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Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle
Good luck coming for Gen X- every last one of them can fight. They put them into training at age 2, handed them the keys to the house at age 4 and had them cooking by 7 and with neighborhood jobs at 9.
Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle
Everyone over the age of 42 got some sort of story that starts with them fixing breakfast for school and ends with some wire like shit going down. They were escaping kidnappings, taking 5 subways solo at age 7. Like yall we (im xennial) soft. These people built for survival.
10:53 PM · Mar 15, 2021
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Shanelle Little @ShanelleLittle
Im just saying if I had to pick a fight with a generation Im not fighting with the folks were out here ironing their uniforms at age 5 and had 15 ways to get out a blood stain so their mom didnt get mad at ruining their good clothes. They the fuck around & find out generation.
10:56 PM · Mar 15, 2021
I'm a Gen-X plank owner - born in '65.
Duncanpup
(12,862 posts)Celerity
(43,419 posts)no real gen, caught between Boomers and Gen X. Has to do with demographics and other correlated statistics. I only learned this 2 years ago, from a friend's mother who was born in 1966, and now have had it confirmed by multiple people. Pretty fucking cool.
An older co-worker (full Swedish) of mine is late 1965 born, and he says he always uses his little micro gen to evade shite when people are whingeing on about Boomers and/or Gen Xers. He lived in the US for 5, 6 years when he was a bit younger and said it worked well there too.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)Who has said "I going to attack Generation X"? Is it in some way relevant to a Four Yorkshireman, "you were lucky, when I was a kid ..."-style rant?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)or if you think being on Twitter makes it relevant. The first tweet in the OP was not a reply to anything on Twitter.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)in their cancel culture nonsense, hoping this age group would help them cancel anything the repube party is against.
Gen Xers arent having it.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)For socially unacceptable behavior?
Complaint: I got fired for not going to work.
Gen-Xer: You dont say?
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)And is the parents of Gen Z. There are some mistakes out there like Cruz and Cotton but they also support equality, the environment, and fair pay.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)Im over 60, so dont say OK Boomer.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
NutmegYankee
(16,200 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,200 posts)I find it cute Fox news thinks that generations that had their music, movies, and video games demonized and nearly canceled would come to the defense of the generation that tried to do that cancelling.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)are survivors, but we also don't give a shit about much.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)And we just go 'meh...not worth the effort.'
Pissing us off tho, is a bad idea. It's why the gen-x moms in Portland didnt engage in the BLM protests their kids were attending, until AFTER they went down there just to see what their kids were doing, and got tear gassed for their trouble.
The next day, they actively picked fights with the cops and started committing federal crimes lol.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)societal pandering to the boomers. We had to worry about ourselves and make changes in other ways.
1965 here.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)We had better figure out what hills we want our flags planted on; if we dont, the chance to effect change will pass us by.
For the most part, I think we've made those kinds of decisions already...our hills (generally speaking) are not going to be the ones Fox fucking News pleads with us to die on lol.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)At least we can all laugh at Fox pleading.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)I'll be happy to assist.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)FSogol
(45,491 posts)jimfields33
(15,830 posts)Boomers had their first President Clinton when they were in their 40.s. Im 1969, so 51. I see boomers continuing until a millennial is elected. Just a hunch. Even Vice President Harris is a baby boomer.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)If Biden decides to go only one term, she's a real possibility.
jimfields33
(15,830 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,055 posts)children, for example. Student loan forgiveness. That's all political pandering to generations below Gen X. "Kids are expensive! College is expensive!" Yeah, I paid for all of that on my own, it wasn't free and I got no help beyond a couple of grants and the earned income tax credit. Took me 15 years to pay off my student loans. Gen X paid for our decisions in life, and we'll carry the burden into retirement.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)I'm a "trailing edge" Boomer. Born in 1959, graduated HS in 1977.
Tuition, etc., started skyrocketing right when I didn't need it to do so.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)to school through the snow, barefoot, uphill both ways
fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)is that they were the first who, as a group, pretty much raised themselves since both parents were usually working outside the home. These were the first latchkey kids.
