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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:30 PM Jan 2021

Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inaug, will have NG troops vetted

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Mike Balsamo @MikeBalsamo1

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inauguration, will have National Guard troops vetted.

9:27 PM · Jan 17, 2021


https://apnews.com/article/biden-inauguration-joe-biden-capitol-siege-ap-top-news-857bacc273e16ff82dc9fefed1242ae8

FBI vetting Guard troops in DC amid fears of insider attack

By LOLITA C. BALDOR
4 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. defense officials say they are worried about an insider attack or other threat from service members involved in securing President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, prompting the FBI to vet all of the 25,000 National Guard troops coming into Washington for the event.

The massive undertaking reflects the extraordinary security concerns that have gripped Washington following the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by pro-Trump rioters. And it underscores fears that some of the very people assigned to protect the city over the next several days could present a threat to the incoming president and other VIPs in attendance.

Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told The Associated Press on Sunday that officials are conscious of the potential threat, and he warned commanders to be on the lookout for any problems within their ranks as the inauguration approaches. So far, however, he and other leaders say they have seen no evidence of any threats, and officials said the vetting hadn’t flagged any issues.

”We’re continually going through the process, and taking second, third looks at every one of the individuals assigned to this operation,” McCarthy said in an interview after he and other military leaders went through an exhaustive, three-hour security drill in preparation for Wednesday’s inauguration. He said Guard members are also getting training on how to identify potential insider threats.

-/snip-


Time to do the inauguration in a secure location.
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Defense officials tell AP they fear possible inside attack at inaug, will have NG troops vetted (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2021 OP
My greatest cilla4progress Jan 2021 #1
Me too, sister. 💜 MontanaMama Jan 2021 #23
Good. Can't be too careful. Glorfindel Jan 2021 #2
and sadat was killed at a military celebration surrounded by military guards..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #9
Should have done already. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #3
+1 LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #11
Yeah. WTAF? MontanaMama Jan 2021 #24
Yeah. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #26
Um. Duh. Baitball Blogger Jan 2021 #4
Vetted for what? White supremacy? If so, care to explain why that isn't done on a regular brewens Jan 2021 #5
Absolutely agree Nevilledog Jan 2021 #7
I know a librarian who would lose their job if this were enacted. intheflow Jan 2021 #12
There's no way I want Joe, Kamala and Nancy together that day. dem4decades Jan 2021 #6
exactly! orleans Jan 2021 #15
If the SCOTUS can hear arguments remotely, the POTUS and VPOTUS can be sworn in remotely Orrex Jan 2021 #16
+1 appalachiablue Jan 2021 #36
that handmade34 Jan 2021 #8
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #10
I think Biden is trying to make the U.S. look strong by continuing with the public inauguration. C Moon Jan 2021 #22
My stomach leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #13
Time for this to be addressed Bear Creek Jan 2021 #14
As a retired Military officer I reject this. James48 Jan 2021 #17
I reject your rejection Bear Creek Jan 2021 #21
Thank you for that Redleg Jan 2021 #28
I have worked with ex-navy mostly Bear Creek Jan 2021 #34
Let us hope so Redleg Jan 2021 #41
And.....We're in a deadly pandemic, for Pete's sake. littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #18
So what happens with these people after the inauguration? jalan48 Jan 2021 #19
When people in positions like that are second-guessing their subordinates and wondering about... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #20
They won that victory years ago, when the republicans threw a hissy fit... Salviati Jan 2021 #27
Secret Service has this.... Jon King Jan 2021 #25
Thanks, GOP, you let Russia infiltrate our government Mr. Ected Jan 2021 #29
Keep Your Fingers Crossed, America! panfluteman Jan 2021 #30
National Guard can't do anything to Biden.... Jon King Jan 2021 #31
Doing the math, 74,222,593 is only 22.5% of this country. Still big enough to worry about, though. ancianita Jan 2021 #40
Paranoia will destroy ya, has the FBI been vetted lately? What do we really know about those SS guys Baclava Jan 2021 #32
The military's on this because the FBI had a watch list & didn't prevent anything, just watched. ancianita Jan 2021 #35
So to "vett" 25k guard troops in 3 days they gonna look at their phones and browsing history or what Baclava Jan 2021 #37
Dunno. Not needed if they're not near the grounds. But it's outside our clearance level, isn't it. ancianita Jan 2021 #39
This is a BFD. If defense officials are concerned, then we need to be. How do they vet? ancianita Jan 2021 #33
We went through this dread with Obama. Why does it feel worse this time? ancianita Jan 2021 #38

MontanaMama

(24,609 posts)
23. Me too, sister. 💜
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jan 2021

That at the moment it seems all is going as planned, all hell breaks loose. Everything just be done to protect Joe and Kamala. I hope Nancy will not be in attendance. We need her to be alive if the worst should happen. That said, I can’t imagine 20,000 troops would let our worst nightmares come true. But, here we are.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
9. and sadat was killed at a military celebration surrounded by military guards.....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jan 2021

security is only as good as your guards loyalties.

And the guards are still under trumps command.

