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Vivienne235729

(3,352 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:39 PM Feb 2021

Proud Boy's attorneys argue Trump to blame for deadly Capitol insurrection

At a hearing on the government’s request that William “Billy” Chrestman remain incarcerated pending trial, his attorneys said the Olathe man was not a serious flight risk, chances were slim that he would attempt to obstruct the prosecution and he was not a danger to the community.

“It is an astounding thing to imagine storming the United States Capitol with sticks and flags and bear spray, arrayed against armed and highly trained law enforcement,” Chrestman’s attorneys said in a court filing opposing the prosecutors’ request. “Only someone who thought that they had an official endorsement would even attempt such a thing.

“And a Proud Boy who had been paying attention would very much believe he did.”

That endorsement, Chrestman’s defense argued, came from Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/proud-boys-attorneys-argue-trump-to-blame-for-deadly-capitol-insurrection/ar-BB1dM0jV?ocid=ientp

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Proud Boy's attorneys argue Trump to blame for deadly Capitol insurrection (Original Post) Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 OP
Sorry, Senate Said He's Not To Blame nt sfstaxprep Feb 2021 #1
I can't believe their attorneys are pursuing this angle. It reeks of desperation. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #2
I Can Absolutely Believe They're Pursuing It sfstaxprep Feb 2021 #4
"I was just following orders" doesn't really fly in real life... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #3
no it sure doesn't. And what will the response be when the prosecution brings up two little words: Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #5
Esp. when you're not active duty military or part of the government ... mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #6

Vivienne235729

(3,352 posts)
2. I can't believe their attorneys are pursuing this angle. It reeks of desperation.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:46 PM
Feb 2021

No one put a gun up to their heads to do what they did. You can't claim ignorance as your sole defense. Well, I guess you can. You just may not end up with the results you want.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
4. I Can Absolutely Believe They're Pursuing It
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

Their job is to fling shit at the wall, and see what sticks.

What other defense could they possibly have? They were out for a leisurely stroll, and somehow found themselves inside the Capitol, carrying the House Speaker's podium?

Might as well go with the "Charlie Made Me Do It" defense.

Vivienne235729

(3,352 posts)
5. no it sure doesn't. And what will the response be when the prosecution brings up two little words:
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:51 PM
Feb 2021

personal. responsibility.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Esp. when you're not active duty military or part of the government ...
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 07:30 PM
Feb 2021

Trump egged them on, to be sure ... but he had no legal authority to compel anyone apart from the above two groups ... to do so.

This is a critical point.

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