This topic is trending because Fox News has recently tried to pull Gen X into their cancel culture movement. Fox is banking on Gen X fighting along side them to cancel anything the repubes dont like. Gen Xers are responding to Fox, basically telling them to f@ck off.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)is that no generation can be defined by a certain set of parameters.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)then they would appear to be saying Fox News is trying to get a good ally. Gen X may not be willing to play along, but no one is "coming for them".
And I haven't the faintest idea why young independence has a bearing on willingness or usefulness in a silly culture war.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)I read over 100 tweets yesterday that, as a whole, better explain what Fox News started and how Gen Xers responded.
I don't know why the OP decided to post this set of tweets. There are others that better explain the whole conversation.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)Nothing's new
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)We cannot really ignore the large scale change that took place. To say that you were a latch key kid so that means that generationally nothing changed is ignoring the circumstances were very real and backed up by data. Women had a place in the workplace and were more free to explore those options finally. And there may have been some less than ideal situations that led to that. The number of single parents, divorce rates, poverty and shrinking middle class.... BUT... That doesnt mean that what gen x kids went through on a generational scale wasnt very real and a very large change on a national level.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)and entire neighborhoods were latchkey kids. I'm not discounting this generation's struggles. We could wander the streets without being murdered or kidnapped, they couldn't and can't.
I'm not quite sure what your point is here. I don't know if we agree or not, but welcome to DU.
Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)Crime the last two decades is as low as it was in the 50s and early 60s. The streets are very safe right now. 24/7 news makes things look worse than they are.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)and all through the 60s and then VietNam changed everything. VietNam and the Pill.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Stats from WWII:
In 1944, 37 percent of all adult women were employed. In 1944, women comprised 35.4 percent of the civilian labor force. In 1945, women comprised 36.1 percent of the civilian labor force. This all continued to rise to this day with women's participation rate in 1980 reaching 55%. I agree I am not sure if we are disagreeing or not. THere has been countless amounts of research done on this very issue with most of it coming to the conclusion that Gen X did endure a very sigificant social change. It isn't imagined or made up. There is a very large difference between what people of the boomer generation grew up with and what Gen X grew up with. So indeed there really isn't an disagreement to be had.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Thats pretty much the whole ball of wax in a nutshell.
Dont get me wrong I love my boomer parents but I think most Geb Xers are over that whole schpiel by now.
marble falls
(57,112 posts)You don't hate your folks, you just hate who they are.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Especially in regards to my parents. That i over the line and inappropriate.
What is at discussion is what Gen Xers faced as a particular group. One of the biggest things they encountered and had to deal with was neglect. They certianly weren't the first or the only people to have faced neglect but from a standpoint of how our population functioned there was an identifiable difference. Gone were the days of the stay home parent which was pretty standard in generations before it.
What I was replying to was the point being missed that rather than continue the discussion about wha Gen X kids were dealing with (neglect and left to fend for themselves as a generation) the reply was "But what about me?"...... Which was pretty hilarious to me.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Some Boomers felt left out, I guess, and just had to make the thread about them.
marble falls
(57,112 posts)30. A boomer ignoring the plight of the Gen Xer to lecture about how hard they had it.
Thats pretty much the whole ball of wax in a nutshell.
Dont get me wrong I love my boomer parents but I think most Geb Xers are over that whole schpiel by now.
I offer you this in the name of peace love and bbq:
Mariana
(14,858 posts)who apparently felt compelled to make the thread about them.
marble falls
(57,112 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)That was the reason for my response.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and it figures Faux is what is behind it.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)more difficulties and conveniences than we had as boomer children. We were the tv channel changers, you have your tv in your hand. We could wander the streets for hours on end without fear of harm and every minute of your lives are beset with fear of violence. We were becoming upwardly mobile and you were being slowly or not so slowly impoverished by trickle down.
I do have great empathy for the hardships that so many people have to endure. I hope that Gen Xer get truly involved in politics and shape the future.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Like, I think we're involved.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)My point isn't to dismiss the challegnes of each generation. Certainly not those of the boomer generation. THey had to deal with the fallout from their parents fighting a world war, and they themselves dealing with the Viet Nam war, watching their president being assasinated, gas shortages, cuban missile crisis, and a bazillion other things. My point in this is that the reply I questioned was "But I had to....."
