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Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:41 PM

The Rich GOP say they want freedom, so how is showing fealty to Trump

and his mob freedom? It breaks one's spirit. No extra length of lazy river in the backyard pool renovation is going to mitigate that they are no longer masters of their own domains. People who would do anything for power don't really have agency anymore. They are peons. Corruption works like that. You end up intertwined, not free and a bit more dead inside because they know they kissed the ring of someone they don't respect.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:44 PM

1. For rich GOP, freedom means freedom from regulation and taxes.

And freedom to do whatever they damn well please and get away scot-free.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:45 PM

2. But they are now prisoners of corruption.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:51 PM

3. Only if they are charged and convicted. Otherwise, corruption is just good business.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:55 PM

6. Even arrests and convictions don't matter if Trumpy POTUSs and governors sell pardons

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:57 PM

7. Too true.

And they can always find Jeeezus in prison and come out in a couple of years cleansed of the corruption and ready for more.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:52 PM

4. If you are rich enough, corruption is freeing. You buy favors and influence because the money is

less valuable to you than being unconstrained by rules and laws that normal people are held to. Overt, straightforward corruption is liberty to the uberweathy because with enough money there isn't anything you can't have however you want it.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:54 PM

5. Then the middle class is gone and the only way for some poor to be able to

buy a car is to kidnap or crime. Or shake down business. That is not freedom. That is a revolution waiting to happen. We may be at this last thing very soon if short selling GameStop is any sign. The rich GOP wanted the wild west. They may get it. And they will have to keep kissing Trump's ring to keep the lid on angry white men.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:58 PM

8. That's why they're all in for facism to control the wild west without bothering them.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:04 PM

10. I think this is happening worldwide too.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:15 PM

12. corruption is the alternative to following rules and procedures

instead of following the law, you just pay someone off

Quicker, easier and you get rid of those pesky bureaucratic restrictions

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:59 PM

9. They talk of freedom because it gets them in the front door of

everyone else they need for Republican votes. I think the “Rich” only care about getting more money. Trump was just the vehicle.

The thing the rich fear most is losing their money. Second is they don’t want the angry mobs to turn on them. They are easy to find.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:14 PM

11. freedom to do what they want...

the problem is the little people think the GOP works for them, and always has. That's the real kicker. They've been buying the bullshit for a lifetime, yet still lap it up. Their self-worth is wrapped around their whiteness. The fact that the chances of them entering the moneyed-class are slim to none is not as important as their belief that other people are taking what is theirs. If it weren't for (?)whatever....they would be living in the mansion high up on the hill. Never occurs to them that those they worship, are robbing them blind....every which way.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:39 PM

13. "freedom, in the slogans of the strong.....

means unrestrained liberty to exploit the weak." will durant

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:35 PM

14. From Qanuts to See ee ohhs, few are truly free

Freedom is so misunderstood.
When one is bound by world-wide-webs of delusions and lies living on the internet, one is not free.
When one is constrained by fears that lahks* of millions, even bits of billions, are not enough, one is not free.

Humans from penthouses to no-houses are nearly universally bound by overwhelming desires, aversions or fears.
There is so much talk about freedom from external restraints and so much ignorance of internal shackles.
We shout for freedom from within self-built fortresses of fetters, fears, challenges and chains.

The freedom to open carry guns of wars seems not to free the one brandishing from their always full bandolier of fears.
The objective truth of excessive over-abundance is missed by the rich tycoon with an overdrawn 'never-enough' account.

*A "lahk" is the Vedic measure of 100,000

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

15. They've bastardized

the "freedom" word. When they talk about freedom, all they really mean is freedom from consequences and freedom to exploit others. When it comes to freedom affecting historically disadvantaged groups, they have no use for that.

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