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(38,601 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,942 posts)SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)doubleplusgood
(944 posts)dchill
(38,501 posts)In a Seinfeld kind of way.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)time with her scarves.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I saw mid-career professionals hook their wagon to some VP or director that were generally loathed by everyone else. Then the VP retires and no one wants to work with the guy that hooked their wagon to that train.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I am guessing she was very competent before the dictator-wannabe forced her to compromise her professional excellence. She said a few things that made me go WHAT ??
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Good news. Dr Birx had some credibility at one time, but ETTD.
Bye bye.
irisblue
(32,977 posts)twin_ghost
(435 posts)I don't blame her for TRump's scientific ignorance. There was only so much she could do.
irisblue
(32,977 posts)It is a major piece of a physicians duty to do no harm.
She worked at Walter Reed, she worked with HIV/AIDs research. She knew what was going on in regards to the exponentially dangerous rising rates of Corona.
If she had even worn a damned mask when she danced attendance and fawning during those pressers behind trump her sins would have been lessened.
During her time of working for trump, IMO, her passivity is grievous error. She is a scientist and a physician and SHE KNEW BETTER.
(glad I got that off my chest)
twin_ghost
(435 posts)Trump was a first classs jerk that was President. She can't help that.
irisblue
(32,977 posts)My POV is from the staffer behind. She was such an important leader in the development of the HIV/AIDs first meds that helped extend lives of positive women & men who were dying ugly.
"what might have been"
ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)...that ended with "You should retire, Deb."
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)See The Plague Year by Lawrence Wright in 1/4/21 New Yorker.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year (paywall, unfortunately; worth it to buy the issue)
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)But the bleach injection press conference was unforgivable.
To her credit, Dr. Birx and a colleague spent many weeks on the road providing basic public health information around the country. And from the report, she did manage to change some minds. She deserves credit for that and for a long distinguished career dealing with the AIDS epidemic and Ebola.
Donald Trump ruined a lot of careers. Dr. Birx's reputation is one of many hitting the dumpster. Fair or not, everything/everyone Trump touched was tainted.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)If the praise seemed evenly remotely true, that would've been a different story.
Saying NOTHING about him would've been the wise decision.
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21197074/deborah-birx-praised-trump-scientific-literature-coronavirus
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Hes been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data, Birx said. I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues.
Despite what Birx would have you believe, Trump has been pushing misleading and contradictory medical advice. On February 26, for instance, he claimed coronavirus cases would be down to close to zero. His claim was hard to swallow then, and barely a month later the US has more than 85,000 cases.
Its true Trump is sensitive to certain kinds of data but those kinds generally include his own poll numbers and the stock market, not indicators of public health. Relatedly, Trump is currently pushing to reopen businesses currently shuttered by Easter a timetable much faster than what public health experts recommend. So not only is Trump not attentive to the scientific literature, but, as Ive detailed, a number of comments hes made this week have illustrated that he doesnt get the basics about how public health crises work.
But instead of acknowledging that reality or at the very least dodging questions about it Birx decided to go all in on praise.
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cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)As Peggysue2 says above, she's only one of many whose reputations were ruined by their association with Trump.
I had the greatest contempt for her until I read about her face-to-face, often successful attempts to change state mask policy, but because of her early loyalty to Trump, no one will remember her for that, or for her heroic work in Africa for AIDS.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)It comes with the territory.
The chemists Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons learned that decades ago, after they believed they had discovered a way to create nuclear fusion at room temperature.
It became a media frenzy and later disproven by other scientists who made more accurate measurements.
They were later mocked in the media and both of them left the country eventually.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Fleischmann
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Pons