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Do you think Biden might nominate Obama to SCOTUS? (Original Post) MicaelS Jan 2021 OP
He'd be great, but I want someone younger. :) servermsh Jan 2021 #1
I'm thinking Michelle will say no mucifer Jan 2021 #2
I see what you did there. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #29
No. mattclearing Jan 2021 #3
No Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #4
No way. Below Obama's pay grade. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #5
I don't think it will happen, but Taft was Chief Justice after his presidency. rsdsharp Jan 2021 #18
Quite true. It's not unprecedented. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #20
Biden promised a black woman arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #6
I guess I missed that. n/t MicaelS Jan 2021 #7
It'll be Sherrilyn Ifill. n/t FSogol Jan 2021 #21
I've heard District Court Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson In It to Win It Jan 2021 #25
Another good choice. Hopefully, Biden will replace Thomas and Alito. n/t FSogol Jan 2021 #26
I think it could well be California Supreme Court Justice Leondra Kruger, 45yo in July Celerity Jan 2021 #34
Leondra Kruger Would Be a Great Choice TomCADem Jan 2021 #35
From 2007 to 2013, Kruger was assistant US Solicitor General and acting principal deputy solicitor Celerity Jan 2021 #36
I was hoping Obama would become our next Secretary of State FakeNoose Jan 2021 #8
No. Too valuable as a political ally. GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #9
She might be too busy Bad Thoughts Jan 2021 #10
Yes, if he wants it. Sneederbunk Jan 2021 #11
I would not wish that on Obama. KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #12
Hope not, but he wouldn't moonscape Jan 2021 #13
Obama doesn't want it. tman Jan 2021 #14
I hope not. You want someone with courtroom experience. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #15
No good reason to. BGBD Jan 2021 #16
He's too vibrant a personality to be in that position for life. CatMor Jan 2021 #17
I don't think Obama would relish the position msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #19
Sherilynn Ifill is a badass. She'd e an amazing Supreme Court justice StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #30
Amazing Warrior! Hard working, dedicated, kick ass msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #37
Yes, I saw it. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #39
exactly. that's why I tried to read her, but I found it challenging in this case. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #40
No, because Obama doesn't want the job... brooklynite Jan 2021 #22
Why would Obama want that job? helpisontheway Jan 2021 #23
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #24
No..President Obama isn't interested Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #27
No. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #28
Two San Diego judges who stood up against Trump would be good choices: Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #31
How about best friend? tavernier Jan 2021 #32
he's living the good life, why give that up to be a judge ...ugh nt msongs Jan 2021 #33
Fairly sure that Michelle... Xolodno Jan 2021 #38

Celerity

(43,398 posts)
34. I think it could well be California Supreme Court Justice Leondra Kruger, 45yo in July
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jan 2021


Ketanji Brown Jackson is another who could be picked.

Sherrilyn Ifill is only around a year younger than Obama. Kagan was 49yo when Obama first started vetting her 11 years ago. Ifill is only 2 years younger than Kagan (now).

The 3 Trump SCOTUS justices (all 3 are Gen Xers) are all younger than Ifill (a Boomer) as well, Amy Coney Barrett closing in on 10 years younger.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
35. Leondra Kruger Would Be a Great Choice
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jan 2021

Not only is she currently a State Supreme Court Justice now, but she was an accomplished appellate attorney before hand who argued several times before the United States Supreme Court.

Celerity

(43,398 posts)
36. From 2007 to 2013, Kruger was assistant US Solicitor General and acting principal deputy solicitor
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:08 AM
Jan 2021

part of that time as well.

12 cases argued before SCOTUS.

