Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:34 AM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
Wow, Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC just said ...
that REGULATIONS means PROTECTIONS, which is what I've been advocating, on this forum, what we should be saying as well.
Words matter. She also said that Texans are left UNPROTECTED against their current energy DEDEGULATIONS. Thank you, Stephanie Ruhle!
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aggiesal | Monday | OP |
Comfortably_Numb | Monday | #1 | |
question everything | Monday | #37 | |
Comfortably_Numb | Monday | #40 | |
amuse bouche | Monday | #43 | |
ProfessorGAC | Monday | #47 | |
amuse bouche | Monday | #50 | |
JanMichael | Monday | #60 | |
ProfessorGAC | Monday | #62 | |
JanMichael | Monday | #63 | |
treestar | Monday | #59 | |
amuse bouche | Monday | #74 | |
redstatebluegirl | Monday | #44 | |
Roy Rolling | Monday | #67 | |
elleng | Monday | #46 | |
treestar | Monday | #58 | |
Cha | Monday | #64 | |
question everything | Monday | #71 | |
treestar | Monday | #73 | |
True Blue American | Tuesday | #76 | |
CTyankee | Monday | #2 | |
Wounded Bear | Monday | #48 | |
CTyankee | Monday | #55 | |
JI7 | Monday | #3 | |
unblock | Monday | #4 | |
empedocles | Monday | #7 | |
theneworiginal | Monday | #36 | |
gibraltar72 | Monday | #5 | |
Cyrano | Monday | #6 | |
gab13by13 | Monday | #8 | |
Baitball Blogger | Monday | #9 | |
Stuart G | Monday | #10 | |
littlemissmartypants | Monday | #14 | |
groundloop | Monday | #25 | |
Iliyah | Monday | #11 | |
PufPuf23 | Monday | #12 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #16 | |
NoMoreRepugs | Monday | #13 | |
littlemissmartypants | Monday | #15 | |
Arthur_Frain | Monday | #17 | |
Caliman73 | Monday | #41 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #53 | |
True Blue American | Monday | #18 | |
ProfessorGAC | Monday | #49 | |
True Blue American | Monday | #56 | |
ProfessorGAC | Monday | #69 | |
True Blue American | Tuesday | #75 | |
ProfessorGAC | Tuesday | #77 | |
True Blue American | Tuesday | #78 | |
FakeNoose | Monday | #19 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #21 | |
FakeNoose | Monday | #26 | |
aocommunalpunch | Monday | #20 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #22 | |
Klaralven | Monday | #23 | |
jaxexpat | Monday | #24 | |
Permanut | Monday | #27 | |
central scrutinizer | Monday | #28 | |
AllaN01Bear | Monday | #29 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Monday | #30 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Monday | #32 | |
tblue37 | Monday | #61 | |
Poiuyt | Monday | #31 | |
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Poiuyt | Monday | #65 | |
Mabel | Monday | #34 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #38 | |
certainot | Monday | #35 | |
calimary | Monday | #39 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #45 | |
Blue Owl | Monday | #42 | |
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patphil | Monday | #52 | |
aggiesal | Monday | #54 | |
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:37 AM
Comfortably_Numb (1,608 posts)
1. Up next on M$NBC- Mrs. Greenspan lauds the "free markets" of high electricity prices.
This is the DU member formerly known as ResistantAmerican17.
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Response to Comfortably_Numb (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:34 PM
question everything (40,456 posts)
37. Misogyny is alive and well on DU
Would you refer to the Vice President as Mrs. Emhoff? To the Senator from MA as Mrs. Mann?
Welcome to the second half of the 20th Century! Women do not automatically take on their spouse's last name. Of course you know this. You may hate Andrea Mitchell with passion, but instead of specifying why you are trying to belittle her. |
Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:54 PM
Comfortably_Numb (1,608 posts)
40. Wow that escalated quickly. If that's misogyny to you maybe you need to adjust your threshold.
This is the DU member formerly known as ResistantAmerican17.
