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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 05:12 AM Mar 2021

Good luck coming for Gen X- every last one of them can fight.



Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle

Good luck coming for Gen X- every last one of them can fight. They put them into training at age 2, handed them the keys to the house at age 4 and had them cooking by 7 and with neighborhood jobs at 9.

Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle

Everyone over the age of 42 got some sort of story that starts with them fixing breakfast for school and ends with some wire like shit going down. They were escaping kidnappings, taking 5 subways solo at age 7. Like y’all we (im xennial) soft. These people built for survival.

10:53 PM · Mar 15, 2021




Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle

I’m just saying if I had to pick a fight with a generation I’m not fighting with the folks were out here ironing their uniforms at age 5 and had 15 ways to get out a blood stain so their mom didn’t get mad at ruining their good clothes. They the fuck around & find out generation.

10:56 PM · Mar 15, 2021


I'm a Gen-X plank owner - born in '65.
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Good luck coming for Gen X- every last one of them can fight. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2021 OP
1966 here Duncanpup Mar 2021 #1
Here in Sweden, 1965 and 1996 born are called blank/lost/no gen or skip/gap babies, 2 years with Celerity Mar 2021 #29
Me too :) Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #106
Who is this aimed at? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #2
It's on twitter. n/t Dennis Donovan Mar 2021 #4
I seriously don't know if you mean "we should ignore it because it's on Twitter" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #17
I posted it because it was a funny riff. n/t Dennis Donovan Mar 2021 #25
Fox News was trying to enlist Gen X fleur-de-lisa Mar 2021 #7
What did they expect of the first generation that understands social consequences, Volaris Mar 2021 #16
Gen X voted for Obama Renew Deal Mar 2021 #27
Finally, we get some context. Quemado Mar 2021 #72
"Luxury!"... SidDithers Mar 2021 #40
What is this fight about? nt NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #3
See posts 7 and 9. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2021 #8
Ah. I'm an Xennial. NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #13
Gen Xers Dorian Gray Mar 2021 #5
I think that's part of our strength, actually. Other people work themselves into apoplectic fits; Volaris Mar 2021 #12
It is not that Gen X was apathetic, it's that our numbers were too small to overcome FSogol Mar 2021 #20
This is also true. But as the numbers of the boomers naturally diminish, Volaris Mar 2021 #22
Doubt it matters. The generations after us are much larger and society is already pandering to them. FSogol Mar 2021 #24
Actually, I'm fine with letting them do what they need done. If they want help, Volaris Mar 2021 #31
As a Gen X who has taught both Millennials and Gen Z, they will do a great job. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #44
I concur, as long as they stay involved. Liking something on Instagram isn't activism. n/t FSogol Mar 2021 #46
I don't think our generation will see a President jimfields33 Mar 2021 #26
Harris is pretty firmly Gen X Sympthsical Mar 2021 #76
Unless she changes Her birthday at least the year, She's a baby boomer. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #80
Still pandering to boomers, and millennials. Monthly payments to millennials with Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #67
2 Gens before "X", most state colleges were cheap/free. Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #99
I'm a boomer ('46). I think we're the generation that walked 5 miles Arkansas Granny Mar 2021 #6
The point Gen Xers are making fleur-de-lisa Mar 2021 #9
I was not aware of the Fox News efforts. The point I was trying to make Arkansas Granny Mar 2021 #11
But that's not "coming for" Gen X. If the tweeter thinks Gen x is so tough muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #15
This particular set of tweets doesn't accurately portray the entire conversation. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2021 #51
I was a latch key kid in the 50s. WhiteTara Mar 2021 #23
But that is just anecdotal. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #33
After WWII women were already in the workforce WhiteTara Mar 2021 #35
Actually crime peaked in the 70s-90s. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #39
that's when I was latchkey in the mid 50s WhiteTara Mar 2021 #42
By the facts that I have found CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #56
Same here in the 60's/early 70's. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #98
A boomer ignoring the plight of the Gen Xer to lecture about how hard they had it. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #30
Yeah, and I get sick of the banket slagging of boomers. What paradise did we walk in on? marble falls Mar 2021 #34
Please don't tell me what I hate and do not hate. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #53
The OP didn't mention Boomers at all. Mariana Mar 2021 #85
True enough. But the comment I responded to did ... marble falls Mar 2021 #87
