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Tiffany Cross (Original Post) Joedog Jan 2021 OP
I disagree. Her point was that everyone knew Trump was a piece of shit WAY before... Dennis Donovan Jan 2021 #1
+1, this OP sounds like another process before principle post where an overtly opportunistic person uponit7771 Jan 2021 #14
LOL..I think she eviscerated him! Did you see that "pout of butt-hurt" on his face when bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #2
Scarramucci is a reasonable Joedog Jan 2021 #6
"Scarramucci is a reasonable" this has not been proven, he's sounds like an oppurtunist especially uponit7771 Jan 2021 #20
Scar is a complete egomaniac, totally apart from his political views. She's smart enough bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #30
I thought she did an excellent job StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #3
+1, it was Scar who was doing the "talking over" trying to bullshit his way through sanitization... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #13
Some people are uncomfortable when women - especially black women - don't allow white people - StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #18
+1, She suffer no fools !! ... She's showing the contrast on policing right now, I'm loving the uponit7771 Jan 2021 #22
A fun watch! Democrats Ascendant Jan 2021 #4
I like a little bit shade when deserved, but the interview developed into a petty mess all around. demmiblue Jan 2021 #5
Zerlina is much more knowledgeable Joedog Jan 2021 #7
The greatest threat this country faces Joedog Jan 2021 #11
Being "needed" doesn't mean being allowed to get away with revisionist BS StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #26
His name is Anthony, not Steve. tblue37 Jan 2021 #49
The "mess" wasn't her doing, it was Scars knowing there's a delay and trying to sanitize his past by uponit7771 Jan 2021 #27
Scarramucci is an ass. Who cares what he says. Firestorm49 Jan 2021 #8
He is a Wall Street republican not Joedog Jan 2021 #16
He is a Wall Street republican not Joedog Jan 2021 #17
He would still be right up Trump's butt if he hadn't shot off his mouth and gotten himself fired. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #21
She pointed out that he was a Trumper before he wasn't. mackdaddy Jan 2021 #9
from what little I witnessed.... quickesst Jan 2021 #10
BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! She went in on him and wouldn't let him bullshit with "I didn't know" when it uponit7771 Jan 2021 #12
My feelings are mixed. Reason confronted my impulse to take no prisoners. ariadne0614 Jan 2021 #15
It's not her job to "advance the cause of avoiding the next civil war" StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #24
It wasn't my intention to imply she's responsible for advancing the cause. ariadne0614 Jan 2021 #38
I'm over worrying about alienating "potential allies" StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #39
Your line has been indelibly drawn. So noted. ariadne0614 Jan 2021 #42
I'm just saying that hosts Joedog Jan 2021 #46
I have seen Scarramucci interviewed Joedog Jan 2021 #25
He can be an ally and not bullshit people at the same time which is what he was doing by saying ... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #28
"Clumsiness" StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #33
Anthony and republicans knew what Trump was. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #19
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 She gave Scar ... 2 opportunities ... to stop bullshitting with an ignorance ... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #23
The important thing is Joedog Jan 2021 #31
They're making excuses for him and for themselves. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #32
Scarramuci isn't. He rips Trump at Joedog Jan 2021 #35
He does that StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #37
Well he was basically trying to say no one could know how trump would be. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #54
Lots of people actually thought Joedog Jan 2021 #29
Lots of people thought that, but they didn't dive in headfirst and shill for him for money, fame and StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #34
If that's the case, then why did 12 million additional voters see what he did bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #36
Sometimes you have to Joedog Jan 2021 #40
Who's not "accepting" him? But acceptance doesn't mean a free ride or that we ignore his history StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #45
No he doesn't. Trump treated him like a piece of shit. That causes most people to turn away. Joedog Jan 2021 #50
OK seriously, who the fuck is Steve Scaramucci? And why is he Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2021 #41
Former communications director Joedog Jan 2021 #43
Anthony Scaramucci? Oh yeah......fuck that guy! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2021 #44
Anthony Scaramucci? tblue37 Jan 2021 #47
Agree. I listened for only a minute and then switched channels. highplainsdem Jan 2021 #48
No, he was incredibly rude to her. milestogo Jan 2021 #51
He was trying to make Joedog Jan 2021 #52
She did a great job, IMO ecstatic Jan 2021 #53
His response to the interview: demmiblue Jan 2021 #55
I didn't watch her this morning, but I've noticed her doing this with just about all of her guests msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #56

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. I disagree. Her point was that everyone knew Trump was a piece of shit WAY before...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jan 2021

...2016, yet Scaramucci still held on as a supporter *and employee* well into 2017. She's 100% right.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
14. +1, this OP sounds like another process before principle post where an overtly opportunistic person
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jan 2021

... tries to value themselves based off the knowledge of those 74 million vs their knowledge of how to reach other 40 million democrats.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. LOL..I think she eviscerated him! Did you see that "pout of butt-hurt" on his face when
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jan 2021

she was wrapping up the interview segment?