The conversation wasn't about the boomers. The piece was about Gen X and that reply is very close to the heart of the issue that Gen X had to deal with. Understood that the reply may be. in jest but at the same time it illustrates precisely what our generation had to deal with. Doesn't mean that we had things worse or better than any other generation at all. But it was a spot on representation of that issue.
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)I'm going to reread this to fully absorb the issue.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)marble falls
(57,112 posts)... generation and by some of my fellow Boomers, so I am sure to vote and encourage everyone to vote.
Disengaging helps the them and hurts the us.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Gen Z, Millennials and Gen X outvoted older generations in 2018 midterms
BY ANTHONY CILLUFFO AND RICHARD FRY
Voters in Missouri take part in Novembers elections. Turnout reached a record high for the 2018 midterms. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Midterm voter turnout reached a modern high in 2018, and Generation Z, Millennials and Generation X accounted for a narrow majority of those voters, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of newly available Census Bureau data.
Younger generations outvoted Boomer and prior generations in 2018The three younger generations those ages 18 to 53 in 2018 reported casting 62.2 million votes, compared with 60.1 million cast by Baby Boomers and older generations. Its not the first time the younger generations outvoted their elders: The same pattern occurred in the 2016 presidential election.
marble falls
(57,112 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)I worry about the number of Gen X trump supporters. That total scares me a lot.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)As well you should, since the majority of them gleefully voted for Trump.
treestar
(82,383 posts)what the older generation always says.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)I'm like - Seriously - your 12 year old needs you home to make their lunch?
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Kids gotta go through metal detectors to get to math class, and you're worried about 'screen time'.?!
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Maybe its because they don't know you're supposed to unplug the toaster before you reach in with a knife to get your stuck pop tart out?
BTW - I survived that. Live and learn with singed eyebrows
marble falls
(57,112 posts)FTR: We love avacado toast, too - it's something aging boomers can do ourselves because some millennials think the mess in the world is a generational proposition, won't come and visit ol' ma and pa anymore.
I hope to be around long enough to hear the next generation lay it all on the millennials. I will be laughing out loud.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)1965.
Do not forget
Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq Twice.
Economy Major Collapse Twice by Republicans
S&L collapse and bail out. Mortgage collapse and bail out.
We do not forget. We know what Cancel Culture is really. We have been cancelled our whole lives.
AKwannabe
(5,666 posts)Thread winner!
1970...
AwakeAtLast
(14,132 posts)So is my sister, we were born in the same year.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)You're right, were over all that bullshit lol.
We bought our own bikes, we bought our own cars, we bought our own college, and NOW we know that we paid too much for ALL of it, compared to our boomer parents.
Green New Deal is gonna get done in one form or another, and WE understand that the buggy whip makers can go get a job at the transmission factory if they want.
And fox news can go fuck themselves.
Hugin
(33,165 posts)have been pulling up every ladder they can find to the point Xers are statistically non-existent in upper management positions and 'careers'. Always, a 'junior' partner. Expendable. The Help.
No defined benefit pensions for us and as we're about to find out SS has been pilfered as well.
Work 'till you drop. Is the way of the Xers.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)cause they pulled up all the ladders and locked the front gates.
But the people who built that castle would now be well-advised that IF we manage to take it from them, they wont still have their heads to witness us tearing it down to give the blocks to our kids to build houses with.
The voting rights bills are the key. The castle owners know it.
The filibuster is the Locked Gates. Lets get this done (it's one less task for our kids to have to do when its their turn.).
Hugin
(33,165 posts)on any pretense of Civil Defense during the Cold War.
In favor of MAD (mutually assured destruction) as a strategy.
So, like in COVID. We were left YOYO.
I clearly remember pondering whether it was preferable to try to survive for a short time and die a horrendous anonymous un-mourned death, alone in a post thermonuclear holocaust nightmare world or paint a big 'X' on my ass and lie down on top of some strategically important target... Yeh, I was eight.
We're already very aware that 'everybody dies at the end'. People who have confronted their own mortality are dangerous. They choose their battles carefully.