That comment was in response to one of those left-out Boomers Mariana Mar 2021 #89
... marble falls Mar 2021 #90
Yes seriously. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #93
Fighting amongst generations is stupid treestar Mar 2021 #103
Yes, each successive generation has had WhiteTara Mar 2021 #37
You do realize the oldest Gen Xers are 55, right? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #49
good WhiteTara Mar 2021 #54
My point isn't that.. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #58
thanks! WhiteTara Mar 2021 #62
Please see my post # 11. I didn't make my point very well, but it was not meant as a lecture. Arkansas Granny Mar 2021 #77
Ok I understand. Cheers! CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #92
Ya know, if I felt that way, I'd be sure I voted. I know I feel fucked over by my parent's ... marble falls Mar 2021 #88
Well in 2018... CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #94
So keep it up. We need more AOC's and fewer Ted Cruzes. We actually are in this together. marble falls Mar 2021 #95
Yeah I think that is right on. CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #96
"I know I feel fucked over by my parent's generation and by some of my fellow Boomers," Mariana Mar 2021 #104
That comment was a joke treestar Mar 2021 #102
73 checking in JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #10
Omg I know right? Volaris Mar 2021 #14
Excellent point JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #108
And it'd better be avacado toast. marble falls Mar 2021 #38
No words JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #107
Plank Owner 4Q2u2 Mar 2021 #18
Ding ding ding! AKwannabe Mar 2021 #28
I'm a 1970 baby, too! AwakeAtLast Mar 2021 #79
"Irish Twins" !!! Same as my wife and her sister. 1970. Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #100
And the whole time, fed nonsensical myths about Bootstraps, Hard Work, and the American Dream. Volaris Mar 2021 #32
Meanwhile, our late boomer siblings (for those of us on the front edge)... Hugin Mar 2021 #45
I for one, dont have an issue with putting in the hard work of climbing the castle walls Volaris Mar 2021 #52
Keep in mind, the Xers were the first generation to grow up in a reality where they had given up... Hugin Mar 2021 #74
Then maybe it's time we show our kids how climbing really works. Volaris Mar 2021 #75
I know. Baby boomers caused the great depression, WWI & II, Korea, Viet Nam, ... marble falls Mar 2021 #43
My post was of what we have endured 4Q2u2 Mar 2021 #55
Boomers aren't mentioned once that I could see kcr Mar 2021 #60
It does rather illustrate the point, doesn't it? Mariana Mar 2021 #105
Created in 1952... MiHale Mar 2021 #19
There are always outliers. That your mom worked, seems like a statistical anomaly for your age group Volaris Mar 2021 #36
Late boomer here, almost Gen X yardwork Mar 2021 #21
I think Gen X was the last generation that fought in school Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #41
I've noticed this as well kcr Mar 2021 #61
Yeah, I think it's good kids don't have to deal with that Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #63
Fighting has also been hyper-ritualized in MMA and similar forums greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #68
Agreed... greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #66
The Remedy ruet Mar 2021 #83
Yes, some brutality was expected, and the adults were Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #69
That was the crazy part Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #71
Yes, that was the funny part--the "knock it off" and the shrugs or the occasional Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #73
I fought a kid in the schoolyard after school in fourth grade greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #84
Isn't that weird? But I know what you're saying-- Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #91
This Gen Xer remembers how right wingers tried to cancel EVERYTHING themaguffin Mar 2021 #47
It's Funny to See All the Republican... ruet Mar 2021 #82
+1,000 meadowlander Mar 2021 #101
Love this! I'm not technically a Xer, born in 61, but I fit that category way more than LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #48
My DH was born in 62 and he Bettie Mar 2021 #86
Had My First Job at 9 Delivering Papers, 11 Cleaning the Liquor Store Parking Lot, 13 Washing Dishes Beetwasher. Mar 2021 #50
I think we Boomers taught TxGuitar Mar 2021 #57
People born 1984 and 1988 are Millennials (1981-1996). Celerity Mar 2021 #59
Your kids are millennials. We are talking about people born early 60's thru 1980. Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #64
These posts about generations here always make me laugh. People really take this shit seriously? Treefrog Mar 2021 #65
Same here XanaDUer2 Mar 2021 #70
The worst thing is that so many gen-x started working very young MoonlitKnight Mar 2021 #78
'69 Here. ruet Mar 2021 #81
2golddogs Mar 2021 #97

Celerity

(43,419 posts)
29. Here in Sweden, 1965 and 1996 born are called blank/lost/no gen or skip/gap babies, 2 years with
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:08 AM
Mar 2021

no real gen, caught between Boomers and Gen X. Has to do with demographics and other correlated statistics. I only learned this 2 years ago, from a friend's mother who was born in 1966, and now have had it confirmed by multiple people. Pretty fucking cool.