Joedog

(718 posts)
6. Scarramucci is a reasonable
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:50 AM
Jan 2021

Lincoln Project type republican who represents a large segment of the party that we need to keep Trump out. I disagree with the stance that if you started out supporting Trump and got out you are still a dumb ass for ever supporting him. We need to embrace those folks

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
20. "Scarramucci is a reasonable" this has not been proven, he's sounds like an oppurtunist especially
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

... with the "I didn't know ..." bullshit when it comes to Trumps overt racism etc.

No, he needs a better reason than "I didn't know..." cause like she said when she gave him a second chance to explain himself that ... EVERYONE ... knew he was a piece of crap during the 16 election.

Also,

We need to turn to the 40 million who don't vote more than the 74 million who saw Trumps bullshit and will continue to vote Republican.

There are more voters with the suppressed than with MAGA Minions no doubt

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
30. Scar is a complete egomaniac, totally apart from his political views. She's smart enough
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:33 PM
Jan 2021

to know that's a weak spot of his, and she zoned right in on that, just like Luke Skywalker's attack on the "Death Star"...LOL! He was genuinely pissed off by that deflation, but she knew that his love for attention will produce many more future opportunities for him to humiliate himself in front of the camera...

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. I thought she did an excellent job
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jan 2021

He tried to talk over her, wouldn't let her get her questions out, tried to interrogate her, played victim, accused her of "high moral sanctimony," pretended that his fervent support for Trump was no big deal at the time.

She didn't let him get away with that. It was good to see a black woman show such confidence and control of her own show.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
13. +1, it was Scar who was doing the "talking over" trying to bullshit his way through sanitization...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:10 PM
Jan 2021

... with the "I didn't know" about Trump.

I think we'll see more of this "... don't be so hard on them ..." crap going forward, Cross did the right thing.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
18. Some people are uncomfortable when women - especially black women - don't allow white people -
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jan 2021

especially white men - to walk all over us. When we push back it is WE who are accused of being out of line.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
22. +1, She suffer no fools !! ... She's showing the contrast on policing right now, I'm loving the
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:20 PM
Jan 2021

... fact she speaks truth to America more and more on her show.

The country needs her right now, we need a truth getter

4. A fun watch!
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

Thanks for posting this; I caught it and was thinking about how to bring it up here.

So, I think she's a terrible interviewer who usually overstates facts and wish Zerlina had gotten this spot instead, but I have got to give it Tiffany for pissing "The Mooch" off. He really does love a camera and is such a naked political opportunist, as she called him out on. Glad she wasn't letting him whitewash (double meanings intended) his past.

Joedog

(718 posts)
11. The greatest threat this country faces
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jan 2021

are the Marjorie Taylor Greene's of the world and Trump. The Steve Scarramucci's of the world are much needed along with other non radical republicans to get this done.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
27. The "mess" wasn't her doing, it was Scars knowing there's a delay and trying to sanitize his past by
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jan 2021

... saying "he didn't know ... " about Trump and she gave him two chances to fix that bullshit and Scar went butt hurt.

He ... DID ... know that Red Don was a piece of shit before 16 or he should've known.

Firestorm49

(4,036 posts)
8. Scarramucci is an ass. Who cares what he says.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jan 2021

He was a prick in his few weeks in office, yet is now a source for reference?

No thanks. I didn’t respect him before nor will I ever.

Joedog

(718 posts)
16. He is a Wall Street republican not
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jan 2021

a conspiracy theory embracing Quinol touting moron. There is a place in the Democratic Party for people like him.

