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We really don't know if patient zero for SARS-CoV-2 was from Wuhan, or somewhere else, and probably never will. That leaves the Wuhan Lab theory, moot.
The earliest identified case, December 1, 2019, had no known connection to the Wuhan Wet Market.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext
Modeling, by University of California San Diego School of Medicine suggests SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in Wuhan province, no later than mid October, 2019.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-sars-cov-circulated-undetected-months-covid-.html
And smack in the middle of October 2019, were the Wuhan World Military Games. The Games Village opened on October 11.
2019 Military World Games athletes' village officially opens
... the village will provide 1,958 suites for roughly 10,000 athletes, coaches and officials from more than 100 countries during the Games, which will run from 18th to 27th of October in central China's Wuhan city.
The village consists of four sections - a residence area, a public area, a logistics area and an operational one. A wide range of service facilities, such as medical centers, fitness clubs, banks, convenience stores, and souvenir shops, can be found in the village.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-10/11/c_138464322.htm
Athletes and officials flew in from all over China and the rest of the world. And that is a wild card.
For example, one study suggests that the Sars-Cov-2 was circulating in Italy as early as September 2019.
Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33176598/
Italy won 30 medals in Wuhan
http://www.difesa.it/EN/Primo_Piano/Pagine/military_world_games_thirty_medals_for_italy-.aspx
There is no doubt SARS-Cov-2 was circulating in Wuhan in December 2019. Given the incubation period, it emerged earlier that that. Where from, cannot be known for certain.
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(9,337 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)If there is one country that has suffered the most due to COVID-19 beyond China, it has to be the European country of Italy. But what is the connection between Italy and the novel coronavirus considering the deadly virus is reported to have originated from China? The answer is fashionably simple. The northern part of Italy has been a traditionally prosperous region due to the flourishing fashion and garment industry. Most of the big global brands like Gucci and Prada have their base in this region. With China offering one of the cheapest manufacturing options in the world, it came as little surprise that most of these fashion brands were working with China. A large number of these Italian fashion and garment houses had outsourced their manufacturing to Chinese labour, specifically in Wuhan. Italy also has direct flights from Wuhan and reports suggest over 100,000 Chinese citizens were working in Italian factories. Chinese made a slow and steady move into Italy and many Italian fashion firms are now owned by them as well. As per a news report, there are more than 300,000 Chinese and over 90% of them work in the Italian garment industry.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/covid-19-did-you-know-about-italys-china-connection/videoshow/74694266.cms
Much appreciated.
soryang
(3,299 posts)I was unaware of the fashion industry connection. Makes sense.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/814882/number-of-chinese-tourist-arrivals-in-italy-by-region/
I don't think anyone who has visited northern Italy in last four or five years is surprised by this.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I heard about the Military Games. And knowing trump and how evil he is I actually had this thought.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you. I dreamed it one night. Yeah, it's nuts.
SARS COV-2 came from a US lab. trump sent intentionally infected US soldiers to the World Athlete games to attack China never thinking that it would come back HERE.
He sent top secret athletes who were unknowingly infected knowing it would spread and devastate Chinas' economy,
Yeah, like I said it is nuts.
But it's as good a crazy theory as anyone else's.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The 2018-19 Asian Swine Fever epidemic destroyed half the pigs in China.
They might think someone's out to get them.
womanofthehills
(8,784 posts)Our Fort Detrick, Md lab was closed for 3 months in 2019 because of safety violations. Gain- of- function Sars research was being done at this lab. China has promoted all over Chinese Twitter that our soldiers brought it over to China from Fort Dietrick. One of the violations at this lab was that a maintenance person propped open a door of a room he should not have entered endangering the lives of those in the building - plus about 5 other violations.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)I love flying, cruises, just about any travel. I am always willing to be your travel buddy!
Lets go places!
Love,
SARS-CoV-2
speak easy
(9,337 posts)My dream cruise!
Lets hug!
speak easy
(9,337 posts)just to luv you.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Lets recombinate.
speak easy
(9,337 posts)Yeah. Let's do it !
Pump up the volume!
Beach party in FL.
speak easy
(9,337 posts)who knows what you're doing. Been around, as hungry as ever, famous even.
Made a big splash last year, now back for more.
I'll never forget you, the leader of the pack.
😈
Johnny2X2X
(19,193 posts)It's definitely worth looking into where and how it may have started.
For the record, our intelligence agencies and the WHO already investigated whether it could have come from a lab and both concluded there is zero evidence suggesting that.