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Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:41 AM

Rep. John Katko-R: US Capitol attack was 'much worse than people realized'

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2021/01/rep-john-katko-us-capitol-attack-was-much-worse-than-people-realized.html

Washington – Rep. John Katko says he has received intelligence briefings that suggest the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol was more than a spontaneous attack by an angry mob.

Katko, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said the briefings raised serious questions about how much planning went into the attack and the security lapses that allowed rioters to reach the House and Senate chambers.

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“There are a lot of unanswered questions here, from possible security lapses to who was involved and when they were involved,” Katko said. “We need to have a full stem to stern look back on this to see what happened, how it happened, the sequence of events, who contributed to it, and how we make sure it never happens again."

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Reply Rep. John Katko-R: US Capitol attack was 'much worse than people realized' (Original post)
SheltieLover Jan 2021 OP
exboyfil Jan 2021 #1
SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4
area51 Jan 2021 #18
DownriverDem Jan 2021 #25
lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #2
mercuryblues Jan 2021 #32
lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #33
mercuryblues Jan 2021 #34
BarbD Jan 2021 #38
malaise Jan 2021 #3
wiggs Jan 2021 #5
Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #10
wiggs Jan 2021 #13
Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #28
malaise Jan 2021 #14
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #12
sarcasmo Jan 2021 #6
SheltieLover Jan 2021 #8
Marcuse Jan 2021 #26
ace3csusm Jan 2021 #31
BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #39
Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #7
SheltieLover Jan 2021 #11
SunSeeker Jan 2021 #15
tiptonic Jan 2021 #24
tiptonic Jan 2021 #27
SunSeeker Jan 2021 #35
oasis Jan 2021 #9
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #16
SheltieLover Jan 2021 #17
Dennis Donovan Jan 2021 #19
ARPad95 Jan 2021 #22
safeinOhio Jan 2021 #20
Harker Jan 2021 #21
matt819 Jan 2021 #23
Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #29
BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #30
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #37
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #36

Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:54 AM

1. Katko was a yes on impeachment

We could use more Republicans like him.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:00 AM

4. For sure!

We need 2 parties:

Moderate dems; &

Progressive Dems.

Repukes have always demonstrated a gross disdain for democratic ideals. Not sure why their "party" is not deemed as terrorist org., to be honest.

It is beyond me how any sane person could remain aligned with a "party" who wants to censure even private citizens for stating factual truths. Cindy McCain, for example.

I've not heard any right-wing outrage or anything from McCain or Cheney regarding these threats to besmirch their reputations, have you?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:07 PM

18. +1 n/t

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:47 PM

25. No we don't

We have always been a big tent party.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:56 AM

2. They had inside help. Cruz, Hawley, Booboo, Scaly Steve, Louie Gomer, etc. are culpable.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:25 PM

32. Go higher up on that food chain

Remember that trump did not go into the bunker during an armed insurrection. In addition to the Secret Service not forcing him to go. The WH is less than 2 miles from the Capitol, by foot.

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:30 PM

33. Why would he hide from his own army?

Yes, of course Turd is culpable.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:32 PM

34. He stood on that stage like a

General leading the charge. Then slinked away to his TV room for hot hamberders and fries.

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:40 PM

38. This Mussolini wannabe was expecting the coup to work.

He had already made changes at the DOD.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:58 AM

3. Truth will out

and many folks should be on their way to prison. If they are smart they would jump now

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:07 AM

5. Hopefully. I've always suspected that the gang of 8 and TPTB shield us and the world from

details that undermine our high opinion of ourselves as an invulnerable 'beacon of democracy'. I think there are aspects of the 2016 election, Russia, corporate control of DC, even some terrorist attacks that TPTB think wouldn't be helpful if known.

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Response to wiggs (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:15 AM

10. Remember the briefing after the 2016 election...

where all the Senators and Reps came out all pale and distressed looking?

Some shit was revealed there that the public never got to see.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:22 AM

13. yes...one of the things I was thinking of. exactly. 'ashen-faced' nt

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Response to wiggs (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:05 PM

28. and the Iraqi torture briefings that left members visibly shaken

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Response to wiggs (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

14. I have thought that since Florida 2000

Really great post

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:18 AM

12. The dropping of dimes should begin soon.

1st one's to the AG's office get the best deal....

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:12 AM

6. Now that we know Michael Flynn's brother Charles was part of Capitol response.

Last edited Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

The Insurrection Commission should haul both Flynn brothers in for questioning.





https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:14 AM

8. Absolutely!

Then strip them of rank & terminate all benefits, while they are on their way to prison!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:47 PM

26. Branded

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:22 PM

31. Dont forget the 3 congress men looking for a pardon

Arizona Republican Congressmen Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar have asked President Donald Trump to preemptively pardon them for their roles .

