DOJ (on edit, I had DOD here!) will get back on track, and more importantly
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jan 2021

work with other agencies and Congress to root out any complicity in the coup attempt. Geez.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
38. Remembering MSM scratching their heads trying to figure out what the dictator was up to with the DOD
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jan 2021

shakeup, well, now that they know when will they report on it.

FakeNoose

(33,419 posts)
42. It was the Pentagon and DoD where people were fired and replaced in November
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:40 PM
Jan 2021



This is the smoking gun. It's proof that Chump has been planning the coup since before November 3rd. He knew he was going to lose and he didn't care. He just figured his newly installed toadies would keep him in power anyway.


Enoki33

(1,594 posts)
49. Also remember the many other prior department
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

leadership changes motivated by allegiance to the despot, and not the constitution. DOD was likely the most crucial of them.

Ligyron

(7,700 posts)
52. Those toadies are still in place too.
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jan 2021

and this ain't safely over and done with until President Biden is sworn in.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
54. Yep
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jan 2021

Wasn't one of the first people he let go the guy who wouldn't let him send the army to Minneapolis during George Floyd riots?

We had the National Guard, but tRump wanted active duty military to beat BLM down.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/mark-esper-fired-defence-pentagon-donald-trump

Grasswire2

(13,589 posts)
55. when a man tells you what he is, believe him the first time
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 05:16 PM
Jan 2021

Trump has been treated with kid gloves by too many people who should have known better.

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