Which Americans will not take Covid vaccine? These are interesting figures.

[Arkansas Granny]

Link to tweet

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[marble falls]

1. That's OK, having fewer GOP males around wouldn't hurt.

[riversedge]

3. now that is nasty. nasty

[marble falls]

5. Just trying to make lemonade out of their lemons!

[riversedge]

35. I understand.

[jimlup]

6. As a non-GOP male I'd say it is spot on!

[dflprincess]

31. Natural selection can be so cruel.

[NNadir]

50. Well, natural selection working on blood sucking mosquitos may not be a bad thing.

One can extend the analogy as one wishes.

[central scrutinizer]

10. But they'll be Petri dishes

Cooking up new variants. We’ll never reach herd immunity with so many dumb shits in the herd.

[Celerity]

18. This is by far the most accurate post in this thread in terms of outcome and consequences

if these refusal numbers are not reduced. The new variant production that likely will occur could have potentially catastrophic impacts on the already-vaccinated cohorts as well.

[marble falls]

23. Fewer of them is fewer petri dishes. The thought is we are in the eye of the hurricane ...

... there will be a lot of "closet" vaccinated before this is over. The Governors of Texas, Mississippi, Florida ought to be horse-whipped.

[dawg day]

55. The Trumps--

Secretly vaccinated.

It's like all those "pro-life" politicians who ship their pregnant daughters to NY to get a secret abortion.

[iluvtennis]

37. + agree. nt

[littlemissmartypants]

2. I love Yamiche. ❤ nt

[Arkansas Granny]

4. Me too. I was really impressed by her refusal to back down on the several

occasions that the former guy spoke to her rudely. She's tenacious.

[littlemissmartypants]

28. ❤ nt

[ShazzieB]

40. Agreed.

She's amazing.

[magicarpet]

7. Yeeeee Haaaaaw,...

... fascists voter self suppression.

You can't vote from the graveyard.

Go git thems sums Covid cooties to prove how macho he men thems are.

[IcyPeas]

8. wonder if these numbers are similar to regular flu vaccine

or just for this specific COVID vaccine.

[Arkansas Granny]

9. That could be an interesting study.

[Ms. Toad]

17. There's likely some overlap -

but it won't be a one-one mappng.

I have never been vaccinated for influenza, but I got the COVID vaccine two days after I was eligible.

[Mr.Bill]

30. I think the flu vaccine would be influenced

by age mostly, but other factors, too, like the Covid vaccine.

[smirkymonkey]

47. It would be interesting to see the comparison.

Men, in general, tend not to be as conscientious about these things, but would be interesting to see it broken down like this.

[Ms. Toad]

11. What saddens me is the comparison of Democrats to Black Americans

Around 85% of Black Americans are Democrats https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/09/13/2-party-affiliation-among-voters-1992-2016/

Only 11% of Democrats are reluctant to vaccinate - yet 25% of Black Americans are reluctant.

I get it, given our history of medical experimentation on Black Americans. But Black Americans bear a disproportionate share of the burden of COVID 19 already. Vaccine reluctance wil only increase the disparity.

[Hortensis]

29. :) Don't be sad. The higher rate for black folk is likely far more attributable to

the reality that sizable percentages are conservative, and of course a bunch of those are conservative men. Just look at the figures for men overall. Also, our Dem figure includes all our races.

Sure, AA are being invited to claim fear of being victimized again by evil government scientists. But we have reason to believe that precious few black women voters, especially, would accept that invitation to refuse to take care of themselves and their own. As an excuse for those who are doing just that, it might be more appealing than aligning with the trumpists.

Btw, there was far more unethical medical experimentation on white males than any other group because the vast majority of studies were intended to benefit white men.

The biggest discrimination by far was in lack of studies on subjects among those less valued -- women and minority groups. I was middle aged before medical devices became reliably sized for women; I remember surgeons having to suture too-big valves into women's hearts and hoping they'd do because they'd all been tested and manufactured for men.