An older co-worker (full Swedish) of mine is late 1965 born, and he says he always uses his little micro gen to evade shite when people are whingeing on about Boomers and/or Gen Xers. He lived in the US for 5, 6 years when he was a bit younger and said it worked well there too.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
2. Who is this aimed at?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 05:28 AM
Mar 2021

Who has said "I going to attack Generation X"? Is it in some way relevant to a Four Yorkshireman, "you were lucky, when I was a kid ..."-style rant?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
17. I seriously don't know if you mean "we should ignore it because it's on Twitter"
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:52 AM
Mar 2021

or if you think being on Twitter makes it relevant. The first tweet in the OP was not a reply to anything on Twitter.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
7. Fox News was trying to enlist Gen X
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:40 AM
Mar 2021

in their cancel culture nonsense, hoping this age group would help them cancel anything the repube party is against.

Gen Xers aren’t having it.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
16. What did they expect of the first generation that understands social consequences,
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:52 AM
Mar 2021

For socially unacceptable behavior?

Complaint: I got fired for not going to work.
Gen-Xer: You dont say?

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
27. Gen X voted for Obama
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:50 AM
Mar 2021

And is the parents of Gen Z. There are some mistakes out there like Cruz and Cotton but they also support equality, the environment, and fair pay.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
13. Ah. I'm an Xennial.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:44 AM
Mar 2021

I find it cute Fox news thinks that generations that had their music, movies, and video games demonized and nearly canceled would come to the defense of the generation that tried to do that cancelling.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
12. I think that's part of our strength, actually. Other people work themselves into apoplectic fits;
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:41 AM
Mar 2021

And we just go 'meh...not worth the effort.'

Pissing us off tho, is a bad idea. It's why the gen-x moms in Portland didnt engage in the BLM protests their kids were attending, until AFTER they went down there just to see what their kids were doing, and got tear gassed for their trouble.

The next day, they actively picked fights with the cops and started committing federal crimes lol.

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
20. It is not that Gen X was apathetic, it's that our numbers were too small to overcome
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:00 AM
Mar 2021

societal pandering to the boomers. We had to worry about ourselves and make changes in other ways.

1965 here.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
22. This is also true. But as the numbers of the boomers naturally diminish,
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:15 AM
Mar 2021

We had better figure out what hills we want our flags planted on; if we dont, the chance to effect change will pass us by.

For the most part, I think we've made those kinds of decisions already...our hills (generally speaking) are not going to be the ones Fox fucking News pleads with us to die on lol.

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
24. Doubt it matters. The generations after us are much larger and society is already pandering to them.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:41 AM
Mar 2021

At least we can all laugh at Fox pleading.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
31. Actually, I'm fine with letting them do what they need done. If they want help,
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:19 AM
Mar 2021

I'll be happy to assist.

jimfields33

(15,830 posts)
26. I don't think our generation will see a President
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:44 AM
Mar 2021

Boomers had their first President Clinton when they were in their 40.s. I’m 1969, so 51. I see boomers continuing until a millennial is elected. Just a hunch. Even Vice President Harris is a baby boomer.

Wingus Dingus

(8,055 posts)
67. Still pandering to boomers, and millennials. Monthly payments to millennials with
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:38 PM
Mar 2021

children, for example. Student loan forgiveness. That's all political pandering to generations below Gen X. "Kids are expensive! College is expensive!" Yeah, I paid for all of that on my own, it wasn't free and I got no help beyond a couple of grants and the earned income tax credit. Took me 15 years to pay off my student loans. Gen X paid for our decisions in life, and we'll carry the burden into retirement.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
99. 2 Gens before "X", most state colleges were cheap/free.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:38 PM
Mar 2021

I'm a "trailing edge" Boomer. Born in 1959, graduated HS in 1977.