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Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:03 PM
amuse bouche (3,570 posts)
43. Andrea Mitchell, the Right Wing Shill, could be called a lot of things
Mrs Greenspan was probably the blandest of all
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Response to amuse bouche (Reply #43)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:33 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,918 posts)
47. But, It's Not Her Name
She did not take Al's name when they got married.
Her actual last name is Mitchell. Not Greenspan. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #47)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:05 PM
amuse bouche (3,570 posts)
50. Don't care. Still bland
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #47)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:20 PM
JanMichael (22,809 posts)
60. How about Ms. Dumbass? Is that allowed in our narrow views? nt
Response to JanMichael (Reply #60)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:40 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,918 posts)
62. SURE!
She's a dumbass. That name fits!
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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #62)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:43 PM
JanMichael (22,809 posts)
63. But "Dumbass" isn't her surname?
I guess Ms. Dumbass-Greenspan-Mitchell works? I like double hyphenates.
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Response to amuse bouche (Reply #43)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:17 PM
treestar (78,296 posts)
59. Yeah, really,
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Response to treestar (Reply #59)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:30 PM
amuse bouche (3,570 posts)
74. This place gets more and more absurd
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Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:08 PM
redstatebluegirl (11,254 posts)
44. I agree question everything! I don't like this woman one bit, but she has the right to be referred
to by her name, not Mrs.
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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #44)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:26 PM
Roy Rolling (5,014 posts)
67. People have no right to naming protections
People may call me a dumbass or genius, and unless it’s a legal document you have the right to call me anything.
But I hear your point—it’s disrespectful. But the point—she is married to Greenspan—is the information being shared. To some, clumsily, but I had never heard that so it’s useful to me. |
Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:56 PM
elleng (104,528 posts)
46. Thanks.
I usually skip these, but give you a
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Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:16 PM
treestar (78,296 posts)
58. In her case, it's meant to link her to Alan Greenspan
as far as her attitudes towards economics go. Remind you they are peas in a pod.
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Response to question everything (Reply #37)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:50 PM
Cha (269,175 posts)
64. Okay.. Andrea But her Emails Mitchell
is freaking manipulative media tool.
She shouldn't be referred to by her husband's name but that doesn't make the poster a "misogynist". |
Response to Cha (Reply #64)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:44 PM
question everything (40,456 posts)
71. It is. If she were a man, similarly hated, how would he have referred to him?
Response to question everything (Reply #71)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:16 PM
treestar (78,296 posts)
73. Like it was said above, something worse
and more insulting than a name he could actually have claim to use.
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Response to question everything (Reply #71)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:16 AM
True Blue American (13,131 posts)
76. Mister Mitchell?
Come on guys, get real! This thread is funny.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:38 AM
CTyankee (58,330 posts)
2. Live free or die!
or something like that...
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Response to CTyankee (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:35 PM
Wounded Bear (43,114 posts)
48. More like live free and die!
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #48)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:06 PM
CTyankee (58,330 posts)
55. Yep. I was being sarcastic.
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:40 AM
JI7 (83,262 posts)
3. And safety . We need to use these type of terms more
when we support regulations.
safety, protection, quality |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:43 AM
unblock (48,642 posts)
4. I like the football analogy. Deregulation is like the nfl getting rid of referees
Everybody loves to hate the refs, and sure, they botch a call every now and then. And trying to get the calls right slows down the game.
Still, everyone knows that the game would be a completely pointless disaster without them. Really, it would quickly cease to be football at all and turn into a silly brawl. |
Response to unblock (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:50 AM
empedocles (11,839 posts)
7. Lines on the field, rulebooks, video review are all helpful.
Response to unblock (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:29 PM
theneworiginal (257 posts)
36. Same with cops.
They enforce rules. They enforce regulated societal norms. They take it out of the "kill or be killed/only the fittest survive" mode. For those against regulation, let's get rid of the cops, too. Then we'll see who is really top dog.