MontanaMama

(24,609 posts)
24. Yeah. WTAF?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:33 PM
Jan 2021

Why is this even an issue? Looking back, I wonder if we will ever know how many of the people charged with protecting Biden/Harris had other plans.

2naSalit

(99,884 posts)
26. Yeah.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jan 2021

The SS switch was a week or two ago. This should have been done already and perhaps it has. The public isn't always the first to know.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
5. Vetted for what? White supremacy? If so, care to explain why that isn't done on a regular
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jan 2021

basis? Near the top of my list is an investigation to root out anything that looks, sounds or stinks like a white supremacist from the military and law enforcement. Those found out should be banned permanently from service as a cop or any other government service.

intheflow

(29,981 posts)
12. I know a librarian who would lose their job if this were enacted.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:14 PM
Jan 2021

And I'm okay with that. This person disdains everyone they work with, especially our diverse public. Having white supremacists in civil service seems antithetical to civil service itself, and I can't imagine why this librarian would even be drawn to civil service. I wish I had authority over them to address it.

orleans

(36,662 posts)
15. exactly!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jan 2021

i think it should be on zoom

what if they miss something in vetting -- after all, security seemed to suck on the 6th

i'm glad to hear they are vetting these guards but just the idea that they find it necessary to do so tells me my paranoia is justified.

Orrex

(66,656 posts)
16. If the SCOTUS can hear arguments remotely, the POTUS and VPOTUS can be sworn in remotely
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jan 2021

The rest is pageantry.

C Moon

(13,439 posts)
22. I think Biden is trying to make the U.S. look strong by continuing with the public inauguration.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:26 PM
Jan 2021

I wish they wouldn't, though.
First and foremost, get Biden in power. Then worry about how the U.S. looks.

leighbythesea2

(1,289 posts)
13. My stomach
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jan 2021

Actually hurts. Been trying to be cool all week in spite of insanity. But my body knows better and haven't been able to eat really. This just did me in. Please make it secret and virtual after its over.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
14. Time for this to be addressed
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jan 2021

Lots of military and police are neo nazis. Most support right wing extremists. The Navy guys are the worst or maybe being surrounded by them was why they seem worse. The guys before Reagan are normal republican and even some democrats. The guys that were in during Reagan and after are usually zealots. Just think these are the ones with security clearances and access to nuclear.

James48

(5,082 posts)
17. As a retired Military officer I reject this.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

No, “most of the military” don’t support right wing extremists. It’s actually pretty rare in the military.

Those in the military work side by side with people from every political persuasion, from left wing progressives to life long republicans, but those who support extremists at either end are rare.

Does it happen? Sure. Just like the rest of society. But the military is especially aware that there isn’t time nor temperament to have those types in uniform. When they are discovered, they are removed.

Please don’t paint all the military with such a broad brush, because it’s not true.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
21. I reject your rejection
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:25 PM
Jan 2021

When did you retire? I have worked with these guys for 30 years. Maybe they are just concentrated where I worked. Ex Army guy with a security clearance was just arrested for the riot. I am sure there is more of them.

Redleg

(6,810 posts)
28. Thank you for that
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:54 PM
Jan 2021

People here at DU need to be a bit more measured in their critique of the military. I don't know what percentage of military members are far-right extremists and neither most of the people posting here. What I do know is that the active duty military cast more votes for Biden than for Trump in 2020 and that the military is becoming more diverse in terms of race and ethnicity. I also know that the military is aware that some members harbor extremist views and that the services have taken action to address some of these problems. Military commanders know that it is in the best interest of the service to prevent the spread of extreme viewpoints and behaviors because those will break down unit cohesion.

I haven't served since the early 90s so my own experiences aren't relevant nor do they constitute actual data. As a company grade officer, I wasn't aware of enlisted and NCO political attitudes because I didn't discuss such things with them. I did know that many of my fellow officers were Republicans but most political discussions rarely went farther than that. Did any of my units have extremist soldiers? I don't know. I suspect that we had some who harbored racial prejudices but this by itself does not make one an extremist. As anywhere else, the military will have a difficult time guarding against a person's thoughts and beliefs. For the most part, they can take action only when there are explicit actions or words.

I applaud the military for the actions it is taking and I hope they are successful.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
34. I have worked with ex-navy mostly
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:34 AM
Jan 2021

I know that Biden did get military vote. I hope that means the stranglehold the republicans have had is broken. Just like the Southern strategy is now broken.

Redleg

(6,810 posts)
41. Let us hope so
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jan 2021

I think they'll use the Southern Strategy until it stops working everywhere. It is good that some southern democrats are working so hard to get people registered to vote and to the polls.

littlemissmartypants

(31,549 posts)
18. And.....We're in a deadly pandemic, for Pete's sake.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:05 PM
Jan 2021

I don't want a public ceremony. Transmit it from a secret location. I am good with that. The whole situation is scary. The fewer people who know the details, the better.

Maybe have a flare shot over the reflecting pool when it's over. That's all I need.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,169 posts)
20. When people in positions like that are second-guessing their subordinates and wondering about...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jan 2021

...potential armed treason, the black hats have already won a sort of victory.

