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http://www.thenation.com/article/165440/ron-pauls-strange-bedfellowsRon Paul's Strange Bedfellows
Katha Pollitt January 4, 2012 This article appeared in the January 23, 2012 edition of The Nation.
What is it with progressive mancrushes on right-wing Republicans? For years, until he actually got nominated, John McCain was the recipient of lefty smooches equaled only by those bestowed upon Barack Obama before he had to start governing. You might disagree with what McCain stood for, went the argument, but he had integrity, and charisma, and some shiny mavericky positionson campaign finance reform and gun control and well, those two anyway.
Now Ron Paul is getting the love. At Truthdig, Robert Scheer calls him a profound and principled contributor to a much-needed national debate on the limits of federal power. In The Nation, John Nichols praises his pure conservatism, values and principle. Salons Glenn Greenwald is so outraged that progressives havent abandoned the warmongering, drone-sending, indefinite-detention-supporting Obama for Paul that he accuses them of supporting the murder of Muslim children. Theres a Paul fan base in the Occupy movement and at Counterpunch, where Alexander Cockburn is a longtime admirer. Paul is a regular guest of Jon Stewart, who has yet to ask him a tough question. And yes, these are all white men; if there are leftish white women and people of color who admire Paul, theyre keeping pretty quiet.
Ron Paul has an advantage over most of his fellow Republicans in having an actual worldview, instead of merely a set of interestshe opposes almost every power the federal government has and almost everything it does. Given Washingtons enormous reach, it stands to reason that progressives would find targets to like in Pauls wholesale assault. I, too, would love to see the end of the war on drugs and our other wars. I, too, am shocked by the curtailment of civil liberties in pursuit of the war on terror, most recently the provision in the NDAA permitting the indefinite detention, without charge, of US citizens suspected of involvement in terrorism. But these are a handful of cherries on a blighted tree. In a Ron Paul America, there would be no environmental protection, no Social Security, no Medicaid or Medicare, no help for the poor, no public education, no civil rights laws, no anti-discrimination law, no Americans With Disabilities Act, no laws ensuring the safety of food or drugs or consumer products, no workers rights. How far does Paul take his war against Washington? He wants to abolish the Federal Aviation Authority and its pesky air traffic controllers. He has one magic answer to every problemincluding how to land an airplane safely: let the market handle it.
Its a little strange to see people who inveigh against Obamas healthcare compromises wave away, as a detail, Pauls opposition to any government involvement in healthcare. In Ron Pauls America, if you werent prudent enough or wealthy enough to buy private insuranceand the exact policy that covers whats ailing you nowyou find a charity or die. And if civil liberties are so important, how can Pauls progressive fans overlook his opposition to abortion and his signing of the personhood pledge, which could ban many birth control methods? Last time I checked, women were half the population (the less important half, apparently). Technically, Paul would overturn Roe and let states make their own laws regulating womens bodies, up to and including prosecuting abortion as murder. Add in his opposition to basic civil rights lawhe maintains his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act and opposes restrictions on the freedom of business owners to refuse service to blacksand his hostility to the federal government starts looking more and more like old-fashioned Southern-style states rights. No wonder they love him over at Stormfront, a white-supremacist website with neo-Nazi tendencies. In a multiple-choice poll of possible effects of a Paul presidency, the most popular answer by far was Paul will implement reforms that increase liberty which will indirectly benefit White Nationalists. And lets not forget his other unsavory fan base, Christian extremists who want to execute gays, adulterers and insubordinate children. Pauls many connections with the Reconstructionist movement, going back decades, are laid out on AlterNet by Adele Stan, who sees him as a faux libertarian whose real agenda is not individualism but to prevent the federal government from restraining the darker impulses at work at the state and local levels.
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And by the way it's not new; I've seen sympathetic remarks about Ron Paul on DU from time to time since at least 2007.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)If you want anti-war liberals to support you, then be an anti-war liberal.
In the absence of any anti-war liberals to vote for, an anti-war libertarian seems a tempting alternative.
G_j
(40,372 posts)exactly, however, I am a life long anti-war activist and I can't support him for the cruelty and inhumanity of many of his views.
