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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTiffany Cross
Did not do a very good job interviewing Steve Scarramucci just now. Talked over him and never gave him a chance to explain his stance on how non radical republicans can be attracted away from Trump.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...2016, yet Scaramucci still held on as a supporter *and employee* well into 2017. She's 100% right.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... tries to value themselves based off the knowledge of those 74 million vs their knowledge of how to reach other 40 million democrats.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)she was wrapping up the interview segment?
Joedog
(718 posts)Lincoln Project type republican who represents a large segment of the party that we need to keep Trump out. I disagree with the stance that if you started out supporting Trump and got out you are still a dumb ass for ever supporting him. We need to embrace those folks
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... with the "I didn't know ..." bullshit when it comes to Trumps overt racism etc.
No, he needs a better reason than "I didn't know..." cause like she said when she gave him a second chance to explain himself that ... EVERYONE ... knew he was a piece of crap during the 16 election.
Also,
We need to turn to the 40 million who don't vote more than the 74 million who saw Trumps bullshit and will continue to vote Republican.
There are more voters with the suppressed than with MAGA Minions no doubt
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)to know that's a weak spot of his, and she zoned right in on that, just like Luke Skywalker's attack on the "Death Star"...LOL! He was genuinely pissed off by that deflation, but she knew that his love for attention will produce many more future opportunities for him to humiliate himself in front of the camera...
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)He tried to talk over her, wouldn't let her get her questions out, tried to interrogate her, played victim, accused her of "high moral sanctimony," pretended that his fervent support for Trump was no big deal at the time.
She didn't let him get away with that. It was good to see a black woman show such confidence and control of her own show.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... with the "I didn't know" about Trump.
I think we'll see more of this "... don't be so hard on them ..." crap going forward, Cross did the right thing.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)especially white men - to walk all over us. When we push back it is WE who are accused of being out of line.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... fact she speaks truth to America more and more on her show.
The country needs her right now, we need a truth getter
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)Thanks for posting this; I caught it and was thinking about how to bring it up here.
So, I think she's a terrible interviewer who usually overstates facts and wish Zerlina had gotten this spot instead, but I have got to give it Tiffany for pissing "The Mooch" off. He really does love a camera and is such a naked political opportunist, as she called him out on. Glad she wasn't letting him whitewash (double meanings intended) his past.
demmiblue
(36,873 posts)Joedog
(718 posts)and a far better interviewer.
Joedog
(718 posts)are the Marjorie Taylor Greene's of the world and Trump. The Steve Scarramucci's of the world are much needed along with other non radical republicans to get this done.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)tblue37
(65,458 posts)uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... saying "he didn't know ... " about Trump and she gave him two chances to fix that bullshit and Scar went butt hurt.
He ... DID ... know that Red Don was a piece of shit before 16 or he should've known.
Firestorm49
(4,036 posts)He was a prick in his few weeks in office, yet is now a source for reference?
No thanks. I didnt respect him before nor will I ever.
Joedog
(718 posts)a conspiracy theory embracing Quinol touting moron. There is a place in the Democratic Party for people like him.
Joedog
(718 posts)a conspiracy theory embracing Quinol touting moron. There is a place in the Democratic Party for people like him.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I'm glad he's out here pushing the message against Trump. But he's not some kind of a hero for doing it. He had no other choice after Trump kicked him to the curb.
mackdaddy
(1,528 posts)She asked how he was de-programed.
His answer was that he was never full MAGA, he just played one on TV, hoping Trump would get better.
The roaches don't like it when people shine a light on them.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... I pretty much saw it the way you did. But hey, that's the beauty of democracy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... came to his knowledge of Red Don's horridness.
No, fuck that ... I saw that segment and couldn't care less about Scars need to sanitize himself with bullshit
ariadne0614
(1,733 posts)Yes, she "owned him," but how did her approach advance the cause of avoiding the next civil war? It might have been helpful to hear his thoughts on finding an off-ramp for whatever percentage of Republican voters might have second thoughts about sticking with the mindless mob. As much as I admire her intelligence and spunky fearlessness, I was uncomfortable with the way she handled this one.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)She's a journalist who didn't let an interviewing get away with his BS.
He's been talking for a couple of years about this and hasn't come up with some magical plan for getting Republican voters to stop knowingly voting for racists. He always just explains away his own complicity and then says Democrats need to find ways to "reach out" to Trump supporters and offers nothing new beyond that.
I think that if instead of Tiffany, this had been Ali Velshi or Anderson Cooper doing the same thing, people would be raving about how great they were at not letting Scaramucci get away with his schtick.
ariadne0614
(1,733 posts)I was directing the question to anyone who cares to consider the cost of goading/alienating potential allies in these perilous times. Maybe Scaramucci deserves nothing more than utter contempt, but we still need to find a way out of this mess. To repeat, my feelings are mixed.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I don't consider anyone who is still supporting Trump to be a potential ally. If at this point in time, after all they've seen and heard, they are still on the Trump/GOP train, there is nothing that we can say or do that's going to change their minds at this point - they need to just stay where they are and we need to stop wasting precious time and resources on them.