Tuition, etc., started skyrocketing right when I didn't need it to do so.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
6. I'm a boomer ('46). I think we're the generation that walked 5 miles
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:33 AM
Mar 2021

to school through the snow, barefoot, uphill both ways

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
9. The point Gen Xers are making
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:48 AM
Mar 2021

is that they were the first who, as a group, pretty much raised themselves since both parents were usually working outside the home. These were the first ‘latchkey’ kids.

This topic is trending because Fox News has recently tried to pull Gen X into their cancel culture movement. Fox is banking on Gen X fighting along side them to cancel anything the repubes don’t like. Gen Xers are responding to Fox, basically telling them to f@ck off.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
11. I was not aware of the Fox News efforts. The point I was trying to make
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:35 AM
Mar 2021

is that no generation can be defined by a certain set of parameters.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
15. But that's not "coming for" Gen X. If the tweeter thinks Gen x is so tough
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:51 AM
Mar 2021

then they would appear to be saying Fox News is trying to get a good ally. Gen X may not be willing to play along, but no one is "coming for them".

And I haven't the faintest idea why young independence has a bearing on willingness or usefulness in a silly culture war.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
51. This particular set of tweets doesn't accurately portray the entire conversation.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:41 AM
Mar 2021

I read over 100 tweets yesterday that, as a whole, better explain what Fox News started and how Gen Xers responded.

I don't know why the OP decided to post this set of tweets. There are others that better explain the whole conversation.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
33. But that is just anecdotal.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:31 AM
Mar 2021

We cannot really ignore the large scale change that took place. To say that you were a latch key kid so that means that generationally nothing changed is ignoring the circumstances were very real and backed up by data. Women had a place in the workplace and were more free to explore those options finally. And there may have been some less than ideal situations that led to that. The number of single parents, divorce rates, poverty and shrinking middle class.... BUT... That doesn’t mean that what gen x kids went through on a generational scale wasn’t very real and a very large change on a national level.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
35. After WWII women were already in the workforce
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:40 AM
Mar 2021

and entire neighborhoods were latchkey kids. I'm not discounting this generation's struggles. We could wander the streets without being murdered or kidnapped, they couldn't and can't.

I'm not quite sure what your point is here. I don't know if we agree or not, but welcome to DU.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
39. Actually crime peaked in the 70s-90s.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:00 AM
Mar 2021

Crime the last two decades is as low as it was in the 50s and early 60s. The streets are very safe right now. 24/7 news makes things look worse than they are.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
42. that's when I was latchkey in the mid 50s
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:06 AM
Mar 2021

and all through the 60s and then VietNam changed everything. VietNam and the Pill.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
56. By the facts that I have found
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:37 AM
Mar 2021

Stats from WWII:

In 1944, 37 percent of all adult women were employed. In 1944, women comprised 35.4 percent of the civilian labor force. In 1945, women comprised 36.1 percent of the civilian labor force. This all continued to rise to this day with women's participation rate in 1980 reaching 55%. I agree I am not sure if we are disagreeing or not. THere has been countless amounts of research done on this very issue with most of it coming to the conclusion that Gen X did endure a very sigificant social change. It isn't imagined or made up. There is a very large difference between what people of the boomer generation grew up with and what Gen X grew up with. So indeed there really isn't an disagreement to be had.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
30. A boomer ignoring the plight of the Gen Xer to lecture about how hard they had it.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:15 AM
Mar 2021

Thats pretty much the whole ball of wax in a nutshell.

Don’t get me wrong I love my boomer parents but I think most Geb Xers are over that whole schpiel by now.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
34. Yeah, and I get sick of the banket slagging of boomers. What paradise did we walk in on?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:36 AM
Mar 2021

You don't hate your folks, you just hate who they are.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
53. Please don't tell me what I hate and do not hate.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:26 AM
Mar 2021

Especially in regards to my parents. That i over the line and inappropriate.

What is at discussion is what Gen Xers faced as a particular group. One of the biggest things they encountered and had to deal with was neglect. They certianly weren't the first or the only people to have faced neglect but from a standpoint of how our population functioned there was an identifiable difference. Gone were the days of the stay home parent which was pretty standard in generations before it.