Capitalists love deregulation of financial systems, but are the first to call the cops when someone tries to steal their money. Banks screw people with fees, exploit the poor and double-charge on bounced checks, but the Feds will put bank robbers in jail for 7 years for an average of $3500 robbery. Double standard. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:45 AM
gibraltar72 (6,005 posts)
5. And many other things.
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:48 AM
Cyrano (12,780 posts)
6. Republicans have always been for deregulating everything
Their "magic of the marketplace" is bullshit. They work for Wall Street and big business who are their donors and who get them and keep them in office. All the rest of us are just peasants who are on our own. Texas is the latest example of the destruction caused by deregulation.
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Response to Cyrano (Reply #6)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:53 AM
gab13by13 (2,869 posts)
8. As someone else already said here,
it shouldn't be called deregulation, it should be called decriminalization.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:56 AM
Baitball Blogger (37,674 posts)
9. I like the way one of the guest speakers corrected a host, (not sure who)
saying that, no, Texans didn't vote for a deregulated energy program. It all came about from a decision from the then governor and state leaders.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:58 AM
Stuart G (29,821 posts)
10. The greatest book on "Regulations"...yes this book created some..Upton Sinclair..."The Jungle" ,1906
As a result of this book, meat packing regulations were enacted for the first time. (that is meat was inspected and
had to be proved eatable if sold)...nationwide....You got to read it to believe it. Describes what it was like before meat was inspected... |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:28 AM
littlemissmartypants (14,350 posts)
14. Excellent book.
Full Audiobook
❤ miss pants |
Response to Stuart G (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:31 AM
groundloop (9,704 posts)
25. You mean that industry self 'regulation' didn't work?.... Say it ain't so !!!!!!!
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:03 AM
Iliyah (24,917 posts)
11. The energy companies are taking advantage of Texas residence . ..
and that is pretty sad.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:03 AM
PufPuf23 (7,214 posts)
12. Stephanie Ruhle has become my favorite at MSNBC
Part may because I usually wake up during JoeScar which can be such a wasteland and the contrast with Ruhle usually is what motivates me to make coffee.
Props to Ruhle !!! |
Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #12)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:32 AM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
16. Stephanie Ruhles ...
Had to say it!
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:08 AM
NoMoreRepugs (5,407 posts)
13. Smart gal who chooses her words carefully.
Not much double talk from Stephanie. Seldom if ever any bothsiderism.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:28 AM
littlemissmartypants (14,350 posts)
15. Kicked. ❤ nt
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:41 AM
Arthur_Frain (813 posts)
17. As I point out to anyone who will listen,
90% of the time, a regulation exists because a long time ago some poor schmuck like me was killed, injured or got conned outta something, so we got together and made a law to prevent the unwary from getting screwed again.
Never saw anyone get together to try and make rules to kill jobs, despite what RWers say. |
Response to Arthur_Frain (Reply #17)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:00 PM
Caliman73 (7,389 posts)
41. Yep. And when they say, "kills jobs" what they mean is, "I don't get as much money".
Regulations do not "kill jobs". Yes, they make operating more expensive because instead of allowing your employees to fall in to the vats and become "Durham's Leaf Lard" (as in The Jungle), you have to put guard rails and safety equipment in the vats to make sure people don't fall in. It costs money to make it safer for people to work and Capitalists do not like that.
No one likes spending more money, Hell, I just got a crack in my windshield and I don't want to spend the money to fix it. I do know however, that the crack will get bigger and the integrity of my windshield is compromised, so I have to, plus, it is a violation to drive around with a cracked windshield so I can get a ticket. It is a safety issue. |
Response to Caliman73 (Reply #41)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:00 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
53. To keep your cracked windshield from spreading, here's a little trick I learned...
Take a bic lighter and burn the windshield at the end of the crack. (Works better from inside the car).
It melts the plastic between the 2 windshields and keeps the crack from spreading. I was skeptical when I was told, but I have to be honest, after I get a crack in my windshield and burning the end of the crack, I've never seen it spread. I have a small sample size like 3 times. It would be worth finding out that actual percentage of spreading, with a much larger sample size. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 10:44 AM
True Blue American (13,131 posts)
18. I loved the Texas Judge when asked by Stephanie
What about the huge prices, who was going to pay that. The answer,” We need an investigation!”