Hopefully, just a bloodied nose in an early skirmish.

Salviati

(6,057 posts)
27. They won that victory years ago, when the republicans threw a hissy fit...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:54 PM
Jan 2021

... at the mere notion that right wing terrorism was a problem in this country worth investigating, and the FBI backed down from it's work on the issue

I hope that is one of the things that gets a priority in the new administration.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
25. Secret Service has this....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jan 2021

This National Guard guys are low level and very perimeter. Secret Service will have a blanket on Biden-Harris, snipers, etc.

No National Guard guy will get close to Biden-Harris.

Mr. Ected

(9,713 posts)
29. Thanks, GOP, you let Russia infiltrate our government
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:56 PM
Jan 2021

This conspiracy is the most heinous case of espionage ever perpetrated in our nation's history.

panfluteman

(2,189 posts)
30. Keep Your Fingers Crossed, America!
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

And whatever happens, happens. History will be made regardless. And whatever happens, we will have to deal with it as a nation.

Just do the math - 47 percent, almost half, of this country voted for that POS Trump - even after four years of constant scandals mistakes and failures. And so, there's probably going to be those in the national guard protecting the inauguration who voted for Trump - that's a virtual certainty. Let's just hope that they put their oath to the country and the constitution above who they voted for.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
31. National Guard can't do anything to Biden....
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:26 AM
Jan 2021

These guys won't be anywhere near Biden on inauguration day. They are merely a show of force and well on the perimeter.

Secret Service is not stupid, they don't allow any of these guys close enough to do any harm.

ancianita

(42,786 posts)
40. Doing the math, 74,222,593 is only 22.5% of this country. Still big enough to worry about, though.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 01:10 AM
Jan 2021
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
32. Paranoia will destroy ya, has the FBI been vetted lately? What do we really know about those SS guys
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:30 AM
Jan 2021

What about those that dont have twitter or facebook accounts? Sleeper cells?

ancianita

(42,786 posts)
35. The military's on this because the FBI had a watch list & didn't prevent anything, just watched.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jan 2021

This isn't paranoia. This is state leadership protection, with every watched sleeper cell interrupted on pretext.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
37. So to "vett" 25k guard troops in 3 days they gonna look at their phones and browsing history or what
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jan 2021

ancianita

(42,786 posts)
39. Dunno. Not needed if they're not near the grounds. But it's outside our clearance level, isn't it.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jan 2021

ancianita

(42,786 posts)
33. This is a BFD. If defense officials are concerned, then we need to be. How do they vet?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jan 2021
The military oath requires protecting the Constitution by protecting civilian power transitions.

Arrest and conviction records: Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964; Cal. Lab. Code § 432.7; Cal. Lab. Code § 432.8; Cal. Pen. Code § 290.46(k)(2); 775 ILCS 5/2-103; Job Opportunities for Qualified Applicants Act, 820 ILCS 75/15; N.Y. Correct. Law § 752; N.Y. Exec. Law § 296 (15), (16); 18 Pa.C.S. § 9125

Credit/financial checks: Consumer Credit Reporting Agencies Act, Cal. Civ. Code § 1785.13; Cal. Lab. Code § 1024.5; 820 ILCS 70/10 • Health checks/medical screening: Americans with Disabilities Act, 42 U.S.C. § 12101, et seq.; Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, 42 U.S.C. § 2000ff, et seq.; Cal. Lab. Code § 132a

Social media
: Cal. Lab. Code § 980; 820 ILCS 55/10(a)

Record disposal: 16 CFR Part 682 • Recordkeeping: 29 CFR Part 160

Records/information obtained from consumer reporting agencies, including but not limited to education and employment records, credit and financial records, and social media
: Fair Credit Reporting Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1681, et seq.; Consumer Credit Reporting Agencies Act, Cal. Civ. Code § 1785.13(a)(6); Investigative Consumer Reporting Agencies Act, Cal. Civ. Code § 1786.18(a)(7); Cal. Civ. Code § 1786.53

Political affiliation: D.C. Code § 2–1402.11; Wis. Stat. Ann. § 111.321

*Polygraph tests: Employee Polygraph Protection Act, 29 U.S.C. §§ 2002, 2006; Cal. Lab. Code § 432.2; 225 ILCS 430/14.1; N.Y. Lab. Law §§ 733–739; 18 Pa.C.S. § 7321

Other searches:
offender registry,
credential verification,
skills assessment,
reference checks,
credit reports and
Patriot Act searches are becoming increasingly common

Patriot Act searches are NSA and 3-letter agency reviews of all data they've got, and they've got every bit an byte of metadata they decide to target.

These vettings should now apply for everyone going anywhere near Biden, Harris and Pelosi.

Everyone. Those at the ceremony, WH, and in The U.S. House, too.

* Yes, the much maligned polygraph is used by AI as a correlate of red flags across vet categories.



ancianita

(42,786 posts)
38. We went through this dread with Obama. Why does it feel worse this time?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 12:56 AM
Jan 2021

Joe isn't any more worthy or mortal, but America's darkness of death threat bursts out more now, and surrounds governments to threaten racist fascist death upon them.

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