What I was replying to was the point being missed that rather than continue the discussion about wha Gen X kids were dealing with (neglect and left to fend for themselves as a generation) the reply was "But what about me?"...... Which was pretty hilarious to me.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
85. The OP didn't mention Boomers at all.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:36 PM
Mar 2021

Some Boomers felt left out, I guess, and just had to make the thread about them.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
87. True enough. But the comment I responded to did ...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:42 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15236623

30. A boomer ignoring the plight of the Gen Xer to lecture about how hard they had it.

Thats pretty much the whole ball of wax in a nutshell.

Don’t get me wrong I love my boomer parents but I think most Geb Xers are over that whole schpiel by now.


I offer you this in the name of peace love and bbq:

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
89. That comment was in response to one of those left-out Boomers
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:59 PM
Mar 2021

who apparently felt compelled to make the thread about them.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
37. Yes, each successive generation has had
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:54 AM
Mar 2021

more difficulties and conveniences than we had as boomer children. We were the tv channel changers, you have your tv in your hand. We could wander the streets for hours on end without fear of harm and every minute of your lives are beset with fear of violence. We were becoming upwardly mobile and you were being slowly or not so slowly impoverished by trickle down.

I do have great empathy for the hardships that so many people have to endure. I hope that Gen Xer get truly involved in politics and shape the future.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
58. My point isn't that..
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:44 AM
Mar 2021

My point isn't to dismiss the challegnes of each generation. Certainly not those of the boomer generation. THey had to deal with the fallout from their parents fighting a world war, and they themselves dealing with the Viet Nam war, watching their president being assasinated, gas shortages, cuban missile crisis, and a bazillion other things. My point in this is that the reply I questioned was "But I had to....."

The conversation wasn't about the boomers. The piece was about Gen X and that reply is very close to the heart of the issue that Gen X had to deal with. Understood that the reply may be. in jest but at the same time it illustrates precisely what our generation had to deal with. Doesn't mean that we had things worse or better than any other generation at all. But it was a spot on representation of that issue.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
88. Ya know, if I felt that way, I'd be sure I voted. I know I feel fucked over by my parent's ...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:58 PM
Mar 2021

... generation and by some of my fellow Boomers, so I am sure to vote and encourage everyone to vote.

Disengaging helps the them and hurts the us.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
94. Well in 2018...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:05 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/


Gen Z, Millennials and Gen X outvoted older generations in 2018 midterms
BY ANTHONY CILLUFFO AND RICHARD FRY

Voters in Missouri take part in November’s elections. Turnout reached a record high for the 2018 midterms. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Midterm voter turnout reached a modern high in 2018, and Generation Z, Millennials and Generation X accounted for a narrow majority of those voters, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of newly available Census Bureau data.

Younger generations outvoted Boomer and prior generations in 2018The three younger generations – those ages 18 to 53 in 2018 – reported casting 62.2 million votes, compared with 60.1 million cast by Baby Boomers and older generations. It’s not the first time the younger generations outvoted their elders: The same pattern occurred in the 2016 presidential election.
 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
96. Yeah I think that is right on.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:18 PM
Mar 2021

I worry about the number of Gen X trump supporters. That total scares me a lot.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
104. "I know I feel fucked over by my parent's generation and by some of my fellow Boomers,"
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 01:59 AM
Mar 2021

As well you should, since the majority of them gleefully voted for Trump.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
14. Omg I know right?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:47 AM
Mar 2021

Kids gotta go through metal detectors to get to math class, and you're worried about 'screen time'.?!

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
108. Excellent point
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:27 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe its because they don't know you're supposed to unplug the toaster before you reach in with a knife to get your stuck pop tart out?

BTW - I survived that. Live and learn with singed eyebrows

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
38. And it'd better be avacado toast.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:57 AM
Mar 2021

FTR: We love avacado toast, too - it's something aging boomers can do ourselves because some millennials think the mess in the world is a generational proposition, won't come and visit ol' ma and pa anymore.

I hope to be around long enough to hear the next generation lay it all on the millennials. I will be laughing out loud.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
18. Plank Owner
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:54 AM
Mar 2021

1965.