No, we do not need an investigation, we need a Judge to stop the price gouging! |
Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 02:38 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,918 posts)
49. Yes, We Do
You can call it gouging, and from a practical standpoint, it is.
But, the system they set up requires no collusion to fix prices, no single supplier to advantageously hike prices in response to a supply collapse, no buying low to sell high. I don't think a judge can do anything because no laws were broken. It's a terrible flawed system and an investigation might help resurrect some sound regulations to prevent recurrence. But I doubt a judge is the answer. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #49)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:13 PM
True Blue American (13,131 posts)
56. Haven't the Governor
And Legislature stopped them? I read somewhere they did.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #56)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:30 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,918 posts)
69. I Heard That, Too
It was after i posted.
Apparently they have the authority to suspend market trading, so that the price reverts to last rate. That it took them a week seems to be worse. They knew they could close sales into the market and didn't do it? |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #69)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:11 AM
True Blue American (13,131 posts)
75. So that is how they stopped it?
If you heard of the Ohio bribery scandal where the Speaker accepted $61 million in bribes for an aging nuclear plant and 2 coal plants the Judge stepped in, stopped the rate hike.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #75)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:22 AM
ProfessorGAC (46,918 posts)
77. Different States With Different Rules
I guess.
I'm sure Texas has some screwy laws around this. That's not a criticism of Texas, just based on how they set up this flawed system. Also, I'll guess that in the case you mentioned, an actual crime was committed. It's probably easily within a judge's purview to prevent law breakers from profiting, which would include the bribing parties. I honestly don't think anybody needed to break any laws for this to happen in the electrical system in Texas. The way this is set up, it's a free for all and this was the consequence. I heard what I did on CNN radio, and I switched from Volume during a commercial. So, I didn't get details. But, it seems high Texas officials can simply declare an emergency and tell the generating companies they can't sell to the commodity market and revert to a direct billing process through the emergency. I didn't hear anything about why they waited a week to do something. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #77)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 10:28 AM
True Blue American (13,131 posts)
78. Thanks!
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:13 AM
FakeNoose (17,208 posts)
19. The question is: are the voters of of Texas finally getting it?
It was never about "socialism," or "free-dumb," it was about protecting the people of Texas from the unregulated greed of the utility suppliers. Utilities enjoy a near-monopoly in Texas as they do almost everywhere in the US. The market doesn't get to decide that, just like the market suppliers should not be permitted to gouge their customers during a weather-related disaster.
If Texans don't understand it now, they never will. It means they're hopelessly brainwashed. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #19)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:25 AM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
21. Yes, electricity, gas & water were once public utilities ...
and protections (i.e. regulations) were put into place to prevent exactly what happened in Texas, throughout the U.S.
These companies are pure monopolies in most places and you can now include Cable/Internet service providers. And since 1980's, these public companies have been Profitized (instead of Privatized because words matter) to the point where we can't go anywhere else for these services. These companies own the last mile to our houses. That means no competing company can charge a lower price because the owner of the last mile can fee them to the point where the competing company can never offer the best price. If you don't know what the last mile is, here is a wiki page. |
Response to aggiesal (Reply #21)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:32 AM
FakeNoose (17,208 posts)
26. There have been efforts to do the same thing in Pennsylvania
I don't think people are falling for it though.
Maybe some are, but now that this has happened in Texas, the entire rest of the country can see why it was never a good idea to "let the market decide" when it comes to essential utilities pricing. ![]() ![]() |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:19 AM
aocommunalpunch (3,372 posts)
20. It's funny how folks think socialism is so bad when
we have socialism for the corporations and wealthy. They get their protections all the fucking time.
This is the DU member formerly known as theaocp.