I have always been a Kucinich supporter, whom mainstream Dems continually label as "unelectable"
barbtries
(28,818 posts)just wanted you to know you are not alone.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)But my excuse-o-matic need to be fed some more quarters to make me dance vigorously to the tune the DNC has chosen.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)he doesn't have to be perfect, just barely better than brand X.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)For one thing, his campaign manager went on TV and very explicitly said that Ron Paul is NOT anti-war.
He voted for the AUMF resolution. He supported attacking Iran before he was against it. He's not "anti-war" in any way.
He's also not a libertarian, since he's never met a pro-life or anti-gay bill he didn't like, including supporting DOMA.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/pollitts-perplexity-about-pundits-on-ron-paul/
Does that mean that I am a fan of Ron Paul? No. Do I admire the fact that hes articulating an anti-war platform? Yes, but very cautiously and very sadly, given his other questionable positions. As Corey Robin points out, folks who are anti-war have only Paul to look to. And in part, we have only Paul to look to, because of white leftish women like Katha Pollitt, who says,
I, too, would love to see the end of the war on drugs and our other wars. I, too, am shocked by the curtailment of civil liberties in pursuit of the war on terror, most recently the provision in the NDAA permitting the indefinite detention, without charge, of US citizens suspected of involvement in terrorism. But these are a handful of cherries on a blighted tree.
Really? Half a million Iraqi civilians dead? Dozens of Pakistani children dead because of drones (or more. We are not allowed to know)? The reproductive systems of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women decimated by decades of US-led chemical warfare ? The curtailment of civil liberties of legal residents (and not merely citizens) in the US? The indefinite detention of tens of thousands of migrants, documented or otherwise? Those migrants include Latinos, South Asians, Arabs, Middle Easterners, Muslims from other parts of the worlddetained not just for migrating without papers, but for merely being suspected of terrorism and held without charges, without lawyers, without family knowing, without judicial reviewwithout a way out. These are what an anti-war position would resist. Seriously? Pollitt believes these are cherries on a blighted tree?
Apparently the last time Pollitt checked, women were half the population in the United States. Last time I checked, women were half the population in the parts of the world that the US is decimating. Im going out on a limb, but Im guessing that they care about their reproductive systems being trashed. They probably also care about their children dying. Im wondering what Pollitt thinks about the ripping apart of migrant parents from their childrenby deporting at least 46,000 of them under the Obama Administration? My understanding is that these children all had parents. And apparently those parents cared about them.
She also gives her hell for mischaracterizing Greenwald's position in the first paragraph but, as Greenwald said himself, "But addressing Pollitts distortion is the least important and interesting point in Professor Sheths essay, which I really encourage everyone to read."
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thank you for the heads-up, Luminous Animal.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
randome
(34,845 posts)And some have lost faith in Obama and the Democrats. I am an Obama supporter but people yearn for a more dynamic leader. Therefore, they turn to alternatives to the status quo.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)could love.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)[div="excerpt]But like Ross Perot in 1991 (whose third-party candidacy created the space to challenge NAFTA) and Ralph Nader in 2000 (who raised questions about corporate politics and party complicity), the presence of Paul is raising serious questions about some elephants in the room. How do we expect solidarity among folks of color when the cost-benefit analysis is played out by pitting the issues that concern white folks and some US folks of color against issues affecting international populations or other US folks of color, as Pollit does in her column?
Heres another question: why must I make this claim as a woman of color? As a South Asian woman? As a migrant? Why cant I make this claim as a US citizen, pure and simple? Why cant I make this claim simply as a progressive? Somehow that pisses me off. The collective indifference of thousands of progressives, even in OWS, to the minute attention paid to those foreign policies that dont take an enormous leap of imagination to see the deaths, the bodily and psychic harm, the mutations that result from chemical warfare, that have affected hundreds of thousands of PEOPLE of COLOR. Yes. And I am a People of color making this point. For better or worse, Ron Paul is noticing it. I dont care what his motivations are (again, I AM NOT SUPPORTING HIS CANDIDACY. Glenn: maybe you should have put your alerts in all-caps, like I did). He is raising the questions.
http://translationexercises.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/pollitts-perplexity-about-pundits-on-ron-paul/