Do not forget
Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq Twice.
Economy Major Collapse Twice by Republicans
S&L collapse and bail out. Mortgage collapse and bail out.

We do not forget. We know what Cancel Culture is really. We have been cancelled our whole lives.


Volaris

(10,272 posts)
32. And the whole time, fed nonsensical myths about Bootstraps, Hard Work, and the American Dream.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:31 AM
Mar 2021

You're right, were over all that bullshit lol.

We bought our own bikes, we bought our own cars, we bought our own college, and NOW we know that we paid too much for ALL of it, compared to our boomer parents.

Green New Deal is gonna get done in one form or another, and WE understand that the buggy whip makers can go get a job at the transmission factory if they want.

And fox news can go fuck themselves.

Hugin

(33,165 posts)
45. Meanwhile, our late boomer siblings (for those of us on the front edge)...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:12 AM
Mar 2021

have been pulling up every ladder they can find to the point Xers are statistically non-existent in upper management positions and 'careers'. Always, a 'junior' partner. Expendable. The Help.

No defined benefit pensions for us and as we're about to find out SS has been pilfered as well.

Work 'till you drop. Is the way of the Xers.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
52. I for one, dont have an issue with putting in the hard work of climbing the castle walls
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:45 AM
Mar 2021

cause they pulled up all the ladders and locked the front gates.

But the people who built that castle would now be well-advised that IF we manage to take it from them, they wont still have their heads to witness us tearing it down to give the blocks to our kids to build houses with.

The voting rights bills are the key. The castle owners know it.
The filibuster is the Locked Gates. Lets get this done (it's one less task for our kids to have to do when its their turn.).

Hugin

(33,165 posts)
74. Keep in mind, the Xers were the first generation to grow up in a reality where they had given up...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:06 PM
Mar 2021

on any pretense of Civil Defense during the Cold War.

In favor of MAD (mutually assured destruction) as a strategy.

So, like in COVID. We were left YOYO.

I clearly remember pondering whether it was preferable to try to survive for a short time and die a horrendous anonymous un-mourned death, alone in a post thermonuclear holocaust nightmare world or paint a big 'X' on my ass and lie down on top of some strategically important target... Yeh, I was eight.

We're already very aware that 'everybody dies at the end'. People who have confronted their own mortality are dangerous. They choose their battles carefully.

I'd like something better as a world for today's youngsters to grow up. They deserve their innocence and wide eyed wonder.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
75. Then maybe it's time we show our kids how climbing really works.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:18 PM
Mar 2021

Most of us have now got 20 to 30 years of toughing it out under our adult belts, and soon we will have less living ladder-pullers atop that wall.

We can take that fucker

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
43. I know. Baby boomers caused the great depression, WWI & II, Korea, Viet Nam, ...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:09 AM
Mar 2021

Bophal, the Lindberg kidnapping, the Pandemic of 1918; Lizzie Bordon was a baby boomer.

My problem is somebody forgot to give me my share of the booty we stole from millennials. Regardless of the source of millennial angst, baby boomers by and large are not rich.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
55. My post was of what we have endured
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:36 AM
Mar 2021

And we are stronger for it.
Not of blame nor wealth. In all actuality it had nothing to do with Boomer's at all.
We were talking about Gen-X the forgotten Generation.
Your post made that point quite well. Going from Boomers, strait to Millennials.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
60. Boomers aren't mentioned once that I could see
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:07 PM
Mar 2021

But, it's a reflex, I think. They can't help it

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
105. It does rather illustrate the point, doesn't it?
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:15 AM
Mar 2021

We can't just have a thread to discuss the experiences of Gen. X, Millennials, or Gen. Z. Some Boomers will invariably try to make it about them.

MiHale

(9,744 posts)
19. Created in 1952...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:59 AM
Mar 2021

Mom always worked outside the home (executive secretary), Dad was a traveling salesman gone sometimes up to 5 weeks at a time.

Extended family was close in the neighborhood so help was around if needed. My older sister, by 4 years, was in charge of dinner meals, pre-planned by Mom but made by her. I was in charge of cutting grass, shoveling snow, raking leaves, garbage, vacuuming the house. Younger sis, by 15 months, helped my older sister and myself in our duties where and when she was needed. Homework and studies after dinner.

