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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:25 PM Jan 2021

"Accomplished" geophysicist was the guy dragging cop down stairs, put baton against officer's neck

A geophysicist from Colorado allegedly dragged a police officer down a set of stairs during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot — and then bought a plane ticket to Switzerland and attempted suicide in Westchester County in the days after the siege, it was revealed in court Friday.

Jeffrey Sabol, 51, was ordered held without bail at his initial court appearance in White Plains federal court, where a judge called the evidence against him “very disturbing and deeply troubling.”

“That conduct is beyond the pale,” Judge Andrew Krause said.

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Images also show Sabol holding a police baton against an officer’s neck during the siege, Assistant US Attorney Ben Gianforte said at the court proceeding Friday.

Prosecutors believe Sabol wrested the club away from another officer in the melee, which may result in additional charges being filed against him.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/another-suspected-capitol-rioter-surrenders-to-fbi-in-ny/

Sabol’s federal defender, who asked that he be released on a $200,000 bond, told Krause that Sabol spent a week in a psychiatric center receiving treatment after the riot.

Sabol’s lawyer also said the defendant is now stable.

The lawyer said Sabol’s work history is “second to none,” and that his most recent job was removing unexploded ordnance from federal land for a Colorado environmental company.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/capitol-riots-man-admits-dragging-cop-to-be-beaten-by-flag-pole.html

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"Accomplished" geophysicist was the guy dragging cop down stairs, put baton against officer's neck (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jan 2021 OP
I have not heard of a single one of these people who fits the "economically distressed" Squinch Jan 2021 #1
Sabol's work history is "second to none"... scarletwoman Jan 2021 #2
Anybody know his twitter hashtag? nt intrepidity Jan 2021 #3
Where is the unexploded ordinance? Arne Jan 2021 #4
Perhaps An Old Munitions Plant ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #11
Maybe this guy inhaled too much mercury or something similar. Cowards all, since they can't fess up SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #5
A sixteen year old boy was kept in riker's for 3 years UpInArms Jan 2021 #6
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #9
It's not that surprising to find scientists or engineers Midnightwalk Jan 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2021 #10
Not Consistent With My Experience ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #12
Fair enough Midnightwalk Jan 2021 #18
I haven't met as many people as you JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 2021 #23
We Agree On That Totally ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #24
So many branches of Science... electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #27
Most scientists have left the GOP ThoughtCriminal Jan 2021 #14
Yeah, I saw a survey from years ago which showed... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #19
I'm sure I'll get slammed for this, meadowlander Jan 2021 #25
Colorado mzmolly Jan 2021 #8
More from another article: Feds: Colorado Man In Capitol Attack Tried To Flee To Switzerland UpInArms Jan 2021 #13
Major flight risk. His lawyer even calls his suicide attempt the "ultimate flight attempt" ck4829 Jan 2021 #16
I just added UpInArms Jan 2021 #17
EdUcAtIoN WiLL SoLvE hAtE! WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #15
That second link is so confusing. cwydro Jan 2021 #20
Jeffrey Sabol needs to spend the rest of his career in federal prison. dalton99a Jan 2021 #21
I don't care if he cured cancer. Book em, Danno. yellowcanine Jan 2021 #22
Jeffrey Sabol identified in photo FakeNoose Jan 2021 #26
Yet, somehow still Brain Dead. Cha Jan 2021 #28

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
1. I have not heard of a single one of these people who fits the "economically distressed"
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jan 2021

stereotype that they want us to believe in.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
2. Sabol's work history is "second to none"...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:30 PM
Jan 2021

I don't understand how someone like that could be so deluded...

ProfessorGAC

(65,048 posts)
11. Perhaps An Old Munitions Plant
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

I moonlighted as a consultant during the decommissioning of an arsenal back in the 90s.
That area is now a national cemetery & protected prairie.
That could be it.
Also, lots of mining at one time.
Perhaps raw explosives still found in bunkers.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
5. Maybe this guy inhaled too much mercury or something similar. Cowards all, since they can't fess up
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jan 2021

when they are caught, or admit that yes, they did have a role in the riot, are sorry blah blah blah, etc. Aren't so tough now, are we now, eh, mr. sabol? And I do agree w/ your attorney's characterization of your work history (second to none), since you will never work again...nice, eh?

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
7. It's not that surprising to find scientists or engineers
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jan 2021

Involved in the insurrection.

Many are republicans for reasons I don’t understand. It’s easy to believe you’re smarter than other people in all areas because you are smart in one.

I think part of it is you have to think contrarian sometimes to find the hole or the idea that everyone else missed. It’s how you come with new ideas that work. It’s easy to forget that most times the idea is a dud.

You see it when geologists or biologists claim global warming is false. I think it’s even easier to fall into the trap with politics because it’s so much more subjective than science.

Or maybe I’m just spouting on something I don’t really know about.

Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #7)

ProfessorGAC

(65,048 posts)
12. Not Consistent With My Experience
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jan 2021

As a retired scientist, I've known hundreds, perhaps a thousand scientists & engineers.
I have found scientists tend to lean quite toward dems & and socially liberal ideas.
Engineers tend to be middle, or lean right, with a lot of libertarian tendencies. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. They run the spectrum, but with 1 being Nazi, & 10 being Marx, I'd put the median for scientists at 6.5-7 and engineers at 4-4.5
I'd put myself at 7.5-8.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
18. Fair enough
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jan 2021

I’m an engineer and agree with that portrayal. I work with some scientists and they are maybe 3-4 on that scale but it’s a small sample. I’ll accept your point.



23. I haven't met as many people as you
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jan 2021

But I’ve seen what you’ve described among my scientist vs engineer friends.

I chalk it up to the fundamental difference between science and engineering: with science, the goal is expansion of knowledge. Thinking outside of the box and the limits of our understanding.

With engineering, the focus is “given these constraints, how do you build a system?” I feel like the engineering mindset is conducive to a more rigid type of thinking, one that favors (perceived) stability at the expense of freedom. I blame the lack of liberal arts in an engineering curriculum.

ProfessorGAC

(65,048 posts)
24. We Agree On That Totally
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jan 2021

I share your reasoning completely.
My contacts are worldwide, and that lean left seems to be not just a US thing.
I've worked in 36 other countries, and find what we're talking about to be mostly true everywhere I've been.

electric_blue68

(14,903 posts)
27. So many branches of Science...
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 02:13 AM
Jan 2021

I'm an artist who also loves many of the Sciences.

May I ask what field you worked in?

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
14. Most scientists have left the GOP
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jan 2021

notable exceptions can be found in the petroleum and mining industries. I didn't look at the job history to see if this guy is in those categories.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
19. Yeah, I saw a survey from years ago which showed...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:23 PM
Jan 2021

... that only 6% of scientists were Republicans. Maybe from about a decade ago? It might be even fewer now.

Not sure if that was only a poll of PhD's.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
25. I'm sure I'll get slammed for this,
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:55 PM
Jan 2021

but a lot of scientists and engineers are also on the autistic spectrum and some people on the spectrum find it easy to fall down "research" rabbit-holes and difficult to climb back out of them. Having your brain wired to be fascinated with collecting the most arcane, complex information you can find and enjoying systematizing it in your head can lead you to be an expert in a STEM field but can just as easily make you susceptible to QAnon bullshit. People on the spectrum also tend to take things literally and have trouble working out when someone is being deceptive so they're more vulnerable to online bullshitters.

There's something about "here's an obscure and improbable fact that only you and I know is true" that's catnip to some people on the spectrum.

Not saying that that explains everyone who rioted on the 6th or that that's true of even the majority of autistic people but I do think it helps explain how someone could be a very well respected, well educated scientist or engineer and also come to believe complete crap at the same time.

mzmolly

(50,993 posts)
8. Colorado
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jan 2021

is a freak show. At least it was when I lived there. .. That said, I don't mean to offend those who are normal in the state.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
13. More from another article: Feds: Colorado Man In Capitol Attack Tried To Flee To Switzerland
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jan 2021
Gianforti said Sabol had offered investigators “self-serving statements” saying he was trying to protect the officer but had also “admitted to being in a fit of rage that day and that the details of the day were quote, ‘cloudy.'”

After the attack, the prosecutor said, Sabol booked a flight from Boston Logan International Airport to Zurich, Switzerland, where he would not be able to be extradited to the U.S.

Sabol’s lawyer, Jason Ser, argued for his client’s release on $200,000 bail, saying the man had steady employment for decades — Ser said Sabol’s job, in which he supervises other employees and contractors, involves removing unexploded ordnance from testing grounds for the military — and the support of family that includes a longtime girlfriend, an ex-wife, three children and parents.

He said video of the actions by his client were not as clear cut as they had been described by a prosecutor and noted that Sabol was currently charged only with civil disobedience charges that carry a potential maximum penalty of five years in prison.

He said his client was coherent, stable and cooperative with federal law enforcement authorities after he underwent treatment at a psychiatric facility for a week and spent several days at the Westchester Medical Center.

Both the judge and the prosecutor referenced Sabol’s suicide attempts in the wake of the attack, though Ser told pretrial services his client was no longer suicidal.

“I’m sorry for what Mr. Sabol has been through since he left the Capitol but I think, your honor, that his suicide attempts can be taken as consciousness of guilt and in some respect really the ultimate flight attempt,” Gianforti said. “This is a man who just can’t face the fact that he is facing a felony charge because of his actions on Jan. 6.”


https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/01/22/jeffrey-sabol-colorado-capitol-attack-riot-switzerland/

He is a flight risk ... no bail should be set

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
17. I just added
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jan 2021

This paragraph

Gianforti said Sabol had offered investigators “self-serving statements” saying he was trying to protect the officer but had also “admitted to being in a fit of rage that day and that the details of the day were quote, ‘cloudy.'”
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