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applegrove

(118,814 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 11:58 PM Jan 2021

Libertarians are saying some who started BLM were communists. So

were some who germinated the New Deal ideas. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Extremes often come up with new ideas. BLM has accomplished so much. It was started and grew thanks to the hopes and dreams of many. It is a threat to the right as it makes room for politicians to do good legislation. It gives kids wings. It brought americans together as opposed to the divisions Republicans rely on. Of course they are going to call it communist. Most people in the world want to cooperate to do good things like making sure authorities value lives the same. Don't fall for the communist slur like some did in the 2020 election. What Biden is doing is governance. What BLM did was bring us together.

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Libertarians are saying some who started BLM were communists. So (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2021 OP
Didn't they say Martin Luther and the civil rights movement were backed by communists? Karadeniz Jan 2021 #1
Probably. I was just a kid then. Have not read up on it. applegrove Jan 2021 #3
I was in China a few times over the past 25 years. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #4
I know!!! Trumpers probably haven't heard that the ussr broke up! Karadeniz Jan 2021 #6
It is just a trope to put on Democratic policy by Republicans and seemed to work well applegrove Jan 2021 #7
Cuban-Americans in Florida are very conservative JonLP24 Jan 2021 #14
Commies against racism and murder... eeek. KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #2
Libertarians attacking BLM for a possible few "maybe" having Communist ideas. LOL StClone Jan 2021 #5
Here is what Biden did today: applegrove Jan 2021 #8
When they say communist they usually mean black or some other minority in the US JI7 Jan 2021 #9
"Communist" has been the right wing squeal since before FDR. It means nothing, Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
But people formerly or with family in latin america do. Biden needs to get on that. applegrove Jan 2021 #12
You make a great point. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #19
They pretend they think everything they don't like is communism. Crunchy Frog Jan 2021 #10
I don't think they were ever communists JonLP24 Jan 2021 #13
Maybe. But people will think communism when they hear the word "marxists". applegrove Jan 2021 #15
There are a lot of Republicans who think Kamala Harris is a communist JonLP24 Jan 2021 #16
They obviously believe it will work on more people. Trump has a ceiling. So does applegrove Jan 2021 #17
Volkswagen was started by nazis who also used IBM early computers to facilitate the Holocaust... ck4829 Jan 2021 #18
They always say this.... LeftInTX Jan 2021 #20
The Bolshevik revolution terrified the plutocrats of post WWI. halfulglas Jan 2021 #21

OAITW r.2.0

(24,641 posts)
4. I was in China a few times over the past 25 years.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:11 AM
Jan 2021

My company had a bar in Zhongshan started back in the 90's. Everyone I met wanted to 1) practice their English and 2) try to market them-self, an idea, or a company. Capitalists, all. Where are all the Communists that Republicans are afraid of?*











*just kidding

applegrove

(118,814 posts)
7. It is just a trope to put on Democratic policy by Republicans and seemed to work well
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jan 2021

on latin-x voters in Florida among many across the country in 2020. Trump is stuck at 46 or 47% nationally and they need to peel off some people who greatly admired BLM suddenly last Spring when the treatment AA received at the hands of some police could no longer be denied and so many came together. So many came together and liked being together. That is the greatest fear of the right.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. Cuban-Americans in Florida are very conservative
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:24 AM
Jan 2021

I think it is a lost cause to try to reach out to them. If you remember they were very angry with Bill Clinton at the end of his term.

They tend to have false beliefs on BLM. The Cuban talk radio in Miami is very conservative.

Mexican-Americans here in Arizona hate Trump which is a state Biden won.

KentuckyWoman

(6,697 posts)
2. Commies against racism and murder... eeek.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:02 AM
Jan 2021

Well if being against racism makes someone a commie... just call me a pinko....

Sheesh.

StClone

(11,688 posts)
5. Libertarians attacking BLM for a possible few "maybe" having Communist ideas. LOL
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:12 AM
Jan 2021

Is richly deserving some award. A shark calling a puppy dangerous type straining of credulity.


Libertarianism's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad ideas. It goes like this:

Simply stated, the idea holds that when groups of individuals are left alone, without government oversight or regulation, they will spontaneously form a social and economic order that is superior in organization, efficiency, and the conveyance of information than an order arranged from the top down through centralized planning.


https://theweek.com/articles/443462/libertarianisms-terrible-horrible-no-good-bad-idea

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
11. "Communist" has been the right wing squeal since before FDR. It means nothing,
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:09 AM
Jan 2021

except to the morons doing the squealing and shrieking.

Most in the GOP base wouldn't know what a "communist" is.

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
10. They pretend they think everything they don't like is communism.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:04 AM
Jan 2021

Why would anyone here fall for that crap?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. I don't think they were ever communists
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:21 AM
Jan 2021

Some of the organizers called themselves "trained Marxists" but I don't think that is communist. Most countries are in between and not as capitalist as the US.

BLM was started under Obama after the killings of Trayvon Martin & Michael Brown. They have been pretty consistent in their demands.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. There are a lot of Republicans who think Kamala Harris is a communist
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:28 AM
Jan 2021

The propaganda has rotted their brains. They don't trust the MSM so they turn to OAN or Newsmax TV. They even stopped watching Fox News because they called Arizona for Joe Biden. Many don't even believe Biden won the election.

applegrove

(118,814 posts)
17. They obviously believe it will work on more people. Trump has a ceiling. So does
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:35 AM
Jan 2021

right wing extremism. People enjoying a country that strives to be inclusive and vibrant are not people seathing and ready to seath somemore.

ck4829

(35,091 posts)
18. Volkswagen was started by nazis who also used IBM early computers to facilitate the Holocaust...
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:39 AM
Jan 2021

And slave owners took out insurance on their slaves.

So they better have some interesting opinions on those three things too.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
21. The Bolshevik revolution terrified the plutocrats of post WWI.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:47 AM
Jan 2021

It's kind of funny in a way, the twists in time. They were terrified of the Bolsheviks and saw nothing wrong with Czarist Russia. They were afraid that if it succeeded the movement would spread. FDR terrified them and they fought bitterly against him. Anybody who told them how to treat their workers was a communist to them. Anybody putting any controls on their money had to be communist. Then came WWII and the enemy of my enemy was my friend. Russia was our ally. Russia took terrible losses in the war. More than any other nation. After that people like McCarthy and other right wingers came along and demonized those who had worked with a nation that had been our ally. While shamelessly making a name for himself he made pariahs of people on heresay, anything for another headline. He even tried to demonize Gen. George Marshall. RWs still thrive on division and hate.

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