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Response to aocommunalpunch (Reply #20)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:26 AM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
22. Privatize the profits and socialize the debt ...
Watch who ends up paying for this in Texas.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:26 AM
Klaralven (3,316 posts)
23. Whether regulations mean protections depends on what the regulations say.
There are all kinds of regulations.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:27 AM
jaxexpat (1,517 posts)
24. I'm glad the subject of deregulation and privatization is the focus of attention for so many.
It's way about time. It is to the predominance of these two philosophical concepts and their subsequent poisoning of American politics that its current state of devolution need be attributed. It's in the backlash from the "silent majority" due to their inability to process the "new math" that they got traction.
Way too many folks these days believe that somewhere in the constitution it's written how patriotism is tantamount to a sentimentality for medievality, that the blessings of subliminality were best manifest in the age of lords and ladies and serfdom. It explains, perhaps, the contradiction revealed by our tacit acceptance of engrained and unfair social class distinctions in a nation founded, in writing and reputably, on the concept of a brotherhood of man wherein all are created equal. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:49 AM
Permanut (3,003 posts)
27. K & R for an important subject, and a great thread from DU'ers.
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:50 AM
central scrutinizer (10,053 posts)
28. GQP wants the good old days back
12 year old kids working in the mines and fields, 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, no minimum wage, no overtime, no workplace safety, dumping of waste into rivers, no required accommodations for the alter-abled. All those pesky “regulations” that cut into profits.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:51 AM
AllaN01Bear (5,136 posts)
29. old saying, letting the fox rule the henhouse .
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:57 AM
BobTheSubgenius (7,065 posts)
30. This is one of the most blatant examples of greed gone....what's a more powerful word than 'wild?"
Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #30)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:16 PM
BobTheSubgenius (7,065 posts)
32. Clicked "Post" instead of clicking into the text field.
That's what happens when I try to operate heavy machinery before my first coffee is in me. It's almost like drunk driving.
Anyway, what I was going to say was that the "regulatory" board in Texas (read "price fixer" ![]() Abbot's got the backs of the consumers, though; he says the power companies can't pass the costs of rebuilding whatever parts of the infrastructure need rebuilding. While obviously a step in the right direction, the word "obvious" applies to the idea behind that decision. Perhaps it's "Beyond Obvious" that customers shouldn't be levied to pay for their negligence, lack of maintenance and greed - running the system so close to 100% capacity so as to not have to add more power generation. That customers should not be getting billed up to $5000 (highest I've seen - there could be higher) for 19 days of power use is about at the level of "Power companies have been forbidden to pump the carbon monoxide they produce into the homes of consumers." One of those things you would think never needs to be written down. Apparently, you'd be wrong. Here, in the most liberal part (SW Coast of BC) of Canada, every appliance and fixture I have is electric. My bill is set at $110 per month. Our electrical system was "nationalized" (by the province) in 1962, and we often have enough surplus to export it. Here, on Vancouver Island, our grid used to be vulnerable to weather. BC Hydro laid a new undersea cable and attached it to a brand new distribution center in the early 80's and we haven't had a blackout, barring downed trees, and similar, more or less unpredictable events. I'm not trying to lord it over the unfortunate, gouged Texans. I want them to see what is possible. Everything and everyone in this world is dependent to some degree on everything and everyone else. Why not join us? |
Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #32)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:29 PM
tblue37 (45,927 posts)
61. I've seen $17,000 bills reported.
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:15 PM
Poiuyt (15,577 posts)
31. The Democratic Party is the party that protects Americans
![]() ![]() https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/30/1882483/--Donny-Deutsch-has-marketing-advice-that-could-win-it-all-for-the-Democrats Say what you will about Donny Deutsch, but he's spot on here. |
Response to Poiuyt (Reply #31)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:19 PM
BobTheSubgenius (7,065 posts)
33. That these distinctions have to be written down and disseminated is ridiculous, IMO.
How can people not know this, even just by sensing it, without all the data that backs it up?
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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #33)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:50 PM
Poiuyt (15,577 posts)
65. I agree, but he was speaking about marketing
The Democrats should definitely use these points in their marketing schemes.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:26 PM
Mabel (73 posts)
34. Regulations are like a cop on the beat
Capitalism is a great thing but there are always crooks, regulations just like a cop, enforce boundaries and help to keep the game honest.
