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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:31 AM Apr 2021

NC Bill Orders Any School Employee to 'Immediately' Notify Parents if a Child 'Exhibits Gender...

NC Bill Orders Any School Employee to ‘Immediately’ Notify Parents if a Child ‘Exhibits Gender Nonconformity’

By David Badash

A North Carolina bill attacking the state’s lesbian, gay, bisexual, and especially transgender and queer or questioning youth and young adults violates their right to privacy and places tremendous power in the hands of any person – regardless of training or expertise – who is employed by, contracted by, or is even a volunteer to any school district, court, or child placement agency.

Senate Bill 514 makes it illegal for any teacher, school administrator, contractor, and even volunteers, among other “government agents,” to not “immediately” inform, in writing, the parents or legal guardians of any child or young adult – up to the age of 21 – if that “minor under its care or supervision has exhibited symptoms of gender dysphoria, gender nonconformity, or otherwise demonstrates a desire to be treated in a manner incongruent with the minor’s sex.”

“The notice shall describe all of the relevant circumstances with reasonable specificity,” the legislation adds.

In other words, the bill’s author, Republican state Senator Ralph Hise (photo), a Trump acolyte, is deputizing every government “agent, employee, volunteer, or contractor of a public child services agency, private child placing agency, court, or school district” to not only determine what constitutes symptoms of gender dysphoria (a medical diagnosis) or gender nonconformity, an entirely subjective belief.



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NC Bill Orders Any School Employee to 'Immediately' Notify Parents if a Child 'Exhibits Gender... (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
Do these republicans have children? Turbineguy Apr 2021 #1
Yes, but some of the non-conformists get disowned or abused. GoCubsGo Apr 2021 #13
"Homophobes in Robes" by Romanovsky and Phillips dickthegrouch Apr 2021 #32
What about species nonconformity? EYESORE 9001 Apr 2021 #2
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2021 #31
I would have been screwed growing uo blueinredohio Apr 2021 #3
How Nazi of them rockfordfile Apr 2021 #4
Here comes the Straight Patrol. Haggard Celine Apr 2021 #5
As a old straight white guy I have almost always found that the more somebody complains about ... Botany Apr 2021 #9
They're often leading some sort of double life, Haggard Celine Apr 2021 #12
This from those obsessed with "witch hunts" FalloutShelter Apr 2021 #6
The Republican obsession with all things sexual continues. Diamond_Dog Apr 2021 #7
Another stupid, homophobic bill like the bathroom bill by the vicious NC Republicans. GoodRaisin Apr 2021 #8
That guys hiding something gay texan Apr 2021 #10
Glad I'm not the only one who sees that... GoCubsGo Apr 2021 #15
Like parents would not already know??? Is there any sex- or sexual-related natural function the GOP joetheman Apr 2021 #11
Some may not, sarisataka Apr 2021 #21
I am a media coordinator in NC- many of us are members of Thtwudbeme Apr 2021 #14
Her district covers 3 media markets, making her very hard and super expensive to compete against ms liberty Apr 2021 #18
We are in her district also Thtwudbeme Apr 2021 #26
Virginia Foxx? Pretty old to be a porn star, isn't she/ TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #23
Who do I call about the penis with a goatee pretending to be a person in the OP photo? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #16
I'm going to report that woman on The Great Seal of NC. Hugin Apr 2021 #17
The first day this was in effect sarisataka Apr 2021 #19
IF evil pubs pass it, NC's DEMOCRATIC governor will almost certainly veto. Hortensis Apr 2021 #20
But when you are in church, Delmette2.0 Apr 2021 #22
I doubt the child has been born that didn't exhibit some gender nonconformity. Midnight Writer Apr 2021 #24
Motherfucking assholes vercetti2021 Apr 2021 #25
A bill like this is not only disgusting but dangerous as hell peggysue2 Apr 2021 #27
Have every single child cross dress for the next week! dickthegrouch Apr 2021 #28
So they can be "cured"? lpbk2713 Apr 2021 #29
It is part of Trans erasure IMHO Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #30
My nickname in middle and high school was "queerbait." hunter Apr 2021 #33
"Paging Mr. Orwell....!" NM Grins Apr 2021 #34
And what if doing so would violate your conscience? Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #35
Almost all of the women in my family went through a non-conforming phase. littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #36

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
13. Yes, but some of the non-conformists get disowned or abused.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:01 AM
Apr 2021

And, some of them turn into Larry Craigs, Ken Mehlmans, Jim Kolbes, Michael Huffingtons, Mark Foleys, and Aaron Shocks, who cower in the closet, voting against their own interests--until they're outed. There's going to be a lot more of those if this Hise creep gets his way. Particularly the disowned/abused ones, and I can't help but think that's actually this asshole's goal, especially given what we know about the Gym Jordans, Matt Gaetzes and the rest of their ilk.

EYESORE 9001

(25,932 posts)
2. What about species nonconformity?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:34 AM
Apr 2021

Looks like this specimen is transmogrifying into some sort of hog/billy goat monstrosity.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
5. Here comes the Straight Patrol.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:40 AM
Apr 2021

If you're not butch or feminine enough, you're going to get it! These fuckers need to get a life and try to do some real work for a change. Maybe stop trying to ruin people's lives and accomplish something meaningful.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
9. As a old straight white guy I have almost always found that the more somebody complains about ...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:49 AM
Apr 2021

... "the gays," or anybody or group of people somewhere on the LGBTQ spectrum the more I wonder
what they are trying to hide or repress about themselves.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
12. They're often leading some sort of double life,
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:57 AM
Apr 2021

or they have something in their past they want to conceal, as if someone is going around picking out gay guys and they might pick him. There's something there.