Yeah, right gen x ...first latchkey kids. Shut up!
No internet
No video games
No cell phones
Radio, no tv till I was in 3rd grade. Wow that was a big deal!
No seat belts
No electrical outlet covers.
No microwave ovens
No safety latches on drawers or cabinets.
The protection we had from most things was...”Don’t do anything stupid, be careful”.

Our gen survived all that...yeah you’re tough.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
36. There are always outliers. That your mom worked, seems like a statistical anomaly for your age group
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:40 AM
Mar 2021

But please understand, I suspect no one here is trying to diminish your own experience...more like, you just got to our party a few hours early (and your own insight can be considered very useful)!

Johnny2X2X

(19,069 posts)
41. I think Gen X was the last generation that fought in school
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:05 AM
Mar 2021

Got in all kinds of fights in grade/middle/high school. Some more serious than others. There was always a pecking order through 9th grade or so on who was the toughest kid and occasionally things would have to be worked out. Never seemed to escalate much beyond a 1 on 1 dust up and you'd get sent home for the day or get detention, and you'd be friends with the other kid the next day.

Nowadays you'd get expelled from one fight at school much less your 3rd one of the semester.

And you'd definitely hide it from your parents when you got home. "Got elbowed playing basketball." "Slipped and fell on the grass."

Maybe that was just my experience, but it seemed like most of the kids I knew that grew up in the 80s knew what is was to be in a fist fight.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
61. I've noticed this as well
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:09 PM
Mar 2021

Neither of my boys has been in a fight and never talk about any fights happening in school. Which obviously I'm okay with. That can stay in the past. I remember fights happening regularly in school.

Johnny2X2X

(19,069 posts)
63. Yeah, I think it's good kids don't have to deal with that
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:20 PM
Mar 2021

But there was some good in it too. Had a beef with someone, worked it out with a fight, and moved on, people didn't hold grudges and fights rarely turned into really serious assaults. Now it seems like people don't know how to control themselves so any fight turns into a life or death struggle. It seemed like it actually led to less bullying, but who really knows.

And there were plenty of kids that never fought and never had to fight. It's just the consequences of it are so severe now.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
68. Fighting has also been hyper-ritualized in MMA and similar forums
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:39 PM
Mar 2021

Sure, we had boxing and other types of sports, but it was also much more informal knuckle game stuff.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
66. Agreed...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:37 PM
Mar 2021

Fist fights starting in 2nd grade, and lasting pretty much through high school.

Random fist fights on the streets, too. Shit would pop off at any time.

Some millenials and Y/Zers ain't never been punched in the face, and it shows.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
83. The Remedy
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 02:40 PM
Mar 2021


I have a deviated septum from the 10's of fights I've been in. I'm not an outlier either. Makes it a bit easier to confront anti-maskers as I know most of them ain't gonna do shite.

Wingus Dingus

(8,055 posts)
69. Yes, some brutality was expected, and the adults were
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:41 PM
Mar 2021

basically, "Hey break it up over there!" if they noticed at all. LOL.

Johnny2X2X

(19,069 posts)
71. That was the crazy part
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:52 PM
Mar 2021

The adults rarely stopped things. You'd have beef in some neighborhood and ended up getting chased by a group of kids and the adults all around would be no help, they just ignored it, or maybe yelled "knock it off."

And you'd be at the Mall and see a group of kids close to your same age and you just knew there was going to be trouble, and there was no one to stop it. Just boys being boys. But even in those cases though, more times than not even if there was a skirmish, you might see the same kids the next week and end up playing football together in the park. There weren't blood feuds until maybe people got a little bit older.

But I guess I learned to stand up for myself, learned conflict resolution with and without violence, and learned to let bygones be bygones. Never would consider using my fists now unless it was 100% in defense.

Wingus Dingus

(8,055 posts)
73. Yes, that was the funny part--the "knock it off" and the shrugs or the occasional
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:02 PM
Mar 2021

detention when we were kids... no psychologists and counselors and principal-parent meetings like when my children (late millennials, mid-1990's) got into a scuffle at school. I think because older generations thought that bullying and fights were kind of normal, and you only stepped in when it started getting out of hand--otherwise let them sort it out amongst themselves, was the thinking. I do think it's better to teach children that it's NEVER ok to hit, threaten, bully, gang up on, etc. It's just amusing that we were the last to undergo it as a societally-accepted part of growing up, learning a lesson.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
84. I fought a kid in the schoolyard after school in fourth grade
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 03:22 PM
Mar 2021

A few parents stood around and watched.

