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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:32 AM Mar 2021

MAGAt 'pastor' tells 'Christians': Stop praying for unity and arm yourselves for civil war

Appearing on The Jim Bakker Show this Monday, Trump-loving pastor Rick Joyner had some grim news for his fellow Christians: start forming militias in anticipation of the coming civil war over the “evil that is taking over our land.”

“I tell you we have to be ready to defend our families, our communities, our neighbors, our churches, everything because it is coming home,” Joyner said. “I don’t believe there’s going to be a neighborhood exempt from what’s coming.”

Joyner went on to say the God showed him in a prophetic dream that militias will soon be “popping up like mushrooms all over the country.”

“Even Jesus said at one point, ‘I didn’t come to bring peace, I came to bring a sword,’” Joyner added. “We’re in that time right now. You can go on praying for unity and for the parties to come together and all that, but it’s not the time for that. That’s not going to happen right now.”

“There’s a time for peace and a time for war … Well, we’re not headed towards peace right now, we’re headed towards conflict and war, and we need to prepare for it. We need to put out the word. People need to be prepared.”


https://deadstate.org/right-wing-pastor-tells-christians-stop-praying-for-unity-and-arm-yourselves-for-civil-war/

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MAGAt 'pastor' tells 'Christians': Stop praying for unity and arm yourselves for civil war (Original Post) 634-5789 Mar 2021 OP
Scared of "what's coming" mainer Mar 2021 #1
More scraps for the dirty poors than he would otherwise approve of. Volaris Mar 2021 #21
He mentions people coming over the border (in the linked video) IcyPeas Mar 2021 #24
stop praying? RicROC Mar 2021 #2
Fear of demographics equals fear of Democrats. Marcuse Mar 2021 #3
Years ago Laurelin Mar 2021 #4
And when that civil war is declared, Rick Joyner will be right behind you DFW Mar 2021 #5
This. All day. n/t ms liberty Mar 2021 #6
Today's republicans would throw the people out of the Temple for... Whiskeytide Mar 2021 #15
Sounds just like what Jesus would do... jcgoldie Mar 2021 #7
As an atheist, I never understood why "Christians" needed guns. panader0 Mar 2021 #8
In the Era of Trump I've come to believe... Girard442 Mar 2021 #11
Even Jesus wasn't above using violence, when he got angry enough. Mariana Mar 2021 #12
What was the weapon? panader0 Mar 2021 #14
A "scourge" in some translations, or a whip made of cords. Mariana Mar 2021 #16
Jihad, christo-fascist style. Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #9
Exactly this! Zoonart Mar 2021 #10
Wow. "Religiously motivated hate groups could avoid prosecution for criminal activities Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #18
Yep... really disturbing. Zoonart Mar 2021 #20
The thing is, Jesus never challenged Roman government. tanyev Mar 2021 #13
Innit it interesting how they always miss that part? Volaris Mar 2021 #22
Live by the sword... Maeve Mar 2021 #17
So when are we going to remove tax-exempt status from churches? IL Dem Mar 2021 #19
Clearly, this Joyner character needs to be monitored closely. One false move and ... nt Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #23

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
21. More scraps for the dirty poors than he would otherwise approve of.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 06:48 PM
Mar 2021

He very well knows that if government can actually meet people's needs and increase their overall happiness, he will have to figure out a way to make his own damn house payment.

Cant be having any of that, no sir.

IcyPeas

(21,893 posts)
24. He mentions people coming over the border (in the linked video)
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 07:04 PM
Mar 2021

So I guess he wants to defend his neighborhood from brown people and children.

Is he Ron Johnson's pastor? They are the same: racists.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
2. stop praying?
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:48 AM
Mar 2021

Seems to me that's a very unChristian attitude. Rick Joyner is therefore, not the head of a church but instead a political organization. TAX IT!

Laurelin

(529 posts)
4. Years ago
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:48 AM
Mar 2021

I took my daughters to a concert at some Texas megachurch (I don't remember the name). There was this huge painting on a wall of Jesus in camouflage, armed to the teeth. Pretty much gave me the horrors. My church still teaches the Prince of Peace view of Jesus. Also that God is love. I hadn't realized what the not so silent majority believed. Some time later a Baptist friend told me about a dream ("vision&quot he had of being in his church, shooting invaders. And I thought churches welcomed guests.

It's like a whole 'nother country.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
5. And when that civil war is declared, Rick Joyner will be right behind you
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 08:49 AM
Mar 2021

Like about 500 miles behind you, watching it all on CNN, and sipping on a whiskey sour while he comments on the phone to some cable TV show, asking for people to send him money.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
15. Today's republicans would throw the people out of the Temple for...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:06 AM
Mar 2021

... interfering with the business activities. Praise be to the Capitalists.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
8. As an atheist, I never understood why "Christians" needed guns.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:11 AM
Mar 2021

What was Jesus packing? They claim to follow a man called "The Prince of Peace", a man who,
according to the Bible , said to "turn the other cheek", and yet these hypocrites arm themselves
to the teeth.. Hell, we go to war for our supposed "Christian" values. I have never owned a gun,
except for a BB gun when I was a kid that my parents bought me.
"There's a time for peace and a time for war" this guy says, trying to quote Ecclesiastes, which is
an Old Testament book. In my limited knowledge, Christ is in the New Testament.

Girard442

(6,077 posts)
11. In the Era of Trump I've come to believe...
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:38 AM
Mar 2021

...that Evangelicals see Jesus as a Santa Claus that appeals to slightly older children.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
12. Even Jesus wasn't above using violence, when he got angry enough.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:50 AM
Mar 2021

According to the stories, when he was offended by the activities on the Temple grounds, he flew into a rage. Then he went and constructed a weapon, attacked the moneychangers, drove the animals out into the street, and vandalized the place.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
16. A "scourge" in some translations, or a whip made of cords.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:07 AM
Mar 2021

John 2 : 13-15, NIV - When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
18. Wow. "Religiously motivated hate groups could avoid prosecution for criminal activities
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:15 AM
Mar 2021

associated with exercising their beliefs"

They get more dangerous by the minute.

Zoonart

(11,870 posts)
20. Yep... really disturbing.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 10:32 AM
Mar 2021

I grew up in the Protestant tradition. My family were the pillars of the church we attended. My Grandfather literally built the church and my family's names are on the plaques that designate the donation of the beautiful stained glass windows.

By the time my parents passed, they had mostly left the church. They were disturbed by the clear drift to the right by the congregation.
I had long before taken my own spiritual journey to Buddhism and they practically disowned me for it.

I am glad they did not live to see what passes for Christianity in this country today. They were spared Trumpism and COVID and there is some comfort in that.





tanyev

(42,572 posts)
13. The thing is, Jesus never challenged Roman government.
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 09:52 AM
Mar 2021

His strongest words and actions were always directed toward the local religious leaders.

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