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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:00 AM Jan 2021

The Case for Vitamin D Against COVID - Made Plain By A UK Politican

About Time SOMEONE Starts Talking About this:




(Sidenote: Have taken 5000 IU of Vitamin D3 since April 2020 - along with Vitamin's B12, C, a bit More D and Zinc in Multivitamin along with Black Seed Oil and Turmeric anti-inflammatories)
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The Case for Vitamin D Against COVID - Made Plain By A UK Politican (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 OP
On it. Also Zinc lozenges. applegrove Jan 2021 #1
3000 IU every day plus Zinc and a multi-vitamin lapfog_1 Jan 2021 #2
I have always been afraid to take too much. Something about it not being water Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #4
You can have your levels tested to see if you need it. nt. Mariana Jan 2021 #11
My doctor has had to put me on 50, 000 micrograms a week AwakeAtLast Jan 2021 #25
I notice that when I take a decent amount of supplement I pee like I'm a teenager. Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #3
I have been drinking a lot more water. AwakeAtLast Jan 2021 #26
Can you give me that name because I'm not following? I think you are drinking Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #27
Yes! AwakeAtLast Jan 2021 #28
Thanks! I need a new water bottle. I have been washing and using old plastic Maraya1969 Jan 2021 #29
These are non toxic. n/t AwakeAtLast Jan 2021 #35
I've followed a vitamin/supplement regimen for years and it mostly supports what information has abqtommy Jan 2021 #5
Been taking D3 4000 IU for several years. gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #6
No real evidence Vitamin D effective to treat or prevent COVID-19 debsy Jan 2021 #7
Perhaps it's more a Vitamin D deficiency that makes one more susceptible? Native Jan 2021 #9
It may just be correlated too Lithos Jan 2021 #12
The highest likelihood of vitamin D deficiency BGBD Jan 2021 #13
That's my feeling as well Lithos Jan 2021 #15
Yeah BGBD Jan 2021 #24
Add Obesity and diabetes Tink41 Jan 2021 #31
Like we are saying though BGBD Jan 2021 #34
Multiple Studies Proves Otherwise: LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #16
Good stuff. Thanks. Native Jan 2021 #22
I take Vit D Sgent Jan 2021 #8
Okay... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #17
Dig into a few Medical University Websites Tink41 Jan 2021 #32
Just a heads up, black seed oil is used in traditional medicine circles to lower borderline mitch96 Jan 2021 #10
Be careful with black seed oil...it can interact with other meds. Chakaconcarne Jan 2021 #18
Thanks! LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #19
Same here, it just tastes like crap.. When I can find it Elderberry syrup is not bad though... mitch96 Jan 2021 #21
Marking to read later. tanyev Jan 2021 #14
I take anywhere from 5000 to 8000 iu daily. triron Jan 2021 #20
Spanish region sees 82% drop in deaths following vit D supplement programme Native Jan 2021 #23
Good Stuff... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #36
Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #30
I've taken 10,000 to 12,000 i.u.'s daily for 14 years. Greybnk48 Jan 2021 #33
Good to hear.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #37

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
2. 3000 IU every day plus Zinc and a multi-vitamin
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:13 AM
Jan 2021

since last January

Dr. Fauci has stated that he takes 6000 IU every day.

Plus, should I end up in an ER with low blood oxygen and covid positive, I want Calcfidiol injections (vitamin D already converted) and low dose dexamethasone.

If available, Regeneron.

remdesivir too... although it is unlikely to have any effect.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
4. I have always been afraid to take too much. Something about it not being water
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:34 AM
Jan 2021

soluble. But if Fauci takes 6 grams maybe I will try that.

I wonder if it can help with all these aches and pains that have come also!

(I just started taking liquid turmeric)

AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
25. My doctor has had to put me on 50, 000 micrograms a week
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

For six weeks twice. That was to raise my levels and of course he checked them every time I finished a around. Now I'm taking a multivitamin which already has a thousand, and an extra dose of D3. I'm taking that along with turmeric, glucosamine and Claritin as a nightcap haha.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
3. I notice that when I take a decent amount of supplement I pee like I'm a teenager.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:29 AM
Jan 2021

Instead of the old lady tiny stream that has come upon me.

That may be gross but if anyone has that problem............

AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
26. I have been drinking a lot more water.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

I just got a great water bottle that labels the time you are supposed to drink a certain amount of water. I have found that I am not drinking large quantities of water at one time, and therefore I'm not using the restroom nearly as much. It's almost like it's giving my body a time to absorb the water. I don't know if that will help you but it might be worth a shot!

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
27. Can you give me that name because I'm not following? I think you are drinking
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jan 2021

less amounts more times during the day?

AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
28. Yes!
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jan 2021

Live Infinitely.

https://www.liveinfinitely.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAjKqABhDLARIsABbJrGmE5zXdDl3oiwQg3YwWMc4Ay6WMPbBqXbvonG3TQ6qW_Ekw8_l-xpkaAuCYEALw_wcB

I like it so much I'm going to order another one for me and one for my daughter!

Edit to add: I ordered the 34 oz bottle package that comes with the straw lid and insulated wrapper. When I order another bottle I will only order the actual bottle.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
29. Thanks! I need a new water bottle. I have been washing and using old plastic
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jan 2021

bottles and I just read that the plastic is probably leaching into me!