(I fought this same kid like 5 times through 4-7th grades...we really didn't like each other!)

Honestly, I can't even imagine!

Wingus Dingus

(8,055 posts)
91. Isn't that weird? But I know what you're saying--
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:09 PM
Mar 2021

I'm female, so didn't get into any more than the occasional shove or kick among my classmates when I was young, but I had two older brothers, one of whom had some learning disability/ADHD issues and sometimes got into fights. Everyone was pretty nonchalant about it.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
82. It's Funny to See All the Republican...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 02:29 PM
Mar 2021

ass-holes from the 90's, who started all of this shit BTW, suddenly trotted out as voices of reason for the GOP. I remember those fuckers and what they did.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
101. +1,000
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:50 PM
Mar 2021

Evangelical right wingers don't let their kids:

- date
- front hug
- dance
- wear clothes shorter than veilless burqas
- swim in anything more revealing than a full body suit
- play role-playing games
- watch non-Christian themed TV shows or cartoons
- listen to non-Christian themed music
- have openly non-Christian friends
- act effeminately if they are boys
- go to normal school or, if they do, attend classes where anything is being discussed that doesn't fit their worldview (e.g. evolution, sex ed)

But yeah, "cancel culture" is totally a left-wing thing that came out of nowhere in the past few years.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
48. Love this! I'm not technically a Xer, born in 61, but I fit that category way more than
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 AM
Mar 2021

Any other. I’m for sure not a boomer.

Beetwasher.

(2,977 posts)
50. Had My First Job at 9 Delivering Papers, 11 Cleaning the Liquor Store Parking Lot, 13 Washing Dishes
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:16 AM
Mar 2021

15 I was running the gas station late nights to 1am and making fried chicken after school (yes, 2 jobs and high school), so, yeah.

TxGuitar

(4,200 posts)
57. I think we Boomers taught
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:37 AM
Mar 2021

our GenX kids well. I was born in 1956 (Mrs. TXguitar here) and hubby is 1966. Daughters born in 84 and 88--- (Mr. came into the picture in 92).......my daughters were educated to make a difference in the world, that color, sexuality doesn't define you, etc).....

Celerity

(43,419 posts)
59. People born 1984 and 1988 are Millennials (1981-1996).
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 11:59 AM
Mar 2021

Gen X is 1965 to 1980.

Micro Gens inside Gen X

1965/66 skip/blank/gappers

1977-1980 Xennials aka Carter Babies aka Generation Catalano

https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html

Micro Gen inside Millennial Gen

Zennials aka Zillenniasl (1992-1998)

I was born in 1996, literally the last year of the Millennial Gen or, in other previous boundary calculations (that used 1995 as the last year) the first year of Gen Z.

(I am more Millennial that Gen Z in outlook, as I skipped multiple grades, started uni at 15, always been around older people for friends, I relate best to people born in 1989 to 1994 or so)

Wingus Dingus

(8,055 posts)
64. Your kids are millennials. We are talking about people born early 60's thru 1980.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:32 PM
Mar 2021

People who are now in their mid 40's to 55 or 60.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
65. These posts about generations here always make me laugh. People really take this shit seriously?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 12:34 PM
Mar 2021

Funny stuff.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
78. The worst thing is that so many gen-x started working very young
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

And we are the group who had pensions eliminated AND Social Security retirement age raised. Our regular retirement age is 70, moved up in increments from 65. We need to get full retirement back down to 65 and remove the cap on Social Security taxes. It’s only applied to the first $137,700 of wages.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
81. '69 Here.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 02:26 PM
Mar 2021

I call myself a "Cold-War Democrat". We were born and bred to fight Russia. Of all the things I've seen in my life, the election of DJT as POTUS was probably the most shocking. ...maybe a tie with 9/11. We grew up watching this crook and somehow enough dumb MFers voted for him. I'm still shaking my damn head.

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