If people who have recovered from COVID-19 are now immune, WHY did 45 get vaccinated ??

[eppur_se_muova]

Could it be he actually listened to the doctors when they said there's still a chance he could catch one of the new variants ? Why didn't he tell them the whole thing is a hoax ?

That shot should have gone to someone at greater risk who followed the social distancing guidelines and didn't claim the virus wasn't real. It was wasted on 45.

[Grasswire2]

1. excellent question!!

I, personally, don't believe that he had the virus. I think it was all a stunt -- one of his grandiose stunts.

[gldstwmn]

2. Nothing about his diagnosis

made any sense. I don't know what to believe.

[Pisces]

3. You are not immune forever if you have Covid. 6 to 9 months

We may need the shot every year

[BigmanPigman]

7. I heard that too.

Sounds logical, especially with variants.

[moof]

4. only he "knows" how he has felt since getting infected, so if he was still feeling lousy ...

the shot could help. https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/2/22308965/covid-vaccine-shots-symptoms-improve-chronic-long-haulers

[moonscape]

5. I recall reading that

the body produced more antibodies from the mRNA vaccines that from having had the virus. Hope I remember that correctly, so not to be taken as fact for sure,.

[dewsgirl]

6. Because you can catch it more than once.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210203/covid-19-patients-likely-protected-for-six-months

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201012/first-confirmed-us-case-of-covid-reinfections

[multigraincracker]

8. We have a 79 year old friend that had it almost a year ago.

He got vaccinated a few weeks ago. Up until he got the shot a few weeks ago, his memory was shot. He would tell the same story 3 time in a half hour. Dramatic improvement now.

[Freddie]

13. I read that the shot helps people with long-COVID

Many have shown great improvement. Excellent news.

[Celerity]

9. The variants are bad news, especially Brazilian P.1, plus Moderna & AstraZeneca vaccines are poor

against it and the South African one, in their CURRENT forms. Against them all, Pfizer is the best, and Johnson and Johnson is good in terms of keeping you from getting really ill.

We both still have almost complete protection against normal COVID-19 over 10 months from both us catching it, but we are going to get the new updated (specifically for the variants, including P.1) Moderna vax in a trial they will run here in Stockholm. We earned a special placement due to our long term participation in multiple studies here at Karolinska universitetssjukhuset.
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All 4 our our major counts have barely dropped off from late April/early May, 2020,

We are 24yo, were both asymptomatic, and are in superb shape: my wife is a competitive biathlete and I myself do a shedload of different sports, plus we have fairly big (for a Stockholm townhouse) home gym, so we are not all that typical.


Antibodies, which are proteins that circulate in the blood and recognize foreign substances like viruses, and neutralise them.

Helper T cells help to recognize pathogens.

Killer T cells kill pathogens.

B cells make new antibodies when the body needs them.

Virus Variant in Brazil Infected Many Who Had Already Recovered From Covid-19

The first detailed studies of the so-called P.1 variant show how it devastated a Brazilian city. Now scientists want to know what it will do elsewhere.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/health/covid-19-coronavirus-brazil-variant.html



In just a matter of weeks, two variants of the coronavirus have become so familiar that you can hear their inscrutable alphanumeric names regularly uttered on television news. B.1.1.7, first identified in Britain, has demonstrated the power to spread far and fast. In South Africa, a mutant called B.1.351 can dodge human antibodies, blunting the effectiveness of some vaccines. Scientists have also had their eye on a third concerning variant that arose in Brazil, called P.1. Research had been slower on P.1 since its discovery in late December, leaving scientists unsure of just how much to worry about it. “I’ve been holding my breath,” said Bronwyn MacInnis, an epidemiologist at the Broad Institute.

Now three studies offer a sobering history of P.1’s meteoric rise in the Amazonian city of Manaus. It most likely arose there in November and then fuelled a record-breaking spike of coronavirus cases. It came to dominate the city partly because of an increased contagiousness, the research found. But it also gained the ability to infect some people who had immunity from previous bouts of Covid-19. And laboratory experiments suggest that P.1 could weaken the protective effect of a Chinese vaccine now in use in Brazil. The new studies have yet to be published in scientific journals. Their authors caution that findings on cells in laboratories do not always translate to the real world, and they’ve only begun to understand P.1’s behaviour.

“The findings apply to Manaus, but I don’t know if they apply to other places,” said Nuno Faria, a virologist at Imperial College London who helped lead much of the new research. But even with the mysteries that remain around P.1, experts said it is a variant to take seriously. “It’s right to be worried about P.1, and this data gives us the reason why,” said William Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. P.1 is now spreading across the rest of Brazil and has been found in 24 other countries. In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has recorded six cases in five states: Alaska, Florida, Maryland, Minnesota and Oklahoma.

To reduce the risks of P.1 outbreaks and reinfections, Dr. Faria said it was important to double down on every measure we have to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Masks and social distancing can work against P.1. And vaccination can help drive down its transmission and protect those who do get infected from severe disease. “The ultimate message is that you need to step up all the vaccination efforts as soon as possible,” he said. “You need to be one step ahead of the virus.” Dr. Faria and his colleagues started tracking the coronavirus when it exploded in Brazil last spring. Manaus, a city of two million in the Brazilian Amazon, was hit particularly hard. At its springtime peak, the cemeteries of Manaus were overwhelmed by the bodies of the dead.

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[quakerboy]

10. If he ever even had it

I wouldnt trust trumps word if he was reading my nametag.

[Raven123]

11. Because he didn't believe his own lies.

[eppur_se_muova]

14. Winner winner chicken dinner ! nt

[GaYellowDawg]

12. Most likely it was the monoclonal antibodies.

They would have given him passive immunity and hampered the ability of his immune system to produce memory cells.

[NurseJackie]

15. My husband suggested that maybe HE NEVER HAD IT to begin with and wasn't immune.

I told him he was being silly. A conspiracy to perpetrate a hoax/fraud like that would be found out too easily.