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. I've followed a vitamin/supplement regimen for years and it mostly supports what information has
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:17 AM
Jan 2021

come out regarding covid support. I've added NAC, low-dose aspirin and increased my level of D3 and I can
say "so far so good" as I continue to mask, distance and wash up. Looking forward to the vaccine, too
but when I get it I won't get complacent about what I consider my proven efforts.

gademocrat7

(10,659 posts)
6. Been taking D3 4000 IU for several years.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:24 AM
Jan 2021

Since last March added Elderberry with Zinc and C, Turmeric. Going to increase my Vitamin D3 to 6000 IU per day.

debsy

(530 posts)
7. No real evidence Vitamin D effective to treat or prevent COVID-19
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:37 AM
Jan 2021
No real evidence Vitamin D effective to treat or prevent COVID-19
[link:https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/health-fitness/mixed-views-effectiveness-vitamin-d-covid-19/|]


No evidence that vitamin D is able to prevent or affect the severity of COVID-19 in individuals with European ancestry: a Mendelian randomisation study of open data
[link:https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2021/01/07/bmjnph-2020-000151.info|]

People are saying that during the winter months, Vitamin D is lower in one's body and in the summer it is higher.

A) People spend more time outside in open air and more distanced from each other during the summer months.
B) Conversely, they spend more time inside, in close proximity to each other in the winter months.

IMO, it is for those two reasons that COVID is less prevalent during the summer months than the winter months.

Native

(5,942 posts)
9. Perhaps it's more a Vitamin D deficiency that makes one more susceptible?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:01 AM
Jan 2021

As we age our bodies are less efficient at just about everything, and many older people have to start taking D and B supplements. Even people like me who are very healthy, live in the sunshine state, and spend a good amount of time outdoors. Couple that with 2 known factors - older people seem to be more susceptible to the virus, and researchers have yet to be able to explain why homeless camps have such a low rate of spread and an even lower rate of symptoms in those who do become infected.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
12. It may just be correlated too
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 09:42 AM
Jan 2021

The lifestyle which promotes a Vit-D deficiency may make one more susceptible to Covid

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
13. The highest likelihood of vitamin D deficiency
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jan 2021

Is the elderly and dark skinned.

We know these are also the most at risk for Covid, but for other reasons.

Vitamin D supplements cant hurt you, but it seems unlikely they will have any real impact on mortality.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
15. That's my feeling as well
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:43 AM
Jan 2021

I think it's correlated - not causation.

But to your point - doesn't hurt. There is a fairly large number of people with Vit-D deficiency and increasing Vit-D intake is not going to hurt.

That said, you *can* take too much Vit-D. I take Vit-D on my doctor's orders - he said that you can take too much and have it cause issue. But he also said to do so would require a sustained dose which I gathered was something like > 10,000 IU over a long period of time. I personally alternate between daily 2,000 and 5,000 IU which puts me into a happy place on my blood work.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
34. Like we are saying though
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

There's correlation, but maybe nothing more.

It's the same as the old example. Ice Cream sales and violent crime are positively correlated, but ice cream doesn't cause violent crime.

We don't know that being deficient puts you at risk or if something else puts you at risk of both being deficient and having more severe COVID.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
8. I take Vit D
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:52 AM
Jan 2021

but I find it best to get my Covid information from infectious disease doctors rather than politicians.

Tink41

(537 posts)
32. Dig into a few Medical University Websites
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jan 2021

The advice is ALL over. Supplementation is not the key, supplementing a deficiency is.

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
10. Just a heads up, black seed oil is used in traditional medicine circles to lower borderline
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:10 AM
Jan 2021

high blood pressure. If your pressure is normal it might lower it too much. Something to monitor. Just a thought. botanical name Nigella Sativa, Black Cumin seed.
Also with all it's other benefits and minimal side effects taking 5-10k IU's of Vit D3 cant hurt...
YMMV
m
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3642442/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5633670/

triron

(22,006 posts)
20. I take anywhere from 5000 to 8000 iu daily.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jan 2021

My youngest sister (who is a health care provider) is taking 10,000 iu daily at the advice of her physician.
My domestic partner takes 3000 to 4000 iu daily.
We also take 50 mg of zinc almost daily not to mention an immune senescence formula, vitamin C,
and a multi with additional B complex.

Native

(5,942 posts)
23. Spanish region sees 82% drop in deaths following vit D supplement programme
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jan 2021

This is what the MP in the OP's video is referencing...

Mr Davis says Britain should follow the lead of the Spanish region of Andalusia in the south of Spain, which distributed calcifediol, a vitamin D supplement, to care home residents in November.

Since then, Andalusia's figure for deaths per million from Covid-19 has dropped from 187 in November to just 11 at the start of January, and is on track for just 33 for the month, an 82 per cent drop from November.

Meanwhile, the UK's comparative toll has escalated from 175 in November to what will be more than 300 for January.

[A team of experts analyzed scientific studies from around the world, and while they said it wasn't possible to establish a direct relationship between vitamin D and covid because there is currently a lack of high quality trials...]

...A mountain of studies have found that an overwhelming amount of people who get Covid-19 do not have enough vitamin D in their bodies and the sickest of patients are often deficient.

[link:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9148549/Conservative-MP-calls-nationwide-rollout-vitamin-D-tablets.html|

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
33. I've taken 10,000 to 12,000 i.u.'s daily for 14 years.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

Along with B-complex, or B12. I live in a State with months of overcast days (Wisconsin) and many here have low D levels.

My oldest has MS, and there's a connection also between living in the North (low D3) and MS, she tells me.

Edited to add: I have my bloodwork done every 6 months for diabetes, and years ago we added D3 levels to my bloodwork to make sure it was ok to take these levels. According to my body, the answer's yes.

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