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riversedge

(70,333 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:20 AM Feb 2021

Say hello to a new challenger hoping to unseat Rep. Marjorie Greene next year.





Say hello to a new challenger hoping to unseat Rep. Marjorie Greene next year.

Marcus Flowers, a resident of Bremen, GA, spent 6 years in the army, 13 years as a defense contractor, and 5 years as a government official, he tells me. He’s a Democrat.


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His opening salvo: “GA-14 deserves a Representative who can actually sit on committees.”



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Say hello to a new challenger hoping to unseat Rep. Marjorie Greene next year. (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2021 OP
The PVI of GA-14th is R+27 nycbos Feb 2021 #1
And in cases like this Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #2
Is GA an open or closed primary? nycbos Feb 2021 #3
Open Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #5
or vote for the weakest repug that our Democrat would have a better chance of beating in the general FM123 Feb 2021 #8
Doesn't work in a R+27 district Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #10
Greene WAS the 'weakest' GOPer groundloop Feb 2021 #25
Didn't she run unopposed in the general election DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #35
That's a good strategy pandr32 Feb 2021 #29
It's important to have good Democrats running even in unwinnable districts. enough Feb 2021 #13
If the PVI was R+10 I'd agree with you. nycbos Feb 2021 #15
Not arguing about spending money, but curious whether you think Democrats should just enough Feb 2021 #34
I agree with you. The rub is the money spent. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #36
Don't think he has much of a chance, but would love to see him run. Lucy McBath didn't have Hoyt Feb 2021 #4
GA-06 isn't a R+27 district. nycbos Feb 2021 #6
Exactly Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #9
OK, I'm convinced. Just let Greene run unopposed. I lived in Greene's district for a year, and am Hoyt Feb 2021 #12
No one is saying let her run unopposed Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #17
Even Republicans there don't want someone who can't do anything but vote Democratic bills. ancianita Feb 2021 #19
You are not understanding that district Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #22
Oh do you live there? Kingofalldems Feb 2021 #23
I did, my son still does, and now I'm just across the border from that district groundloop Feb 2021 #26
I have lived there BBG Feb 2021 #27
Not a prayer... brooklynite Feb 2021 #7
Not impossible that he could win one term in office, like Doug Jones did in Alabama Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #11
"viewed as being toxic by many otherwise very right wing Republicans" brooklynite Feb 2021 #14
Not yet anyway, but she still has a lot of time before the next election Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #21
Yes... LeftInTX Feb 2021 #28
Just to clarify this guy is a Democrat right? I see the act blue link. mahina Feb 2021 #32
he had me at "Goo Gone" handmade34 Feb 2021 #16
and this... handmade34 Feb 2021 #18
And unlike Greene's district Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #20
If he's a good candidate and has persuasive positive messages... jmbar2 Feb 2021 #24
Her primary opponent was considered elitist because he was a medical doctor. They love the stupid. Marcuse Feb 2021 #30
I'm interested to learn about the death threats to her last opponent mahina Feb 2021 #31
Despite knowing so little about him, he seems like a fine candidate. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #33
Which defense contractor did he work for? n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #37

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
1. The PVI of GA-14th is R+27
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:23 AM
Feb 2021

It's not a winnable seat. They like her because she is a racist, antisemitic, nut job,

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
2. And in cases like this
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:34 AM
Feb 2021

Where the seat is not winnable for Democrats, Democrats should vote in the Republican primary to get the least insane republican....I said this a couple weeks ago and got blasted, but a Democrat isn’t winning that seat so why not do that

Edit - I would argue that a Democratic voter’s voice is stronger this way

pandr32

(11,625 posts)
29. That's a good strategy
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM
Feb 2021

Us democrats need to be strategic as hell in order to save our country from insanity.

enough

(13,263 posts)
13. It's important to have good Democrats running even in unwinnable districts.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:09 AM
Feb 2021

It doesn’t mean we have to pour a lot of money into that race. But having good viable people out there talking about reality is much better than abandoning the field.

I grew up in a county in PA where you could hardly get Democrats to run because there was absolutely no chance of winning. They ran and lost over and over again for decades. Right now, the entire county is controlled by Democrats and our U.S. Representative is a Democrat.

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
15. If the PVI was R+10 I'd agree with you.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:15 AM
Feb 2021

You can then say it is a part of a multi-cycle effort to flip the district like what happened state wide in GA.

But when it is an R+27 district there is no chance.

I grew up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. When I voted in the 2016 primary I was about the 100th democrat to vote at 11am in my precinct to only four Republicans.


Republicans would never spend money here. We shouldn't spend a dime in this district.

enough

(13,263 posts)
34. Not arguing about spending money, but curious whether you think Democrats should just
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 06:07 PM
Feb 2021

not run at all in these places?

Irish_Dem

(47,495 posts)
36. I agree with you. The rub is the money spent.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:07 AM
Feb 2021

If resources are finite, should we spend money on impossible odds districts?

But I would very much like to see an excellent Dem candidate run against MTG.
To give her a run for her money, she might actually have to do some work to win.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Don't think he has much of a chance, but would love to see him run. Lucy McBath didn't have
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:36 AM
Feb 2021

much of a chance either when she won.