FalloutShelter

(11,860 posts)
6. This from those obsessed with "witch hunts"
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

They are as stupid ad they are despicable.
WHO knew Monty Python made documentaries.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
8. Another stupid, homophobic bill like the bathroom bill by the vicious NC Republicans.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:48 AM
Apr 2021

First off, if a child exhibits “gender nonconformity” wouldn’t the parents be the first to notice it? So why does the teacher have to notify parents about what they probably have known for some time? Of course, because this bullshit is all about getting it on the table to posture to discriminate against them and violate their rights.

I fucking hate this party of “small government”. Half a million people in NC don’t have health insurance and this is what Republicans choose to focus on. NC is one of the most backward states in all of the U.S.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
11. Like parents would not already know??? Is there any sex- or sexual-related natural function the GOP
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:56 AM
Apr 2021

won't try to regulate?

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
14. I am a media coordinator in NC- many of us are members of
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:02 AM
Apr 2021

two professional groups. One, a group of media coordinators (librarians), and the other a teacher's "union." In other words, we all keep in touch with folks from all over the state.

We are all aware of this silly assed bill, and the implications.

We truly have some homegrown whacks down here in NC- the one I can't figure out is Virginia Foxx. Bizarre as hell that she gets people up in the mountains to vote for her.

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
18. Her district covers 3 media markets, making her very hard and super expensive to compete against
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

And it covers several counties. I'm in her district unfortunately, in a small, rural county that just loves her to death. People have run against her but it's never really been competitive. She came into office after our former representative Cass Ballenger (R) retired.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
26. We are in her district also
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 03:18 PM
Apr 2021

one of the larger counties- but, we own a condo up in the mountains right outside Boone.

We should have a NC DU meetup sometime!

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
17. I'm going to report that woman on The Great Seal of NC.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

Displayed behind him. Very gender incongruous depiction of femininity.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. IF evil pubs pass it, NC's DEMOCRATIC governor will almost certainly veto.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:17 AM
Apr 2021

The similar veto by AR's Republican governor was subsequently overridden by AR's Republican controlled legislature, so we'd see. NC's Democratic governor, though, was elected partially in voter reaction to NC's notorious trans-persecution bathroom bill.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
22. But when you are in church,
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:33 AM
Apr 2021

We are all created in His image.

So is God LGBTQ, or disabled from a dominate gene, or disabled from an accident or war injury that He could have shielded you from? Oh wait, your parents did something that displeased Him so you are punished.

Fuck these people who cannot accept people who are different in any way. They need to grow up emotionally, not just in years.


vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
25. Motherfucking assholes
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 02:55 PM
Apr 2021

I displayed a ton of feminine traits as a child. But I forced myself to act differently because I was always scared of my father. I hate these evil evil evil sacks of shit are putting these poor kids who are trying to learn who they are in physical and emotional danger because their obsession with who has a penis or vagina.

Fuck all of them. You'll never stop trans people from being themselves. Kiss our collective asses

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
27. A bill like this is not only disgusting but dangerous as hell
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 03:23 PM
Apr 2021

You start singling out students for gender nonconformity, you open the door for all kinds of mistakes, unnecessary emotional trauma in a vulnerable population, not to mention green light the same negative attitudes for other groups deemed less than. This is an expansion of the current thinking within far right groups that only 'the right people' should be able to vote or get healthcare or . . . taken to its extreme even live.

The Nazis didn't suddenly come into power. They came into power through a series of steps, a series of normalizations and repetitive fear-mongering. Ugly words became not so shocking. Ridiculous genetic theories became half-way understandable, particularly if you belonged to the right-people club.

These haters need to be shut down or we will rue the day we turned a blind eye.

Dangerous, dangerous times!

dickthegrouch

(3,173 posts)
28. Have every single child cross dress for the next week!
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:51 PM
Apr 2021

Show them how stupid this is. It'll cost the state a fortune to police it. For NOTHING.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
30. It is part of Trans erasure IMHO
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:54 PM
Apr 2021

They want to make sure that Trans children never dare bother to show themselves for fear of reprisals by their parents. Not all of them of course- more and more of them are supportive of their children but certainly not all and some can become extremely harmful and abusive if they find out their children are LGBTQ+

hunter

(38,311 posts)
33. My nickname in middle and high school was "queerbait."
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 12:34 AM
Apr 2021

I'd have been reported.

I quit high school.

Ralph Hise sets off my creep-o-meter.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
35. And what if doing so would violate your conscience?
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 01:26 AM
Apr 2021

Anyway, I don't see how that could be upheld as legal.

An extremely poorly defined "diagnosis" being performed by people with absolutely no training or expertise.

I don't see how there wouldn't end up being massive lawsuits brought by families.

This seems like posturing being taken too far.

littlemissmartypants

(22,647 posts)
36. Almost all of the women in my family went through a non-conforming phase.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 02:38 AM
Apr 2021

Hated and rejected were the poofy girlie dresses. Angry Bird and Mario Brothers tee shirts and shorts were worn by the youngest generation with enthusiasm and were definitely better for tree climbing attire.

Mom and her girl cousins wore overalls and pigtails and enjoyed horseback riding, no reins, just manes and definitely no saddles. They were for sissies. The name for girls without gumption. Dresses were hated but required for Sunday School.

We would be in "a world of hurt" as the saying goes, if we had to follow this horrendous law.

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