[Ms. Toad]

52. The math doesn't work out for that explanaton. n/t

[Hortensis]

54. I didn't give figures. I did point out that the 11% for Dems

represents all Dems, including AA. And of course the 25% figure does include conservative AA, who would probably be a good half of the group polled, pulling the results up. Same way the cons among the 28% for whites pulls that up.

Anyway, by definition it's a poll of dumbasses in an era of intense political dumbassery, and substantial numbers will turn out to have been blowing hot air for the pollsters. Figures not available yet.

[Ms. Toad]

59. The combined math in the tweet,

Plus the Pew Research poll which indicates taht only 15% (not 50% are likely to be conservative AA) since 85% of AA are Democrats - whiich is why the numbers don't work out. If they were evenly split they could be explained away by conservative AAs.

[Hortensis]

60. Oh, I see what you're thinking. Liberal and conservative personality,

humanity's two main personality types, are a big part of who we are individually.

Strong conservatives would need personality transplants (and being strapped down) to become liberal-dominant, but all they have to do to align with the Democratic Party for any reason is to...align Democrat. And then drop it as quickly if they choose.

For obvious reasons, relatively few politically active AA conservatives align Republican.

Unfortunately for them, that leaves the Democratic Party as way to elect representatives to government. Most AA cons who vote Democratic align not so much with the Democratic Party as with their own AA faction within the party.

In fact, conservatives of conviction, poor things, often have to hold their noses to vote Democratic, except for issues they see as their own. And of course, sometimes some, more likely to be male, will choose not to vote. Or not to vote Democratic.

[llmart]

12. They might say they aren't getting it...

but I bet many of them are lying. They know there is no way of anyone finding out the truth, so this way they can save face in front of their GOP buddies.

Of maybe they're all just a bunch of snowflakes who are afraid of a widdle ole' needle stick.

[Goodheart]

14. Good point.

[TwilightZone]

20. Agreed.

Should have ready your post first.

I think they'll covertly get it, like Trump did, and just not tell anyone.

[SergeStorms]

42. My opinion as well.

I told my daughter this last week. They may say they're not getting the vaccine, because they're rough, tough, hard as nails republican men (utterly laughable) but when it comes down to brass tacks at least 80% of them WILL get the vaccine when its offered to them. The other 20% won't be missed by anyone, not even other republicans.

[Trueblue Texan]

46. When we ask if they are going to get a vaccine...

...and they say “no” we should ask with utmost sympathy, “ you’re scared of needles? I’m right there with you.”

[Goodheart]

13. I encourage GOP men to die off.

[liberalmuse]

15. 49% of Republican men are going to have a difficult time getting laid.

You're better off just cutting out the obnoxious middle man and sleeping with a petri dish full of Covid.

[SergeStorms]

43. 49% of republican men....

couldn't get laid in a woman's prison with a handful of pardons. These are the knuckle dragging, slack-jawed, mouth breathing, booger eating morons that call themselves "incels", and proud boys. They're so ugly and stupid their hands turn them down when they want to masturbate.

[liberalmuse]

56. Oh, that does paint a picture, LOL!

[Trueblue Texan]

64. There went my coffee....

...spewed it all over the keyboard and up my own nose! Thanks for the laugh!

[gulliver]

16. It's a lot easier to choose not to be vaccinated when you can't be.

As with wearing masks in Walmart, I'm thinking we'll see everyone getting vaccinated once the pressure starts to go that way. The first time someone's boss tells them they can be vaccinated, take a big hit on their health insurance contribution, or maybe even take a hike, I think we'll see some behaviors change (if not minds). Heck, we'll probably even see bribes and rewards going to people to get vaccinated (or prove they have been). Carrot and stick.

[TwilightZone]

19. I think a lot of them are lying.

On the GOP side, I think they'll covertly get it, like Trump did, and just not tell anyone.

[Arkansas Granny]

21. I won't be surprised if this is the case.

[Treefrog]

25. That is EXACTLY what I think. People in red cities and towns are being vaccinated like crazy.

I’m glad because I want everyone to be vaccinated.