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
6. GA-06 isn't a R+27 district.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:41 AM
Feb 2021

Ms. McBath was running in traditionally Republican suburban district that has been trending Democratic.

A Democrat winning there is impossible.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
9. Exactly
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:44 AM
Feb 2021

people made this take when I commented about voting for the less insane republican in their primary ....there is a difference between R+27 and R+8.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. OK, I'm convinced. Just let Greene run unopposed. I lived in Greene's district for a year, and am
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:05 AM
Feb 2021

well aware how difficult it is.

But, I'd like to see someone like this guy at least stick it out to offer another viewpoint. The Democrat who ran against Greene -- who had no chance for sure -- quit a month or so before the election to go back to Indiana. We can do better than that.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
17. No one is saying let her run unopposed
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:19 AM
Feb 2021

My take would be for Democratic voters to vote in the Republican primary to at least get the least insane republican because Republicans are likely to win the seat, but a Democrat should still run in the general election and Democratic voters should vote for that person in the general

ancianita

(36,147 posts)
19. Even Republicans there don't want someone who can't do anything but vote Democratic bills.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:26 AM
Feb 2021

They'd at least tolerate a Democratic candidate who can be on committees, which is his exact right strategy right now. And he could create a trending district.

I think running a solid Democrat against her is worth political money and effort.

The very core of democracy works this way.

groundloop

(11,527 posts)
26. I did, my son still does, and now I'm just across the border from that district
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:27 PM
Feb 2021

And yes, the vast majority of people in that district ARE just like Greene.

But, even with that, I'll donate to a Democratic candidate to challenge her.

BBG

(2,555 posts)
27. I have lived there
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:30 PM
Feb 2021

In a previous chapter of my life I spent a couple of years in Catoosa county. Yes, it is a red redneck place full up on bubbas and inbred ignorance.

brooklynite

(94,762 posts)
7. Not a prayer...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:41 AM
Feb 2021

This is an R+27 District (might be marginally different after redistricting). No Democrat is going to knock her out of office.

Consider Steve King (IA-4). As offensive as he was, he sailed through re-election every two years until he drew a Republican Primary opponent.

As much as you hate her, the best thing you can do with your money is to support the Democratic Incumbents we have and keep her in the minority.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,917 posts)
11. Not impossible that he could win one term in office, like Doug Jones did in Alabama
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:56 AM
Feb 2021

Jones only won an Alabama U.S. Senate seat because the Republican candidate became viewed as being toxic by many otherwise very right wing Republicans. Even so Jones barely squeaked in and then got beaten easily next time by a far right Republican without the same obviously toxic baggage. That's the best case scenario for this Democratic candidate, and still unlikely though anything is possible with ongoing toxic revelations about Greene that could tie her in directly to abetting the insurrection.

But every sane voice campaigning against Greene is over all a plus. Maybe he can help weaken her enough between now and 2022 for a less insane Republican to defeat her in a Republican primary. I am thankful that he is taking her on.

brooklynite

(94,762 posts)
14. "viewed as being toxic by many otherwise very right wing Republicans"
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:12 AM
Feb 2021

But she isn't. That's the fundamental difference.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,917 posts)
21. Not yet anyway, but she still has a lot of time before the next election
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:28 AM
Feb 2021

I'm not saying it is likely, just that it is possible. But like I said, if a Democrat somehow manages to take that seat in 2022 s/he better not sign any 3 year leases in D.C.

mahina

(17,711 posts)
32. Just to clarify this guy is a Democrat right? I see the act blue link.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:00 PM
Feb 2021

I read in the post that Jim Jordan and Matt gates were out recruiting for douche bags like Boebert and MGT, and I presume Cawthorne.

I sure hope we’ve got a good organization out there looking for good people to run.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
18. and this...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:22 AM
Feb 2021

Kerry Donovan running against Lauren Boebert...

she had me at moving hay and having Scottish Highlanders


Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
20. And unlike Greene's district
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 11:27 AM
Feb 2021

This lady has a chance in this district because it’s only R+6 and trending purple to blue.

jmbar2

(4,910 posts)
24. If he's a good candidate and has persuasive positive messages...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:17 PM
Feb 2021

I'd fund him even if he couldn't win.

There is value in having strong alternative messaging out there, even in the hopeless districts. You have to start somewhere in the battle to change minds. This guy may be a good choice for that.

Reward him for his guts. I will donate.

mahina

(17,711 posts)
31. I'm interested to learn about the death threats to her last opponent
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:58 PM
Feb 2021

And active investigations of them. I’ve not heard about any.

The threats were credible enough to make the guy drop out of the race and leave the state with his family. Actually his family left first.

Isn’t that horrendous?

I also want to hear from and about Mr Flowers.

Mahalo for posting.

PS being a vet in a really solid person with lots of experience and smarts wasn’t enough to put Moe Green even near the seat now occupied by Madison Cawthorne.

And there’s another one to add to the shit bag list.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
33. Despite knowing so little about him, he seems like a fine candidate.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:42 PM
Feb 2021

When I read the title, but before I clicked, I thought "In a sane world, half a plate of table scraps ought to be able to defeat that loon. This is going to be a joke."

I stand corrected, and am happy to.

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