What can we learn from Justice Leondra Kruger’s arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court? (2015)

http://scocablog.com/what-can-we-learn-from-justice-leondra-krugers-arguments-before-the-u-s-supreme-court/

California’s newest Supreme Court Justice, Leondra R. Kruger, served from 2007 to 2012 as an Assistant to the Solicitor General of the United States. Hired initially by Republican Solicitor General Paul Clement, Kruger served under six different confirmed or acting Solicitors General. When Neal Katyal was elevated to Acting Solicitor General in 2010 he appointed Kruger as his Acting Principal Deputy, the second-highest position in that office. Kruger’s appointment as Principal Deputy in 2010 capped an unusually fast rise, indicative of Kruger’s innate skills as well as her ability to command respect from peers and, indeed, experienced colleagues much older than she.

While in the Solicitor General’s office, Kruger argued twelve cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court (and of course participated in the briefing of many more). In five of these cases, Kruger appeared for the principal party (as Petitioner or Respondent); and in seven, she argued as an Amicus or “friend of the Court,” a position that the Solicitor General is often granted to present the federal interest in a case where the federal government is not the direct party. One of the unique aspects of the Solicitor General’s role is how regularly the Court invites or allows that office to participate in oral argument, even as amicus, and how often the SG’s amicus positions actually predominate in the Court’s final decisions!

This post will not survey all of Kruger’s oral arguments; you can find a complete list and links to the audio of the arguments themselves here. (Interestingly, Kruger’s recent appointment was apparently so speedy that the Oyez audio file site doesn’t even display a photo of her, as it does for most regular SCOTUS arguers.) However, by listening to a few of Kruger’s arguments, I think you can pick up some signals of what Justice Leondra Kruger will be like when sitting on the California Supreme Court’s bench.

What comes across most consistently and immediately in the audio files of Kruger’s arguments is a remarkable ability to stay calm in the face of intense questioning. Indeed, her rare talent is to sound not just calm, but actually sensible and understanding, as she confronts a Justice or two known to be hostile to the government’s position.

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FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
8. I was hoping Obama would become our next Secretary of State
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:45 PM
Jan 2021

... because he's awesome at diplomacy. However it's safe to assume that Joe and Barack have talked this over. I'm sure Joe gave him first pick of whatever job he wanted. We'll soon see.


GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. No. Too valuable as a political ally.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jan 2021

As a SC justice he disappears. We have other options.

Besides, I would be shocked if he desires to be a judge. Once a justice he would have to totally divorce himself from politics. Can’t see him wanting that.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
13. Hope not, but he wouldn't
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:50 PM
Jan 2021

accept anyway imo.

Lots of other young, solid choices. Why lock him up where we can’t hear from him? We need him out here!





 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
16. No good reason to.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:56 PM
Jan 2021

Obama is going to be 60 soon. No reason to nominate anyone over 45 honestly. There are plenty of solidly liberal judges out there that are young and will carry that mantle for a long time.

Obama is much better serving as the parties elder statesman for years to come.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
19. I don't think Obama would relish the position
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:03 PM
Jan 2021

But one person I learned was on the wish list apparently per Rachel Maddow, is Sherrilyn Ifill, law professor and president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. She was on Rachel's show a few nights ago, when Rachel popped the question. Ifill demurred. But that conversation revealed she's a strong favorite and looking at her creds holy moly. yeah we need her, she'd have my vote.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
30. Sherilynn Ifill is a badass. She'd e an amazing Supreme Court justice
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:29 PM
Jan 2021
Sherrilyn Ifill is the President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. (LDF), the nation’s premier civil rights law organization fighting for racial justice and equality. LDF was founded in 1940 by legendary civil rights lawyer (and later Supreme Court justice) Thurgood Marshall, and became a separate organization from the NAACP in 1957. The lawyers at the Legal Defense Fund developed and executed the legal strategy that led to the Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, widely regarded as the most transformative and monumental legal decision of the 20th century. Ifill is the second woman to lead the organization.

Ifill began her career as a Fellow at the American Civil Liberties Union, before joining the staff of the LDF as an Assistant Counsel in 1988, where she litigated voting rights cases for five years.