If, as we are focusing on people we want to attract and empower, those people, hear and see what we're saying and doing and change their minds and want to come with us, great. But we need to stop making them the center of our efforts and focus instead on people who aren't perfectly happy supporting insurrectionists who want to destroy us.
ariadne0614
(1,733 posts)Mine is on a close parallel with yours, with occasional brief pauses for further reflection.
Joedog
(718 posts)From Joy Reid to Lawrence O'Donnell to Chris Cuomo were more gracious and better organized than Cross. People who turned against Trump and supported Biden deserved to be treated better.
Joedog
(718 posts)by countless anchors and he is treated like a valuable ally which he is. Cross's clumsiness doesn't help a bit
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... he didn't know about Trump, she gave him 2 times to fix that shit and he went butt hurt and talked over her.
Bullshit is not a healing element and Scar had tons of it this morning.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)No. Not even close.
onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)Access Hollywood take was released before the election. He called Mexicans rapists before the election. He made fun of a disabled reporter before the election. Republicans want to rehabilitate their images. They need to be thrown out with the rest of the Republican trash. Tiffany called him on it. I applaud her greatly.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... excuse and he went butt hurt vs progressive.
Naw, this is why some people wont change ... they think they did little wrong.
Joedog
(718 posts)that these people abandoned Trump not why they abandoned him.
onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)They should not get a pass.
Joedog
(718 posts)every opportunity and tries to rally people away from him.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But completely dismisses his own responsibility for helping to get Trump where he is.
It's nice that he rips Trump. But it's not like it's a particularly brave, Profile in Courage act on his part. What else was he going to do after Trump unceremoniously kicked him off the Trump train?
onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)Come on now. We all knew. And I will add that even though I knew it would be really bad. It was exponentially worse than I could have ever imagined.
Joedog
(718 posts)that Trump might actually grow into the role. Once they saw that he was totally inept and hopelessly delusional they left him. I've heard Obama say he held out hope for that. We need to cut off support for Trump at every opportunity.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)power. Obama may have "held out hope" but he never once stopped warning us how dangerous this man was.
People like Scaramucci jumped on the Trump train and rode it for all they could until they got kicked off and then hitched a ride on another train. I don't mind him riding on our train, but that doesn't mean he gets to drive it and certainly doesn't mean we have to treat him with kid gloves.
And you can bet that the minute he finds a train he thinks will get him where he wants to go faster, he's going to hop right off and chase that one.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)over 4 years in office, and said "I WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF THIS!!!"
Joedog
(718 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)
Swallow hard and accept the Anthony Scarramuccis in order to ward off the eventuality that we might get Trump for four more years.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)He has to own it and stop pretending his support of Trump was no big deal or an innocent mistake.
He likes to present himself as a savvy, keen-eyed operator/observer. But when it comes to his support for Trump, suddenly he wants everyone to believe he was just Boo Boo the Fool. He can't have it both ways. If he wants to be taken seriously as an analyst whom people should pay attention to, he can't pretend his support for Trump was an innocent mistake. He made a calculated choices to support Trump and it wasn't because he was stupid or had been fooled. He knew just what he was doing. And when it no longer worked to his advantage, he moved in a different direction.
Joedog
(718 posts)Now if he wants to come over and bring his friends with him that's all the better. But we can't expect those people to beat themselves up for supporting the wrong guy. People have been doing that in this country since the early 1800's
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)is he bringing out all these strong feelings?
Joedog
(718 posts)for Trump who Trump fired at the urging of Chief of Staff Kelly. He now is totally anti Trump
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)tblue37
(65,458 posts)highplainsdem
(49,017 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)He was the one who wouldn't let her ask questions.
Joedog
(718 posts)A really important point about the more reasonable faction of republicans moving away from Trump and she wouldn't let him.
ecstatic
(32,720 posts)First of all, I was laughing my ass off at the way she introduced him. A lot of interviewers have featured him on their show, but Tiffany is the first host to hold him accountable. Scaramucci is a smart, incredibly articulate guy, but it's obvious to me that he's an amoral opportunist / grifter.
That being said, I can acknowledge that he is a gifted communicator and I don't rule out the possibility that he might have some insight on how to communicate with some portion of the 74 million people who (supposedly) voted for trump.
But he's not someone we can place our trust in.
Just my opinion.
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demmiblue
(36,873 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,284 posts)I watched her show last week, and it reminded me of Tweety Bird, constantly interrputing suggestion she's out of time, but yet keeps on repeating a previously stated point over and over again, using up the little time the guest has no time for.
Ari Melber does this quite often, and I find it very annoying. Rachel, Brian, Joy Reid and a few others are much more disciplined or just not inclined to be disruptive generally speaking. Rachel made a rare unnecessary disruption with a guest last night on top of an important point while answering a question. Again, she doesn't seem to conduct herself that way as a rule. But Tiffany Cross needs to be checked on this habit, and if she could be open to be made aware of it, and learn to check herself.. I will start listening to her show again.