POTUS ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC 22m
People must understand the depth of what’s happening here: the President of the United States has ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply.

There’s no reforming this rogue dept. It’s time for a new, just vision. #FreeMariana & #AbolishICE

Ayanna Pressley @AyannaPressley
URGENT @JoeBiden halted all deportations but @ICEgov is trying to deport Mariana right now. After more than 21 months in ICE custody, separated from her babies & with an asylum appeal pending. The cruelty is endless. We are fighting for her. Share her story. #FreeMariana

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[triron]

1. How about the DOJ start arresting some of these loons?

[TwilightZone]

2. A judge blocked the freeze.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-26/federal-judge-blocks-bidens-100-day-deportation-freeze

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19. those agents work for the federal government

...not the judge.

I fail to see how this judge can allow these deportations, as if he's the one in charge of immigration. it's a federal agency who carries those deportations out.

He has no right to tie the President's hands, and he can't enforce Trump's order that he consult w/ the Texas AG, who has no right to second-guess the president's decision.

Justice Department lawyers representing the Biden administration have argued that Texas had not shown that it was harmed by the moratorium and called the legal agreement the Trump administration signed with Texas “invalid” and “unenforceable.”

“The federal government has plenary power over the enforcement of federal immigration law and an outgoing administration cannot contract away that power for an incoming administration,” Justice Department lawyers wrote in a filing Sunday.
https://elmoudjaweb.com/federal-judge-temporarily-blocks-bidens-deportation-moratorium-jaweb/

[TwilightZone]

24. Well, no.

Judges rule on issues all the time. Their rulings stand until they're overturned on appeal or superseded by legislation or until they expire. That's how the process works.

For example, judges aren't in charge of abortions, yet they rule on state laws rather frequently, correct?

Those rulings clearly stand until overturned or new legislation is passed. The employment status of those involved is irrelevant.

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25. but the judge can't force ICE to deport anyone, isn't forcing them

...the ruling doesn't order that.

good thread on that order:

Link to tweet

[still_one]

3. Can people be fired for cause on this?

[Kaleva]

8. No. A federal judge blocked the order for 14 days.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Alas, a federal judge in Texas put a hold on that order. No fan of ICE, but argue that it...

is inhuman, not illegal.

Soon enough it should be illegal.

[intheflow]

10. That's some soulless fucking hair splitting.

Treating someone inhumanely is a form of violence.

[TreasonousBastard]

17. Of course it is. And after all the soul searching and international exposes after WWII...

it appears to be on the upswing again.

Even worse is that we are doing it after leading the charge against it.

[triron]

30. With the eager help of the republican party.

[Liberty Belle]

14. How fast can Biden's administration appeal? Or can Congress pass a law ASAP to protect these people?

[TreasonousBastard]

15. Fast, but its a temporary hold, so who knows?

[questionseverything]

5. So who goes in to arrest the idiot defying orders from the cic

?

[Kaleva]

9. Can't arrest anyone for obeying the law.

A federal judge blocked Biden's order for the next 14 days.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Fire every single one of those goat fuckers in leadership. Then establish

some decent minimum recruitment standards for the rest.

[StClone]

7. Could we deport the judge and all the ICY agents.

Just asking.

[OAITW r.2.0]

11. Burn it down.

ICE was always a place where rascists could find a home in our government. Start over. I'd put Beto O'Rouke in there to clean house, totally.

[Deuxcents]

12. Yes..get er done

And Beto is a good choice. Don’t wait 14 days..

[Liberty Belle]

13. Construction of border wall is continuing in Jacumba, CA area - a resident posted today on FB.

Sounds like Biden needs to clean house at those agencies and ask whoever is responsible to repay taxpayers for the money spent on a section of wall that shouldn't have been built.

The continuing deportations is heartless and horrifying.

[FelineOverlord]

16. POTUS ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply

This happened today. Paxton needs to go to prison already. Should have been there years ago.

Link to tweet

[WHITT]

22. Ass Backwards Ruling

TROs are generally issued to PREVENT something that could cause harm or cause irreversible damage in the interim. This is exactly the opposite.

A fascist ruling from a judge appointed by a fascist regime.

[BlueIdaho]

18. Regardless of any judges decision...

Is it any wonder we have been arguing for the end of ICE for four years? This fucking fascist agency needs to be destroyed.

[FelineOverlord]

20. Abolish Ice

They need to go.

[BlueIdaho]

21. Exactly.

[ananda]

23. Susan Rice said ICE was not covered in the order..

only the DOJ.

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26. I think she was referring to the EO on prisons

...saying that the order doesn't apply to ICE facilities.

Ms Rice then confirmed that the federal government’s new policy only applied to Department of Justice contracts with private prisons and not those housing undocumented immigrants facing deportation.

Therefore it does not impact those prisons contracted with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Department of Homeland Security.

“In this instance it is not applicable to those run by other agencies,” said Ms Rice.

The use of private prisons to detain immigrants expanded under Donald Trump, with at least 24 facilities and more than 17,000 beds added during the former president’s administration.

“It addresses the Department of Justice prisons in the first instance, it is silent on what may or may not transpire with ICE facilities,” added Ms Rice when pushed on the issue.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-private-prisons-susan-rice-b1793046.html

[Lonestarblue]

27. ICE needs to be disbanded, and a new border patrol established.

Trump created a force for evil, and they may not readily change course. The whole Dept. of Homeland Security needs an overhaul, but the first place to start is with ICE.

[Demsrule86]

28. A judge has blocked the order...Texas sued.

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31. that temporary hold on the WH directive doesn't include deporting anyone

...doesn't compel the federal government agency to deport anyone.

The judge doesn't have some independent way to deport people. That's done soley by the DHS.

ICE has no independent authority to subvert the president's wishes, much less his EO.

I'm not even sure deportations came up in the hearing. The emphasis from the judge was on the people ICE had released.

[rickyhall]

29. I'm thinking maybe racists shouldn't work for ICE.