Joedog

(718 posts)
17. He is a Wall Street republican not
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jan 2021

a conspiracy theory embracing Quinol touting moron. There is a place in the Democratic Party for people like him.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
21. He would still be right up Trump's butt if he hadn't shot off his mouth and gotten himself fired.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

I'm glad he's out here pushing the message against Trump. But he's not some kind of a hero for doing it. He had no other choice after Trump kicked him to the curb.

mackdaddy

(1,528 posts)
9. She pointed out that he was a Trumper before he wasn't.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jan 2021

She asked how he was de-programed.

His answer was that he was never full MAGA, he just played one on TV, hoping Trump would get better.

The roaches don't like it when people shine a light on them.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
10. from what little I witnessed....
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jan 2021

.... I pretty much saw it the way you did. But hey, that's the beauty of democracy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
12. BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! She went in on him and wouldn't let him bullshit with "I didn't know" when it
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jan 2021

... came to his knowledge of Red Don's horridness.

No, fuck that ... I saw that segment and couldn't care less about Scars need to sanitize himself with bullshit

ariadne0614

(1,733 posts)
15. My feelings are mixed. Reason confronted my impulse to take no prisoners.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, she "owned him," but how did her approach advance the cause of avoiding the next civil war? It might have been helpful to hear his thoughts on finding an off-ramp for whatever percentage of Republican voters might have second thoughts about sticking with the mindless mob. As much as I admire her intelligence and spunky fearlessness, I was uncomfortable with the way she handled this one.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
24. It's not her job to "advance the cause of avoiding the next civil war"
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
Jan 2021

She's a journalist who didn't let an interviewing get away with his BS.

He's been talking for a couple of years about this and hasn't come up with some magical plan for getting Republican voters to stop knowingly voting for racists. He always just explains away his own complicity and then says Democrats need to find ways to "reach out" to Trump supporters and offers nothing new beyond that.

I think that if instead of Tiffany, this had been Ali Velshi or Anderson Cooper doing the same thing, people would be raving about how great they were at not letting Scaramucci get away with his schtick.

ariadne0614

(1,733 posts)
38. It wasn't my intention to imply she's responsible for advancing the cause.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

I was directing the question to anyone who cares to consider the cost of goading/alienating potential allies in these perilous times. Maybe Scaramucci deserves nothing more than utter contempt, but we still need to find a way out of this mess. To repeat, my feelings are mixed.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
39. I'm over worrying about alienating "potential allies"
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jan 2021

I don't consider anyone who is still supporting Trump to be a potential ally. If at this point in time, after all they've seen and heard, they are still on the Trump/GOP train, there is nothing that we can say or do that's going to change their minds at this point - they need to just stay where they are and we need to stop wasting precious time and resources on them.

If, as we are focusing on people we want to attract and empower, those people, hear and see what we're saying and doing and change their minds and want to come with us, great. But we need to stop making them the center of our efforts and focus instead on people who aren't perfectly happy supporting insurrectionists who want to destroy us.

ariadne0614

(1,733 posts)
42. Your line has been indelibly drawn. So noted.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jan 2021

Mine is on a close parallel with yours, with occasional brief pauses for further reflection.

Joedog

(718 posts)
46. I'm just saying that hosts
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:04 PM
Jan 2021

From Joy Reid to Lawrence O'Donnell to Chris Cuomo were more gracious and better organized than Cross. People who turned against Trump and supported Biden deserved to be treated better.

Joedog

(718 posts)
25. I have seen Scarramucci interviewed
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jan 2021

by countless anchors and he is treated like a valuable ally which he is. Cross's clumsiness doesn't help a bit

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
28. He can be an ally and not bullshit people at the same time which is what he was doing by saying ...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jan 2021

... he didn't know about Trump, she gave him 2 times to fix that shit and he went butt hurt and talked over her.

Bullshit is not a healing element and Scar had tons of it this morning.

onecaliberal

(32,878 posts)
19. Anthony and republicans knew what Trump was.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

Access Hollywood take was released before the election. He called Mexicans rapists before the election. He made fun of a disabled reporter before the election. Republicans want to rehabilitate their images. They need to be thrown out with the rest of the Republican trash. Tiffany called him on it. I applaud her greatly.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
23. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 She gave Scar ... 2 opportunities ... to stop bullshitting with an ignorance ...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jan 2021

... excuse and he went butt hurt vs progressive.

Naw, this is why some people wont change ... they think they did little wrong.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
37. He does that
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jan 2021

But completely dismisses his own responsibility for helping to get Trump where he is.

