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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:24 PM Jan 2012

Study: Women Ask For Raises And Promotions As Often As Men, But Get Less In Return

It’s a common trope that women in the workplace don’t advance as quickly or make as much as their male counterparts because they simply don’t ask for raises and promotions. But according to new research published today in the Washington Post, this is a myth — women do ask, they just don’t get as much in return:

The research focused on career paths of high-potential men and women, drawing on thousands of MBA graduates from top schools around the world. Catalyst found that, among those who had moved on from their first post-MBA job, there was no significant difference in the proportion of women and men who asked for increased compensation or a higher position.

Yet the rewards were different.

Women who initiated such conversations and changed jobs post MBA experienced slower compensation growth than the women who stayed put. For men, on the other hand, it paid off to change jobs and negotiate for higher salaries—they earned more than men who stayed did. And we saw that as both men’s and women’s careers progress, the gender gap in level and pay gets even wider.

Catalyst’s research debunks the myth that women themselves are to blame for the gender gap in the workplace. As the Catalyst authors put it, “If women are asking, but are still not advancing as quickly, maybe we need to frame things differently.”

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/01/10/401419/study-women-raises/

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Study: Women Ask For Raises And Promotions As Often As Men, But Get Less In Return (Original Post) one_voice Jan 2012 OP
I think it depends on whether they took time out to have kids. ddeclue Jan 2012 #1
In mye xperience, it doesn't. The women I've worked with usually did not have children SharonAnn Jan 2012 #3
that's anecdotal... I'm referring to the study. nt ddeclue Jan 2012 #4
it took a study to figure that out? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #2
 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
1. I think it depends on whether they took time out to have kids.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jan 2012

Women without kids tend to make nearly the same as their male counterparts:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/JobClub/study-shows-childless-women-succeed-mothers-worplace/story?id=11448102

More women go to graduate school now than men and the gap is closing for educated career women. If you have kids and take five years out of your career though you get left behind is what is going on. Also when you have kids you are more likely to be stuck in one place and unable to move about to take advantage of career opportunities.

SharonAnn

(13,781 posts)
3. In mye xperience, it doesn't. The women I've worked with usually did not have children
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jan 2012

and it made no difference.

As on of the first women in management in the company, 10 years after most men were promoted to manager, when I left the position I was asked to identify potential candidates to replace me.

I identified a dozen women, well known and respected, and a gay person. The response was "That's terrific! We never thought of them!" I believe it showed that the men making the decision could look around and they just didn't "see" women and minorities.

They just didn't "see" them, but when they were pointed out, there was agreement that they were probably qualified.

It's still a big problem. I suppose it's somewhat better but it's discouraging that after all these years it's still a big problem.

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