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Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:01 PM

Antifa: 99.9% correct, or 100% correct?

Seems like their concerns and arguments have been vindicated. They warned us. They said the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, and the 3%ers were all Fascists and should be opposed, with force if necessary, every time they show their faces.

And Fascists they are.

Instead, they became Trumpism's useful villains, accused by paranoid, violent yahoos across America of planning schoolbus invasions of small towns most Antifa escaped as soon as they could. 41 towns full of gullible marks to con.

Not to mention "burning down everything last summer", as my Dad put it.

They stayed away from DC on 1/6. Why act when your enemy is busy hurting himself?



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Reply Antifa: 99.9% correct, or 100% correct? (Original post)
maxsolomon Jan 2021 OP
Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #1
BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2021 #2
jimlup Jan 2021 #3
BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2021 #4
jimlup Jan 2021 #5
BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2021 #6
Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2021 #7
chowder66 Jan 2021 #8
maxsolomon Jan 2021 #12
jcgoldie Jan 2021 #9
JonLP24 Jan 2021 #11
lunasun Jan 2021 #10

Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:07 PM

1. I'm generally against violence

but I do understand antifaís thinking. Sometimes these assholes need to be physically confronted.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:07 PM

2. People told me I was wrong for suggesting we stay out of that shitshow.

Iím glad everyone stayed away. The responsibility falls solely on the fascist cult.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:07 PM

3. This isn't over...

I hate to say it but this isn't over. We have to expect the worse. If I'm wrong - I celebrate.

We should be prepared for an armed insurrection against the United States of America.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:08 PM

4. We've had an insurgency for awhile.

I expect it to escalate before it gets squashed completely.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:09 PM

5. I hope that it is squashed and it should be but...

these are not normal times and if we think we are playing we are playing with fire.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:20 PM

6. I think we all know this isn't a game.

I think the authorities might finally get it now as well. They were embarrassed last week. I think they might overreact next time.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:39 PM

7. Antifa isn't a real organization.

There are people who are anti-fascist, which is the default, common sense position to take.

But I honestly donít really see much of a presence for any real Antifa organized group.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:42 PM

8. +1

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

12. Depends on what "Real" is. They are loosely organized, deliberately.

More real are the Peace and Justice Collectives that reach out to the homeless across the PNW; many of those kids are Anarchists and dress in the black we've all come to know and love.

But someone fought with the PBs when they came into PDX to intimidate citizens. Michael Reinoehl claimed he was Antifa, and I believe him.

Antifa flags exist; I've seen them multiple times. Someone (usually a young man) was waving them.

Antifa's online sites exist; their critique of Fascists and injustice is too consistent to be a sock puppet hoping to discredit them.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:42 PM

9. 99% fake

Antifa exists insofar as fascists need to project and divert attention from their crimes.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:47 PM

11. Antifa is real but they are mostly on the West coast

Antifa keeps an eye on white supremacists which is why they hate antifa.

Here is a recent story




SAN DIEGO (AP) ó Supporters of President Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters in San Diego on Saturday, prompting police to declare the gathering an unlawful assembly because of acts of violence.

Officers were hit with rocks, bottles and eggs, police said, and the crowd directed pepper spray at them.

KSWB-TV tweeted video of counter demonstrators, most of them dressed in black and waving an antifa flag, throwing a folding chair and spraying a chemical irritant at a smaller group of people participating in the march on the Pacific Beach boardwalk.

The station said in other instances, members of both groups shoved and threw objects at one another.

https://www.wdbj7.com/2021/01/10/trump-supporters-counter-protesters-clash-in-san-diego/

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:46 PM

10. Remember when that one punched a white supremacy snot on TV. Facists are being coddled or

ignored in the US at peril . It canít be normalized any further than it already is
Antifa is not enough the country has to reject these fascists loudly
Some are not true antifa and are provocateurs and are burning . IMO
Letís make antifa s job easy and lets legally stop a lot of these haters ignoring laws in DC
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=916

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