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:48 PM

39. I mean, wasn't the Benghazi main beef all about the delay in sending rescue forces from

ITALY and other countries to Libya to stop a terror attack in progress? The Army sat on a request to send National Guard troops across fucking TOWN to put down a violent mob inside the Capitol. Need WAY more investigation into this.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:14 AM

7. That was definitely more than just an "angry mob" of Trumpists...

The FBI needs to dig into this and ferret it out. Intel agencies need to be deeply involved and Congressional hearings are a must.

A Special Council would be advisable too.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:16 AM

11. Yes!

And not a partisan repuke who will clam up like Mr. Mueller. Gawd, what a disappointment that guy was!

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:31 AM

15. There's no need for a Special Council, there's no conflict of interest with this administration.

Regular line DOJ prosecutors are appropriate. But we definitely need to investigate the shit out of this, with tons of hearings so that the American people know what happened.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:44 PM

24. Some remind me

Someone please refresh my memory, on how many federal prosecutors/ attorney generals, trump fired his first weeks in office. 40 comes to mind. I always wondered why it happened so soon.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:48 PM

27. Someone remind me

Someone please refresh my memory, on how many federal prosecutors/ attorney generals, trump fired his first weeks in office. 40 comes to mind. I always wondered why it happened so soon.

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Response to tiptonic (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:35 PM

35. He eventually replaced all the AUSAs as far as I know.

Had to make it his personal law firm, being the corrupt scumbag that he is. Biden better fire all of Trump's AUSAs.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:15 AM

9. Some may call it "treason". nt

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:32 AM

16. Maybe that's why the turtle looked like a ghost and scared shitless yesterday.

Intel may have told him just how close he was to being strung up or shot......

However, I am confident he's back to his normal asshole self today.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:38 AM

17. Could be!

And, of course he us back to his asshole ways.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

19. For Katko to come out with this is *big*

Normally, he's a coward when it comes to Trump.

For *only* the 2nd time in several years (the first being his vote to impeach Trump last week), I'm proud of my NY-24 congressman. Good on ol' Katko.🐱

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:36 PM

22. Katko's also stunned tRump commuted the sentence of drug kingpin who orchestrated the 1990 murder of

Syracuse police officer Wallie Howard, Jr. I wonder what the "Thin Blue Line" loving crowd (i.e., MAGATs) in Onondaga County think about that? Oh, wait! Officer Howard was black. Oops! Major conflict with their hatred of BLM movement.

https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/01/outraged-a-sock-in-gut-prosecutors-us-rep-katko-police-stunned-after-trump-frees-kingpin-in-syracuse-cop-killing.html

Syracuse, NY -- The federal prosecutor who sent a drug kingpin to prison for orchestrating the murder of a Syracuse police officer expressed outrage Wednesday at President Trump’s surprise decision to release him from a life sentence.

“I’m kind of outraged that President Trump has granted him a commutation,” said retired Assistant U.S. Attorney John Duncan, a Republican who handled the trial personally.

Duncan wasn’t the only local official who blasted the outgoing president’s decision to release the mastermind of the slaying of Police Officer Wallie Howard, one of Central New York’s most notorious murders.

U.S. Rep John Katko, Syracuse police Chief Kenton Buckner, former police union president Jeff Piedmonte and Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick expressed similar dismay to Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard this morning.


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Katko (R-Camillus), a former federal prosecutor and colleague of Duncan at the time, said that Davidson was responsible for a heinous crime.

“Jaime Davidson was found guilty of orchestrating the brutal murder of Wallie Howard, a decorated Central New York police officer,” Katko said. “I completely disagree with the president’s decision to commute the sentence for this heinous crime. Davidson is a criminal who should have served out his life sentence.”

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:31 PM

20. This is bigger and more important than BENGHAZI.

We need to spend as much time and money investigating 1/6/21.

Just my opinion.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:32 PM

21. It pays to look in the rearview mirror while driving forward.

Something the guilty and complicit would rather not bother with.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:42 PM

23. Then get your republican colleagues to acknowledge that publicly and apologize

Or, given your colleagues' support, think about changing to D.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:10 PM

29. This could have been a successful coup and a bloodbath of Congress. "We" were fortunate. n/t

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:19 PM

30. I hope no one is overly surprised by this.

A large number - probably a majority - consider themselves either military, or paramilitary. That kind of person plans, and there were aspects of the day that seemed pretty coordinated.

That being said, it's a damned good thing that these people don't do this "for real" (in the ACTUAL military), because they can't plan a bar fight.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:40 PM

37. We should not assume that some plans were not successful behind the visible MAGAt crowd.

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Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:38 PM

36. Hell, we've known this at DU since that night. It's good that it is being verified.

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