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Response to Mabel (Reply #34)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:45 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
38. Cops are PROTECTIONS ...
That is why any time someone uses the word REGULATIONS or I see a statement that uses REGULATIONS,
I substitute the word REGULATIONS with the word PROTECTIONS. Used to drive the RWNJ's I know crazy. They would complain about the REGULATIONS and I would respond with "You mean PROTECTIONS?" |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:45 PM
calimary (61,640 posts)
39. And that's what we should call them. PROTECTIONS.
NOT “regulations”. PROTECTIONS!
The bad guys have turned “regulations” into a dirty word. For years they’ve worked that dirty mind-games trick and unfortunately it’s been effective. So we have to brand it differently. We have to use the word “protections.” Cuz that’s what regulations do. They protect. They protect the little guy from bullying and overreaching and attempted domination by the big guy. Btw - I think that domination thing is what made trump so attractive to the MAGAts. They’re all swiveling resentful little nobodies who found a Big Bad Tough Guy to glom onto, and thereby gaining those same attributes for themselves. They side with that big bad-ass, and they feel like big bad-asses too. |
Response to calimary (Reply #39)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:25 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
45. Exactly why I always say, substitute REGULATIONS with PROTECTIONS ...
and watch how the meaning changes drastically.
Words matter! Also, people hear PROTECTIONS and they'll feel more self assured that it will benefit themselves, because they are protected. As far as the "big bad-asses too", they're IDIOTS! |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:47 PM
flying_wahini (2,907 posts)
51. I see big class action lawsuits in Texas over this.
People in Texas are pretty pissed about getting $15 THOUSAND dollar electric bills. And the direct pay paid the bills in full. Gotta hurt. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 03:53 PM
patphil (1,967 posts)
52. Stephanie Ruhle rules!
Deregulation requires honesty, integrity, and a true regard for what's good for the people as a whole.
Unfortunately those conditions can never be met since those who do not have these characteristics are often all in on acquiring money, power, and control. It's like putting brakes and steering on a car...kinda necessary to get the car to stay on the road and not slam into people and stuff. |
Response to patphil (Reply #52)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:03 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
54. Here is something funny ...
Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2021, 07:27 PM - Edit history (2) I took my car in to get a brake job done.
When it was complete, the manager handed me the keys and said, "Here you go. All done. We stand behind our work". I immediately responded with, "Maybe you should stand in front of your work." His eyes lit up. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:14 PM
Hortensis (43,877 posts)
57. ? This is not a new idea. The essence of regulation is to
protect the people, both directly and indirectly as in environmental issues, from being hurt by entities too strong for individuals to control. That's most business.
Basically, right out of "What Is Liberal Democratic Ideology 101." |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #57)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:22 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
66. My purpose is that we, as liberals should use the word ...
Protections whenever someone write or says anything about Regulations.
I know RWNJ's that spout crap about regulations and I immediately say, "You mean protections?" It either shuts them up or they start thinking about how it protects them. I'm just happy that Stephanie Ruhle said the exact thing I've been advocating. |
Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:30 PM
Oldem (657 posts)
68. I endorse posts that stress semantics.
"Regulations" suggests restriction. "Protections" is positive: we all want protection. Words matter. From the moment the government used the word "regulatory," the door was open for repugs to eat our lunch. We have to be smarter.
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Response to aggiesal (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:38 PM
doubleplusgood (906 posts)
70. say "regulatory safeguards"
...in response to the GOP's tiresome "burdensome regulations" mantra.
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Response to doubleplusgood (Reply #70)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:53 PM
aggiesal (5,760 posts)
72. say "Protection safeguards" ...
remove any word that is a derivative of the word Regulate.
QOP's tiresome "burdensome regulations" mantra, turns into "burdensome protections". Have the QOP try to defend that, "I'm against burdensome protections!" It would really make them look like the heartless, soulless people that they are. |