An ideological mixture of Dem House Reps (15) & Senators (14) voted Nay on Austin's SecDef waiver

[Celerity]

Multiple veterans voted no.


House

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202118

Democratic Nays

Bowman Democratic New York NAY
Bush Democratic Missouri NAY
Casten Democratic Illinois NAY
Golden Democratic Maine NAY
Hayes Democratic Connecticut NAY
Jayapal Democratic Washington NAY
Kind Democratic Wisconsin NAY
Malinowski Democratic New Jersey NAY
Moore Democratic Wisconsin NAY
Moulton Democratic Massachusetts NAY
Ocasio-Cortez Democratic New York NAY
Omar Democratic Minnesota NAY
Porter Democratic California NAY
Pressley Democratic Massachusetts NAY
Tlaib Democratic Michigan NAY


Senate

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00004#position

Democratic Nays

Baldwin (D-WI)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Duckworth (D-IL)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Markey (D-MA)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murray (D-WA)
Rosen (D-NV)
Tester (D-MT)
Van Hollen (D-MD)
Warren (D-MA)
Wyden (D-OR)


Indies

Bernie voted Yea, as did Angus King

[riversedge]

1. um.. both my Dem Rep and Dem Senator voted no. I need to do some research.

[jcgoldie]

6. They were voting no on the waiver

...based on the principle of civilian control of the military as porter explains elsewhere in this thread. They did not vote against the nominee. The fact that Duckworth is on the list is meaningful to me.

[crickets]

12. I had the same reaction. Duckworth's opinion on the matter means a great deal.

Her concerns are good ones, and I respect that. It may be that ignoring the full 7 years required comes back to haunt us at a later date, but I also think we got a good nominee.

[rusty fender]

2. Katie Porter got a waiver

to serve on a committee, but voted no to grant a waiver to Biden’s Sec Def pick

[Celerity]

3. She was denied the waiver this time (her own fault, she quit the FSC & then told Pelosi to

prioritise her other 2 committees, and then asked to be granted the waiver for a 3rd committee).

Here is why she voted no on the Auston waiver-

.

Link to tweet

Rep. Katie Porter
@RepKatiePorter

I voted no on a waiver for Gen. Lloyd Austin to serve as Defense Secretary. Civilian control of the military is one of our founding principles, and more transparent and thorough debate in the House was needed before green lighting a recently retired general to head the Pentagon.

[rusty fender]

5. Tell me how it's not hypocritical

for Porter to be granted a waiver for the last 2 years, but votes no to granting one waiver to Austin?

Porter had every right to vote against Austin’s waiver, but it was hypocritical for her to do so. Let’s call a spade, a spade.

[jcgoldie]

7. Wtf does a waiver for serving on house committees have to do with this?

She voted based on principle. Just because the word “waiver” is used in each case doesn’t make the situations remotely analogous.

[rusty fender]

10. They're both waivers

to arbitrary rules, rules made up by Congress

[jcgoldie]

11. No

Civilian control of the military is not an arbitrary rule made up by congress. The two situations are not remotely alike and calling her hypocritical is being willfully ignorant of the essential obvious difference.

[rusty fender]

14. The amount of time that a military

person must be separated from the military is an arbitrary amount. Austin has been out of the military for 5 years, hence the waiver. A waiver by any other name...

[Celerity]

8. Chalk and cheese.

He waiver request was a due to an arcane and arbitrary technicality in the the Dem caucus's House rules in regards to designating certain committees as exclusive.

Austin's waiver involved the principle of civilian control of the military.

Plus, as I stated already, her waiver request was denied this time, so she is batting one out of two.

[rusty fender]

9. I agree that they're slightly different waivers,

but Austin is only 2 years shy of the arbitrary 7 year rule of being retired from the military.

[Bettie]

13. Why was it hypocritical?

She voted based on her belief in civilian control of the military as did Tammy Duckworth and other members of the house and senate.

So, she voted against a waiver for this particular candidate as he has not been retired long enough.

It was ultimately approved anyway.

[Autumn]

4. I saw complaints yesterday that the Squad was going to vote no. Oops. Guess that stick

is useless now.