It's nice that he rips Trump. But it's not like it's a particularly brave, Profile in Courage act on his part. What else was he going to do after Trump unceremoniously kicked him off the Trump train?

onecaliberal

(32,878 posts)
54. Well he was basically trying to say no one could know how trump would be.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 03:49 PM
Jan 2021

Come on now. We all knew. And I will add that even though I knew it would be really bad. It was exponentially worse than I could have ever imagined.

Joedog

(718 posts)
29. Lots of people actually thought
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:31 PM
Jan 2021

that Trump might actually grow into the role. Once they saw that he was totally inept and hopelessly delusional they left him. I've heard Obama say he held out hope for that. We need to cut off support for Trump at every opportunity.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
34. Lots of people thought that, but they didn't dive in headfirst and shill for him for money, fame and
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jan 2021

power. Obama may have "held out hope" but he never once stopped warning us how dangerous this man was.

People like Scaramucci jumped on the Trump train and rode it for all they could until they got kicked off and then hitched a ride on another train. I don't mind him riding on our train, but that doesn't mean he gets to drive it and certainly doesn't mean we have to treat him with kid gloves.

And you can bet that the minute he finds a train he thinks will get him where he wants to go faster, he's going to hop right off and chase that one.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
36. If that's the case, then why did 12 million additional voters see what he did
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jan 2021

over 4 years in office, and said "I WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF THIS!!!"

Joedog

(718 posts)
40. Sometimes you have to
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Swallow hard and accept the Anthony Scarramuccis in order to ward off the eventuality that we might get Trump for four more years.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
45. Who's not "accepting" him? But acceptance doesn't mean a free ride or that we ignore his history
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:44 PM
Jan 2021

He has to own it and stop pretending his support of Trump was no big deal or an innocent mistake.

He likes to present himself as a savvy, keen-eyed operator/observer. But when it comes to his support for Trump, suddenly he wants everyone to believe he was just Boo Boo the Fool. He can't have it both ways. If he wants to be taken seriously as an analyst whom people should pay attention to, he can't pretend his support for Trump was an innocent mistake. He made a calculated choices to support Trump and it wasn't because he was stupid or had been fooled. He knew just what he was doing. And when it no longer worked to his advantage, he moved in a different direction.

Joedog

(718 posts)
50. No he doesn't. Trump treated him like a piece of shit. That causes most people to turn away.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jan 2021

Now if he wants to come over and bring his friends with him that's all the better. But we can't expect those people to beat themselves up for supporting the wrong guy. People have been doing that in this country since the early 1800's

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
41. OK seriously, who the fuck is Steve Scaramucci? And why is he
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jan 2021

is he bringing out all these strong feelings?

Joedog

(718 posts)
43. Former communications director
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

for Trump who Trump fired at the urging of Chief of Staff Kelly. He now is totally anti Trump

Joedog

(718 posts)
52. He was trying to make
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

A really important point about the more reasonable faction of republicans moving away from Trump and she wouldn't let him.

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
53. She did a great job, IMO
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

First of all, I was laughing my ass off at the way she introduced him. A lot of interviewers have featured him on their show, but Tiffany is the first host to hold him accountable. Scaramucci is a smart, incredibly articulate guy, but it's obvious to me that he's an amoral opportunist / grifter.

That being said, I can acknowledge that he is a gifted communicator and I don't rule out the possibility that he might have some insight on how to communicate with some portion of the 74 million people who (supposedly) voted for trump.

But he's not someone we can place our trust in.

Just my opinion.

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msfiddlestix

(7,284 posts)
56. I didn't watch her this morning, but I've noticed her doing this with just about all of her guests
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jan 2021

I watched her show last week, and it reminded me of Tweety Bird, constantly interrputing suggestion she's out of time, but yet keeps on repeating a previously stated point over and over again, using up the little time the guest has no time for.

Ari Melber does this quite often, and I find it very annoying. Rachel, Brian, Joy Reid and a few others are much more disciplined or just not inclined to be disruptive generally speaking. Rachel made a rare unnecessary disruption with a guest last night on top of an important point while answering a question. Again, she doesn't seem to conduct herself that way as a rule. But Tiffany Cross needs to be checked on this habit, and if she could be open to be made aware of it, and learn to check herself.. I will start listening to her show again.




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