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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,023 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 09:57 PM Feb 2021

Acting Capitol Police chief: Phone logs show Jan. 6 National Guard approval was delayed

Acting U.S. Capitol Police chief Yogananda Pittman testified on Thursday that cellphone records show former USCP chief Steven Sund requested National Guard support from the House sergeant-at-arms as early as 12:58pm on Jan. 6, but he did not receive approval until over an hour later.

Why it matters: Sund and former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving clashed at a Senate hearing on Tuesday over a dispute in the timeline for when Capitol Police requested the National Guard during the Capitol insurrection.

Irving insisted that he has no recollection of receiving the request until after 2pm. Lawmakers are looking for accountability over that hour of lost time, when pro-Trump rioters were able to breach and ransack the Capitol.

"I did not get a request at 1:09 that I can remember," Irving, who resigned after the insurrection, testified. "The first conversation I had with chief Sund in that timeframe was 1:28, 1:30. In that conversation, he indicated that conditions were deteriorating and he might be looking for National Guard approval."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/acting-capitol-police-chief-phone-160659182.html

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Acting Capitol Police chief: Phone logs show Jan. 6 National Guard approval was delayed (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 OP
I was convinced Irving was lying... His body language was very deceitful. Sund was emphatic, hlthe2b Feb 2021 #1
Agreed. Ilsa Feb 2021 #2
You can be emphatically wrong bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #6
Yes, you can be emphatically wrong and I believe you are. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #8
Please look at the cspan video, it shows everything I say bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #9
I watched it in REAL time live. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #11
Cool, back under oath. Revise your recollection? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #3
Calling them and actually being able to get a hold of them are two different things bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #4
Below is the cspan link to see for yourself bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #5
The video evidence and the call evidence might diverge on what really happened. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #7
The fact that the NG had to be called ... AT ALL ...is gob smacking. They have TVs and uponit7771 Feb 2021 #10

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
1. I was convinced Irving was lying... His body language was very deceitful. Sund was emphatic,
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:02 PM
Feb 2021

expressed some anger (who wouldn't) but came off far more believable.

bottomofthehill

(8,333 posts)
6. You can be emphatically wrong
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:26 PM
Feb 2021

Chief Sund said 1:09, Chief Pittman said 12:58, Mr Irving said 1:30 ish

Chief Sund said Irving and Stenger were together Stenger went to the senate at 1:15 and Irving was still on the House Floor.

Takes a few minutes to walk from House to Senate.

Are people lying, is there confusion in the time line, could Chief Pittman, Mr Sund, Mr Irving all be telling the truth in what they know...

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
8. Yes, you can be emphatically wrong and I believe you are.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:29 PM
Feb 2021

I am working and can't post in detail at the moment, but I believe you have errors. Maybe I will get a break in a few hours or someone else can take this on in the meantime.

bottomofthehill

(8,333 posts)
9. Please look at the cspan video, it shows everything I say
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:38 PM
Feb 2021

There are not any emotions or feelings of right or wrong, just time stamped video from cspan.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
3. Cool, back under oath. Revise your recollection?
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:11 PM
Feb 2021

Or drop a dime on the real architects that allowed the Insurrectionists to get into the Bldg.

bottomofthehill

(8,333 posts)
4. Calling them and actually being able to get a hold of them are two different things
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:18 PM
Feb 2021

The problem with calling someone is that they are not always able to answer.
Both the House and Senate Sergeant at Arms were on the Floor of the House for the beginning of the Joint Session of Congress which started at 1. You can see Paul Irving Still on the Floor of the House as late as 1:15 and Michael Stenger leaves the House to bring the Senate back to their Chamber at about that time. Mr Sund said he spoke to them and they were together so that would move the timeline even further back. C—Span time stamps their video every couple of minutes.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
7. The video evidence and the call evidence might diverge on what really happened.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

Where you are doesn't necessarily mean you weren't aware of what could be happening.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
10. The fact that the NG had to be called ... AT ALL ...is gob smacking. They have TVs and
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 10:41 PM
Feb 2021

... didn't know WTF was going on !?!?

Answer

- NO = more fucked up
- YES = still fucked up

Someone had to tell the DCNG to get off their asses and do something ?!?!

You've got be to be kidding me !!

Why wasn't the DCNG calling the Cap Police !!?!?!?!?

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