I'd like something better as a world for today's youngsters to grow up. They deserve their innocence and wide eyed wonder.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Most of us have now got 20 to 30 years of toughing it out under our adult belts, and soon we will have less living ladder-pullers atop that wall.
We can take that fucker
marble falls
(57,112 posts)Bophal, the Lindberg kidnapping, the Pandemic of 1918; Lizzie Bordon was a baby boomer.
My problem is somebody forgot to give me my share of the booty we stole from millennials. Regardless of the source of millennial angst, baby boomers by and large are not rich.
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)And we are stronger for it.
Not of blame nor wealth. In all actuality it had nothing to do with Boomer's at all.
We were talking about Gen-X the forgotten Generation.
Your post made that point quite well. Going from Boomers, strait to Millennials.
kcr
(15,317 posts)But, it's a reflex, I think. They can't help it
Mariana
(14,858 posts)We can't just have a thread to discuss the experiences of Gen. X, Millennials, or Gen. Z. Some Boomers will invariably try to make it about them.
MiHale
(9,744 posts)Mom always worked outside the home (executive secretary), Dad was a traveling salesman gone sometimes up to 5 weeks at a time.
Extended family was close in the neighborhood so help was around if needed. My older sister, by 4 years, was in charge of dinner meals, pre-planned by Mom but made by her. I was in charge of cutting grass, shoveling snow, raking leaves, garbage, vacuuming the house. Younger sis, by 15 months, helped my older sister and myself in our duties where and when she was needed. Homework and studies after dinner.
Yeah, right gen x ...first latchkey kids. Shut up!
No internet
No video games
No cell phones
Radio, no tv till I was in 3rd grade. Wow that was a big deal!
No seat belts
No electrical outlet covers.
No microwave ovens
No safety latches on drawers or cabinets.
The protection we had from most things was...Dont do anything stupid, be careful.
Our gen survived all that...yeah youre tough.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)But please understand, I suspect no one here is trying to diminish your own experience...more like, you just got to our party a few hours early (and your own insight can be considered very useful)!
yardwork
(61,657 posts)I can affirm everything the Gen Xers are writing here.
Johnny2X2X
(19,069 posts)Got in all kinds of fights in grade/middle/high school. Some more serious than others. There was always a pecking order through 9th grade or so on who was the toughest kid and occasionally things would have to be worked out. Never seemed to escalate much beyond a 1 on 1 dust up and you'd get sent home for the day or get detention, and you'd be friends with the other kid the next day.
Nowadays you'd get expelled from one fight at school much less your 3rd one of the semester.
And you'd definitely hide it from your parents when you got home. "Got elbowed playing basketball." "Slipped and fell on the grass."
Maybe that was just my experience, but it seemed like most of the kids I knew that grew up in the 80s knew what is was to be in a fist fight.
kcr
(15,317 posts)Neither of my boys has been in a fight and never talk about any fights happening in school. Which obviously I'm okay with. That can stay in the past. I remember fights happening regularly in school.
Johnny2X2X
(19,069 posts)But there was some good in it too. Had a beef with someone, worked it out with a fight, and moved on, people didn't hold grudges and fights rarely turned into really serious assaults. Now it seems like people don't know how to control themselves so any fight turns into a life or death struggle. It seemed like it actually led to less bullying, but who really knows.
And there were plenty of kids that never fought and never had to fight. It's just the consequences of it are so severe now.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Sure, we had boxing and other types of sports, but it was also much more informal knuckle game stuff.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Fist fights starting in 2nd grade, and lasting pretty much through high school.
Random fist fights on the streets, too. Shit would pop off at any time.
Some millenials and Y/Zers ain't never been punched in the face, and it shows.
ruet
(10,039 posts)I have a deviated septum from the 10's of fights I've been in. I'm not an outlier either. Makes it a bit easier to confront anti-maskers as I know most of them ain't gonna do shite.
Wingus Dingus
(8,055 posts)basically, "Hey break it up over there!" if they noticed at all. LOL.
Johnny2X2X
(19,069 posts)The adults rarely stopped things. You'd have beef in some neighborhood and ended up getting chased by a group of kids and the adults all around would be no help, they just ignored it, or maybe yelled "knock it off."