[TwilightZone]

27. Agreed.

I don't care what the motivations are as long as people get vaccinated. If they want to pretend that they didn't, so be it.

[Rebl2]

32. That's

what I think too

[Quixote1818]

36. Probably. It will be interesting to see what the total number of those vaccinated is by this summer

Then we will know how many people lied.

[FakeNoose]

22. I think more black Americans will want to get the vaccine

... once they understand that it's safe to get vaccinated and very/extremely risky to refuse it.

It's just going to take a few trusted individuals to convince them. Maybe for example: Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, Barack Obama, Morgan Freeman. It won't be long before black Americans understand the value of being vaccinated.

[Treefrog]

26. Unfortunately I read that LeBron James is not setting that example. Have those you named done

so? That would help enormously.

[FakeNoose]

39. I was basing my example on the past presidents' video

If trusted people in the black community were to do the same, I'm sure it would carry a lot of weight. Not everyone's outlook is political - for or against.

[Blasphemer]

33. I am surprised by the Latinx number...

I studied the anti-vaxx phenomenon a bit about 7-8 years ago and then, surveys suggested high overall uptake of vaccines in the Latinx community.

[hay rick]

34. The Latino numbers are a concern.

I went into a very ethnic local taqueria to pick up a menu the other day and didn't see a single mask worn by customers or staff. I was shocked.

[Hamlette]

38. I shouldn't be surprised but I am

my dad was a republican years ago and he was pro science, pro facts by the book.

The GOP has tied itself in knots (God is good, science is bad, facts are bad, the deep state is out to get us) to convert enough people to stay in power.

Dad left the GOP when Reagan was prez. He hated Ronnie and all of his crew.

[Liberty Belle]

41. Ways to get those who don't want the vaccine to get vaccinated:

Open sports stadiums, but only to those who've been vaccinated

Require proof of vaccinations to fly on an airline or ride on a train

Get major employers to require or at least incentivize vaccines

Require vaccines to attend concerts and other large gatherings

[Duppers]

44. Great list! 👍

Especially to board planes.

And "major employers to require or at least incentivize vaccines."

[Fiendish Thingy]

45. 9 days from now the US will reach the 100 million vax mark; at that rate...

The 200 million mark will be reached sometime in May. If the overall hesitancy/refusal rate is around 25-30%, then I would expect the vaccination rate would fall off a cliff around that point, with fewer and fewer people seeking appointments.

We will find out soon enough just how accurate these survey numbers are...

[roamer65]

48. Time for a vaccine "passport".

No passport, no flights, no theaters, no sporting events, no large meetings, no...

[SergeStorms]

49. That's a great idea.

They do give you a vaccination card when you get your jabs, so there wouldn't be any need to print up anything else. Of course this would create a counterfeit vaccination card business for republican men too terrified of needles to get their jabs. There's always someone who wants to make a buck off of everything.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

51. RepuQ men are liars.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

53. The idiots are the ones refusing the vaccines

Link to tweet

[Initech]

57. Ironic that they are demanding Trump get credit for the vaccines...

Yet they refuse to take them! Hypocrisy at its' finest!

[Arkansas Granny]

58. To quote Edith Ann "And that's the truth".

[Buckeye_Democrat]

61. Very interesting, given all the media talk about...

... minorities being too paranoid to get them! (They're at greater risk of hospitalization / death, so it's not all bad that CNN and others are trying to encourage their vaccinations.)

At the same time, I'm not too surprised by Republican white men. They probably think it's "wimpy" or something, being so often concerned about their very SUPERFICIAL "manliness". Driving their gigantic pick-up trucks and the like.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

62. From the Hoarse Whisperer

Link to tweet

[Arkansas Granny]

63. Lol.

[marie999]

65. Don't know if this means anything,

at the Jacksonville, NC VA clinic, I see the same proportion of cars with Trump stickers in line for the vaccine as I see parked for regular VA appointments.