In 1993 Ifill left LDF to join the faculty at University of Maryland School of Law in Baltimore. Over twenty years, Ifill taught civil procedure and constitutional law to thousands of law students, and pioneered a series of law clinics, including one of the earliest law clinics in the country focused on challenging legal barriers to the reentry of ex-offenders. Ifill is also a prolific scholar who has published academic articles in leading law journals, and op-eds and commentaries in leading newspapers. Her 2007 book “On the Courthouse Lawn: Confronting the Legacy of Lynching in the 21st Century,” was highly acclaimed, and is credited with laying the foundation for contemporary conversations about lynching and reconciliation. A 10th anniversary edition of the book was recently released with a Foreword by Bryan Stevenson, the acclaimed lawyer and founder of the national lynching memorial in Montgomery, AL.

In 2013, Ifill was invited back to the Legal Defense Fund – this time to lead the organization as its 7th Director-Counsel. In that role, Ifill has increased the visibility and engagement of the organization in cutting edge and urgent civil rights issues, while maintaining the organization’s decades-long leadership fighting voter suppression, inequity in education, and racial discrimination in application of the death penalty. At critical moments during national unrest following the killing of unarmed African Americans by law enforcement officers, Ifill’s voice and vision framed the issue of policing reform and urban deprivation with powerful clarity in media appearances and public discussions. Her forceful and fact-based analysis of complex issues of racial justice has made her a sought-after speaker and strategist whose counsel is sought by government officials, civic and community leaders, and national civil rights colleagues.

Ifill graduated from Vassar College in 1984 with a B.A. in English, and earned her J.D. from New York University School of Law in 1987. She has received honorary doctorates from New York University, Bard College, Fordham Law School and CUNY Law School. She serves on the board of the National Women’s Law Center, the National Constitution Center and on the Advisory board for the Profiles in Courage Award. She is a past chair of U.S. board of the Open Society Foundations, one of the largest philanthropic supporters of civil rights and liberties in the country.

She serves on the board of the Learning Policy Institute and on the Advisory Board for the Profiles in Courage Award. She is a past chair of the U.S. board of the Open Society Foundations, one of the largest philanthropic supporters of civil rights and liberties in the country. https://www.naacpldf.org/about-us/staff/sherrilyn-ifill/

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
37. Amazing Warrior! Hard working, dedicated, kick ass
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021

Did you happen to catch the interview the other night on Rachel's? If so, how did you 'read' her response to Rachel's question when she brought the prospect? I read her demur to be quite sincere, like it's the last thing on her mind. She's so dedicated to her work.

On the other hand, she could possibly be persuaded if she thought there was a chance and the President actually nominated her.

I think.

Well, I think it would be awesome.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
39. Yes, I saw it.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jan 2021

She played it really cool. She's smart enough to know that if she's on the short list, she needs to keep quiet about it. And if she's not, she needs to keep quiet about it.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
40. exactly. that's why I tried to read her, but I found it challenging in this case.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:49 AM
Jan 2021

That's a good thing for the reasons you stated.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
23. Why would Obama want that job?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jan 2021

He is living the good life. Retired. He gets to quarantine in that beautiful new home. He has an opportunity to spend time with his spouse. Their nest is empty. I’m sure they will travel the wood once the pandemic is over. The Republicans treated him like crap for 8 years. I want him to go out and enjoy the rest of his life.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
31. Two San Diego judges who stood up against Trump would be good choices:
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jan 2021


Judge Dana Sabraw ordered reunification of families separated at the border.

Judge Gonzalo Curiel found Trump University a fraud and endured racist taunts by Trump on social media.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
32. How about best friend?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

That would be his most valuable position. That job requires a best friend, preferably one who has been there before.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
38. Fairly sure that Michelle...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021

...has vetoed that idea already. Plus, Obama likes to be active and speak out, he has to shut that all down if he joins the SC.

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