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https://undark.org/2021/03/17/lab-leak-science-lost-in-politics/Please read this article if you have any genuine interest whatsoever in the question of Covid19's origin.
If you think you already know the answer, please read this article.
If you post replies in threads on this topic, please read this article, so that you can be better informed and not appear foolish, or worse, spread misinformation (such as that the question is settled, proven by science).
Please read this article. Below is just a small excerpt:
The WHO investigation follows a year during which debates over SARS-CoV-2s origins turned increasingly acrimonious. Chinese officials were, and still are, unwilling to provide information that might settle lingering questions about where the virus came from, and in the absence of critical data, expert views coalesced around two competing scenarios: One that a lab leak was plausible and needed more scrutiny, and another that SARS-CoV-2 had almost certainly spilled over from nature and that the odds of a lab leak were so remote that the possibility could essentially be taken off the table. Those insisting on a natural origin say the virus lacks genetic features that would show it to have been deliberately engineered. But its also possible that SARS-CoV-2 evolved naturally in the wild before it was brought into a lab to be studied, only to subsequently escape. The Wuhan Institute of Virology, which many see as the likeliest site of a breakout, houses one of the largest collections of coronaviruses in the world.
David Relman, a microbiologist at Stanford University, says a lab leak was never the subject of a fair and dispassionate discussion of the facts as we know them. Instead, tempers soon began to flare as those calling for a closer look at possible lab origins were dismissed as conspiracy theorists spouting misinformation. Election-year politics and growing Sinophobic sentiments only added to the tensions. Attacks on Asian Americans had been escalating since the pandemic began, and with then-President Trump fuming about a Chinese virus, many scientists and reporters became cautious about saying anything that might justify the rhetoric of his administration, says Jamie Metzl, a senior fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based Atlantic Council, an international affairs think tank.
It could have been career suicide for scientists to voice suspicions about a possible lab leak, says Metzl, especially when there was already a long history of viral disease outbreaks spilling over from nature. Alina Chan, a post-doctoral fellow specializing in gene therapy and cell engineering at the Broad Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, echoes that view. Chan says the risk of challenging the orthodoxy that SARS-CoV-2 has natural origins an entirely plausible hypothesis, she maintains is greatest for established scientists in infectious disease with supervisory roles and staffs to support. She herself has spent much of the last year calling for more scrutiny of a potential lab leak, claiming that as a post-doc, she has less to lose.
The vitriol also obscures a broader imperative, Relman says, which is that uncovering the virus origins is crucial to stopping the next pandemic. Threats from both lab accidents and natural spillovers are growing simultaneously, as humans move steadily into wild places, and new biosafety labs grow in number around the world. This is why the origins question is so important, Relman says.
Much more at link:
https://undark.org/2021/03/17/lab-leak-science-lost-in-politics/
hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)and others by malign foreign players. STOP THIS BULLSHIT. It has been debunked by actual virologists from CDC, WHO, EURO-CDC and others!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=15255362&pid=15255637
The false assertion that COVID-19 was purposefully leaked from a Chinese lab spread online through U.S.-based far-right networks like QAnon and eventually bled into right-wing media more broadly.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Weaponized-How-rumors-about-COVID-19s-origins-led-to-a-narrative-arms-race.pdf
as discussed here: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-misinformation-china-russia-iran-bdd7f45a-4212-497c-8c77-c00b4c7c2379.html
The DFRLab report also explores how a separate, earlier stream of disinformation revolving around the false assertion that COVID-19 was purposefully leaked from a Chinese lab spread online through U.S.-based far-right networks like QAnon and eventually bled into right-wing media more broadly.
intrepidity
(7,275 posts)Who said "purposefully leaked"? You did, that's who.
hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)intrepidity
(7,275 posts)hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)intrepidity
(7,275 posts)Copy and paste where I WROTE what you claimed.
hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)that you have REPEATEDLY posted. By me and more than a dozen others who do not appreciate your turning DU into Q-anon CT.
hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)made it clear, no matter how much you want to try to "clean it up" --now that I and others have pointed out that this is pure Q-anon.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)It sticks. Permanently. You OWN it now.
hlthe2b
(102,149 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)intrepidity
(7,275 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)I can't help but note how you're still not explaining how it makes a difference otherwise. I guess nonsensical attempts at snark will do in a pinch.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/theory-that-coronavirus-escaped-from-a-lab-lacks-evidence-67229
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/30/fact-check-wuhan-lab-vaccine-research-affiliates-not-linked/4086363001/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/16/li-meng-yan/tucker-carlson-guest-airs-debunked-conspiracy-theo/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/02/24/pers-f24.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-experts-visit-wuhan-lab-at-center-of-virus-conspiracy-theory/ar-BB1dkPsS
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080868/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-conspiracy-theory-will-not-go-away
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-china-lab-mortality-virology-wuhan-virus-not-bioweapon/
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Undark.com?
QANonsense!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Please alert on it.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)1. it was deliberately leaked from the Wuhan lab either 1a. officially, or 1b. by a disaffected employee,
2. it inadvertently escaped from the Wuhan lab,
3. it was deliberately released by another organization near the Wuhan lab, or
4. it jumped from a host species in or near Wuhan, either from 4a. bats or 4b an intermediate host.
1a seems unlikely, since you would logically release it distant from your lab to obfuscate it's origin.
1b. is a possibility, but you'd think that China maintains good surveillance of personnel.
2 is the most likely of the first two scenarios.
3 seems equally probable with 2, given that travel to/from Wuhan was easy and frequent and that there were the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan in October, which seems like a splendid opportunity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games
4 is far and away the most likely, and it is really the only possibility worth investigating, because, no matter the path taken to get to humans, the virus did start in bats.
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)Which makes me wonder why you bolded them?