And you'd be at the Mall and see a group of kids close to your same age and you just knew there was going to be trouble, and there was no one to stop it. Just boys being boys. But even in those cases though, more times than not even if there was a skirmish, you might see the same kids the next week and end up playing football together in the park. There weren't blood feuds until maybe people got a little bit older.
But I guess I learned to stand up for myself, learned conflict resolution with and without violence, and learned to let bygones be bygones. Never would consider using my fists now unless it was 100% in defense.
Wingus Dingus
(8,055 posts)detention when we were kids... no psychologists and counselors and principal-parent meetings like when my children (late millennials, mid-1990's) got into a scuffle at school. I think because older generations thought that bullying and fights were kind of normal, and you only stepped in when it started getting out of hand--otherwise let them sort it out amongst themselves, was the thinking. I do think it's better to teach children that it's NEVER ok to hit, threaten, bully, gang up on, etc. It's just amusing that we were the last to undergo it as a societally-accepted part of growing up, learning a lesson.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)A few parents stood around and watched.
(I fought this same kid like 5 times through 4-7th grades...we really didn't like each other!)
Honestly, I can't even imagine!
Wingus Dingus
(8,055 posts)I'm female, so didn't get into any more than the occasional shove or kick among my classmates when I was young, but I had two older brothers, one of whom had some learning disability/ADHD issues and sometimes got into fights. Everyone was pretty nonchalant about it.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)ruet
(10,039 posts)ass-holes from the 90's, who started all of this shit BTW, suddenly trotted out as voices of reason for the GOP. I remember those fuckers and what they did.
meadowlander
(4,399 posts)Evangelical right wingers don't let their kids:
- date
- front hug
- dance
- wear clothes shorter than veilless burqas
- swim in anything more revealing than a full body suit
- play role-playing games
- watch non-Christian themed TV shows or cartoons
- listen to non-Christian themed music
- have openly non-Christian friends
- act effeminately if they are boys
- go to normal school or, if they do, attend classes where anything is being discussed that doesn't fit their worldview (e.g. evolution, sex ed)
But yeah, "cancel culture" is totally a left-wing thing that came out of nowhere in the past few years.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Any other. Im for sure not a boomer.
Bettie
(16,111 posts)has little in common with boomers.
Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)15 I was running the gas station late nights to 1am and making fried chicken after school (yes, 2 jobs and high school), so, yeah.
TxGuitar
(4,200 posts)our GenX kids well. I was born in 1956 (Mrs. TXguitar here) and hubby is 1966. Daughters born in 84 and 88--- (Mr. came into the picture in 92).......my daughters were educated to make a difference in the world, that color, sexuality doesn't define you, etc).....
Celerity
(43,419 posts)Gen X is 1965 to 1980.
Micro Gens inside Gen X
1965/66 skip/blank/gappers
1977-1980 Xennials aka Carter Babies aka Generation Catalano
https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html
Micro Gen inside Millennial Gen
Zennials aka Zillenniasl (1992-1998)
I was born in 1996, literally the last year of the Millennial Gen or, in other previous boundary calculations (that used 1995 as the last year) the first year of Gen Z.
(I am more Millennial that Gen Z in outlook, as I skipped multiple grades, started uni at 15, always been around older people for friends, I relate best to people born in 1989 to 1994 or so)
Wingus Dingus
(8,055 posts)People who are now in their mid 40's to 55 or 60.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Funny stuff.
XanaDUer2
(10,687 posts)I was cleaning the house at ten. Cooking my own meals.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)And we are the group who had pensions eliminated AND Social Security retirement age raised. Our regular retirement age is 70, moved up in increments from 65. We need to get full retirement back down to 65 and remove the cap on Social Security taxes. Its only applied to the first $137,700 of wages.
ruet
(10,039 posts)I call myself a "Cold-War Democrat". We were born and bred to fight Russia. Of all the things I've seen in my life, the election of DJT as POTUS was probably the most shocking. ...maybe a tie with 9/11. We grew up watching this crook and somehow enough dumb MFers voted for him. I'm still shaking my damn head.
2golddogs
(107 posts)1965 checking in