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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:16 PM Feb 2021

"The fate of one of Florida's most fragile freshwater springs now is in the hands of the Nestl comp


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Miami Herald
@MiamiHerald
"The fate of one of Florida’s most fragile freshwater springs now is in the hands of the Nestlé company, which intends to drain nearly 1 million gallons a day and sell them back to us in plastic bottles."

💭 The latest in Opinion, from @Carl_Hiaasen.

Nestlé sucks — literally — the lifeblood out of Florida’s precious freshwater springs | Opinion
miamiherald.com
https://t.co/nlmp56qZnr?amp=1
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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
1. Central WI as a great aquifer. Nestle tried to by the local bottling company.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:20 PM
Feb 2021

Send the water to Japan. We blocked then.
Good Luck.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
2. Guess I'll never know what spring it is.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 12:48 PM
Feb 2021


The copy and paste in the OP doesn't mention it. Clicked on the link and got six popups.

Added MiamiHerald to my hosts file.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
3. Ooh I got in: Ginnie Springs, a lovely and wildly popular location for swimming and diving along the
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 01:09 PM
Feb 2021

Last week, despite a tide of opposition, the Suwannee River Water Management District unanimously approved a controversial permit that will uncork a siphon from Ginnie Springs for the noble purpose of further enriching a multinational conglomerate.

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Not only is the state giving away precious water for free, but it’s allowing that to happen on a river system where the flows already have dwindled 30 percent to 40 percent below historic norms, according to the Florida Springs Institute.

The water board’s decision will be appealed, but the prospects for stopping Nestlé or future exploiters aren’t good for Ginnie Springs, a lovely and wildly popular location for swimming and diving along the Santa Fe River, not far from Gainesville.

Under the new agreement, a family-owned company called Seven Springs Water will be allowed to renew its permit to pump Ginnie Springs for a puny one-time fee and dramatically increase the previous number of gallons diverted daily.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
4. Thanks for this.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 02:35 PM
Feb 2021


I heard some time back they were doing this in Zephyr Hills as well.

And just BTW ... I don't think I should have to take special measures to accommodate a
website. While they are making a visitor jump through all their hoops they are adding a
car load of cookies on the user's device. I've noticed this sort of thing is fairly common
with most media organizations. I need them a lot less than they need me.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
5. Here's further information from deep in the linked article
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 02:47 PM
Feb 2021

that mentions Zephyrhills:

Under the new agreement, a family-owned company called Seven Springs Water will be allowed to renew its permit to pump Ginnie Springs for a puny one-time fee and dramatically increase the previous number of gallons diverted daily.

Then Seven Springs would sell that water at a torrential profit to Nestlé, which is expanding production at its bottling plant in Gilchrist County.

The levels in the Santa Fe River system already have dropped because of too much commercial pumping that, combined with reduced seasonal rainfall, has also allowed nitrates and other farm waste to enter the water.

Nestlé, the world’s largest bottler of water, produces Zephyrhills, Pure Life, Deer Park and other labels you know. It has 27 production sites and about 7,000 employees in the United States, and it draws water from 38 natural springs.

Florida is one of its most generous and unquestioning suppliers.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
7. Ginnie Springs, north of Gainesville, is a beautiful area
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 03:13 PM
Feb 2021

We spent many happy hours there when our kids were growing up.

This makes me

Takket

(21,564 posts)
8. same thing happened in Michigan........
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 03:17 PM
Feb 2021
https://www.mlive.com/news/2020/04/nestle-wins-legal-challenge-to-michigan-groundwater-extraction.html

LANSING, MI — A state administrative judge has upheld a permit that allows global food and beverage giant Nestle to boost the amount of Michigan groundwater it extracts for sale under the Ice Mountain bottled water brand.

In a decision dated April 24, Judge Dan Pulter ruled that Nestle’s plans to withdrawal 576,000 gallons of groundwater per day from the headwaters of two cold water trout streams in Osceola County will not negatively impact the surrounding natural resources.

The ruling upholds a controversial and unpopular permit approval Nestle received just over two years ago from the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) under former Gov. Rick Snyder.

The Michigan Citizens for Water Conservation (MCWC) and the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians filed a challenge to that permit approval in July 2018.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,611 posts)
9. OH GOD, NO! NESTLE IS EVIL PERSONIFIED.
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 03:17 PM
Feb 2021

They are famous for this kind of tactic. They have done this in so many places.

It makes me supremely angry to see them getting away with this AGAIN.

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
10. Ginnie Springs flow rate is about 38 million gallons a day...
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 03:23 PM
Feb 2021

...most of will end up as salt water as it flows into the sea.

So removing some of it for drinking water I think is OK as long as they don't remove to much to affect flow and I think obviously it should be well paid for.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
12. When the majority of FL voters begin to connect the dots and stop empowering evil
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 03:29 PM
Feb 2021

then they will have different outcomes.

Let's hope that if that day ever comes there's something left to salvage for the younger generations.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
15. Global warming will exacerbate competition for dwindling resources
Sat Feb 27, 2021, 05:10 PM
Feb 2021

Ultimately I think the corporations will set the table for the nationalization of all water supplies.

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