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TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:07 PM Apr 2021

Who are the Collectivists that Marxist-Leninist ideology describes in modern American politics?

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Read the following summary and see who that now applies to:



Collectivism is a value that is characterized by emphasis on cohesiveness among individuals and prioritization of the group over the self. Individuals or groups that subscribe to a collectivist worldview tend to find common values and goals as particularly salient and demonstrate greater orientation toward in-group than toward out-group.The term "in-group" is thought to be more diffusely defined for collectivist individuals to include societal units ranging from the nuclear family to a religious or racial/ethnic group.

Collectivism was an important part of Marxist–Leninist ideology in the Soviet Union, where it played a key part in forming the New Soviet man, willingly sacrificing his or her life for the good of the collective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivism



Perhaps we are seeing a form of the "New American man" forming with the present-day conservatives. We're seeing a lot of Republicans falling to the alter of Trump and QAnon, which stress adherence to a collective set of beliefs and viewpoints.

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. Hmmm... So "New American Man" is just another way to identify the same old fascists
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:43 PM
Apr 2021

that we already know how to deal with? asking for a friend

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
4. Tribalism is ethnic. Using it shields Conservative narratives of associating Collectivism with Dems.
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 03:05 PM
Apr 2021

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Collectivism can be ethnic or national, but is generally it's relating to social constructs.
This can be community, religion, political views, etc.

For years the Reps have been using Collectivism in a manner to cast Dems as Marxist Communists.
In reality, Republicans are the ones who deploy most of Marx's ideologies and project them to Dems.

It's time to take back that narrative, and while tribalism denotes strong associations with a tribe or nation, all other social bonds relate to the in-group(us) or the out-group(the others).

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Martin68

(22,825 posts)
3. The definition of "collectivist" above seems to emphasize smaller groups such as families or
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:54 PM
Apr 2021

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religious sects. I believe Marxist-Leninist use of the term applied to an entire nation.

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