I have fired 3 people during my manager years before teaching. I hated it

[demtenjeep]

and even tho it was very much necessary, I cried before I had to talk with them and after. During the time I tried to be so gentle and was looking for a way to not to have to fire them.

One was caught stealing money from the cash reserve, on camera, no way around it. I still felt bad.

One was constantly not showing up for work was kind of relieved when fired, didn't want the job I guess. I still felt bad.

One was constantly trying to watch girls in the restroom, I did not hire him, was already an employee when I took over ...that one I sorta felt bad, but was relieved when he was gone. Still didn't like having the actual "you're fired conversation"

[southernyankeebelle]

1. You have a heart. I don't think I am made to fire people either. But you shouldn't feel bad they

were in the wrong not you.

[demtenjeep]

3. it has been almost 30 years

and I still remember their names and the looks on their faces

[liberalmuse]

5. This is why you are a liberal.

I couldn't do it because I'm chickensh*t- and sometimes it needs to be done. I'd like to think most humans feel the way you do, but I might be wrong. I'd seriously question the humanity of anyone who admittedly enjoys firing people. I saw some of the 'King of Bain' video, and it's heartbreaking.

[southernyankeebelle]

9. But you did the right thing.

[demtenjeep]

18. thank you

[MattBaggins]

10. Like Norm on cheers when he is hired to be an axeman

[RandySF]

2. Romney is the type

Who fires people to make $10.7 million instead of $10.5 million.

[Louisiana1976]

6. Mittens is not a job creator--he's a job cremator.

[liberalmuse]

4. I don't know many people...

who like to fire people. But I think this speaks well of you. No matter how heinous the offense, you're still putting another human being out of work, and that should never be easy for anyone. (I'm talkin' to you, Mittens)

[MADem]

7. I've fired more than that, and even with the ones that completely deserved it, needed it, and were

asking for it as a consequence of horrific and unacceptable conduct, I never enjoyed it. In fact, I despised it. It's like that parental expression often cited ahead of a black-n-white TV or movie spanking: "This is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you."

I never was brought to tears accomplishing these personnel actions, but then again, the people I fired were on their way to courts-martial, most of 'em, for stuff that was pretty lousy, and sometimes, ghastly. Still, it wasn't anything I might see as "fun" or enjoyable in any way.

I must say, you gotta wonder about anyone who gets a charge out of doing that sort of thing. I viewed it as a shitty responsibility that is part and parcel of being in a management position, not something enjoyable. It's like cleaning the shitter--someone has to do it, but it's not a job anyone dances into the bathroom eagerly looking forward to accomplishing.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

8. Be thankful you never had to fire someone just because there was no work

At least there was just cause for these three......especially a guy trying to watch women in a restroom.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. I was also involved in firing somebody.

The final decision wasn't mine, but I was a manager and told the boss I thought it needed to be done. The guy was a terrible employee - he was flaky and irresponsible, and eventually failed to complete a project though he told us he was getting it done, and almost lost a major client. He probably should have been fired long before he actually was, and it was a relief when he was gone.

Even so, actually firing the guy was really difficult and unpleasant. Nobody should actually enjoy firing someone, even a bad employee.

[newspeak]

23. hubby was a manager

and after being manager for well over ten years, only had to lay off one. It came from higher up, they sent someone from human resources-when he told the man, the HR butthead wanted him to be escorted out, the MO of today and he refused. The sad thing was the man was in sales and he was really connecting with the community and getting sales (since the company under a new arsehole CEO) was PR wise going down. What a stupid move.

Of course, they laid off my hubby after telling all other areas they wanted the other areas to be run like his area. he was informed he was to be at a meeting, instead, of kudos, for having a great area, he was laid off.

Hubby always thought how firing someone also affected the whole family. How he wasn't just firing an employee, he was firing the whole family. People like romney could care less how he impacted a family as long as his greedy buddies made profit. Also, didn't care how raiding a company affects the whole community. Because of his actions, I really don't think of him as an american, just another corporate shill.

[demtenjeep]

17. it just wasn't in my nature. I hated having to be the one to do it.

I had suspected the "thief" for a while, but when I actually had proof, I guess I was in shock for a while.

The slacker was a good employee when he showed up, I suspect, he liked to party too much. He worked great Monday-Wed, but could not be counted on Thurs-Sunday. (Payday was Thursdays) I even tried to only schedule him on Mon-Wed, but really needed him more and tried to work with him way longer than most people would have.

the pervert...well I was glad he was gone, but hated to have to be the one to do it.


I still believe the best in most every person. The hubs says I am too trusting and give too many chances. I guess he is right, but actions from the repukes have sure helped loosen my trusting nature. I am more skeptical now, a little more hardened. But it still goes against my nauture that there are people that are deliberately mean and cruel.

[demtenjeep]

25. oh my...

no I still believed the best in people. Nasty republicans and their dirty tricks....I don't trust as easily anymore

[Raine]

13. I had to let someone go one time

with good reason but I dreaded it for days and it still sticks in my mind as a very unhappy experience.

[demtenjeep]

15. exactly

!

[lumberjack_jeff]

14. I've laid off dozens

Being laid off myself was easier.

[stufl]

16. I let two salaried employees go...

because they simply were not doing the job. That was back in the days when people could get jobs. I advised both that they were suited better for other work....and they were. I was doing them a favor and they're both probably VP's now.

Thirty others were laid off, but I had nothing to do with it. They were union. Those that remained were surprisingly supportive and hard working. They even let me help out with shipping with no complaints.

[lapislzi]

20. I fired someone, and then threw up

Even though the person was clearly incompetent, and wasn't in a position of supporting a family.

I count it as one of my worst work experiences, worse than actually getting fired.

[superpatriotman]

22. Been there, too

Same feeling. Twenty years later I still feel bad.
That's called EMPATHY. A gift and a curse.

[CTyankee]

21. There will always be those few bad apples. But I do wonder (from your example) how the creep

spying on women in the bathroom wasn't found out sooner.

I always look at the management when multiple firings take place. I have been in a workplace where one person was stealing and it took a very long time to find her out (she actually went to prison!). In the meantime, another employee was threatened with firing because the boss was "convinced" it was she doing the stealing. It impeded getting to the real culprit and, of course, real money was lost.

As for employees who don't want to be in their jobs, I have seen that also. I do wonder, tho, if there aren't signs along the way that the employee is having trouble with "a wrong fit," but have to work and make ends meet. I've seen sad cases such as a woman whose very demanding young toddler (who turned out later to be diagnosed with autism) and crumbling marriage made her miss a lot of work. She is a brilliantly creative woman also. But she was in the wrong job and the wrong time in her life.

No wonder you cried. You were in the workplace with real people, not moving people like so many chess pieces on the board. Romney has no idea what lives real people live...

[yardwork]

24. Normal people don't like to fire people. Romney is a sociopath.

[FarCenter]

26. It is difficult if you only do it a few times

I didn't like to fire anyone. However, an acquaintence who is a manager of a large, low-wage, service intensive business has had to do it quite often. Knowing how to fire someone and how to cope with the typical reactions make it easier.

Of course firing people for cause and/or poor performance is one thing.

Laying off staff due to poor sales and lack of demand is another.

Firing whole departments, shutting down locations, and terminating lines of business is what Romney was doing.