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jeff tiedrich lists the times republicans have reached out to dems (Original Post) orleans Apr 2021 OP
Kick dalton99a Apr 2021 #1
"WE" are ALWAYS the ones that are expected to "reach out" Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #2
And when we do reach out, they slap our hands. Arkansas Granny Apr 2021 #8
As I've said before on here: lastlib Apr 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #33
Precisely, as it's the standard corporate media deliberate blame shifting narrative. benfranklin1776 Apr 2021 #10
The people reached out, emphatically, for Dems last November Mr. Ected Apr 2021 #3
Exactly. That's the only bipartisanship that matters. benfranklin1776 Apr 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #34
Tea party reQublicans cemented the unmovable "My way or the highway" type governing. KS Toronado Apr 2021 #4
Manchin can't be that dumb. not fooled Apr 2021 #5
Yup his reasoning makes no sense. mucifer Apr 2021 #6
Don't overestimate Manchin's intellect. He's unworthy of it. (nt) Paladin Apr 2021 #19
That many? Lol Takket Apr 2021 #7
LMAO it doesn't matter. aocommunalpunch Apr 2021 #9
Biden/Schumer should announce that Manchin and Sinema are in charge of bipartisan outreach Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #11
+1 Johonny Apr 2021 #12
Great ideas. . . . h2ebits Apr 2021 #15
Send a copy to Biden too! Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #24
Brilliant! mjvpi Apr 2021 #16
I like that idea! RainCaster Apr 2021 #17
I like this! Prince99 Apr 2021 #18
absolutely right Snoopy 7 Apr 2021 #36
I say we chuck all that. Don't even bother. calimary Apr 2021 #14
Spot on. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #20
exactly n/t orleans Apr 2021 #21
In the interest of accuracy... Thunderbeast Apr 2021 #22
There Stands Manchin like a Stonewall nt Tommymac Apr 2021 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2021 #25
This is to be expected when dealing with a person whose career depends on the votes of miners.s. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #26
The Stupid Party needs to be excluded. Period. czarjak Apr 2021 #27
Every time. No more. Fuck the mendacious Lucy Manchin and his football. ancianita Apr 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #35
Just like ReThugLiCons had a meeting the night Obama was elected bearssoapbox Apr 2021 #29
Didnt biden just appt maanchin's wife to high level post? What did DEMS get--NADA! RestoreAmerica2020 Apr 2021 #31
Amen to that! Nt raccoon Apr 2021 #32

Arkansas Granny

(31,530 posts)
8. And when we do reach out, they slap our hands.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:37 AM
Apr 2021

The Republican definition of bipartisanship is to do everything their way.

lastlib

(23,287 posts)
30. As I've said before on here:
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:47 PM
Apr 2021

Never extend your hand to a rabid dog unless you are prepared to club it into submission. You can substitute "republikan" for "rabid dog," and the same principle applies.

Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #8)

benfranklin1776

(6,449 posts)
10. Precisely, as it's the standard corporate media deliberate blame shifting narrative.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:45 AM
Apr 2021

We need to push back and demand every talking head that parrots this Rethuglican narrative ask this question instead: why is this quest for this mythical unicorn of bipartisanship solely our responsibility? Why is it the “proud boy party of No” that gets to completely abdicate its responsibility to help govern in a democracy by utterly refusing to do the tiniest act of good faith cooperation for the good of the people, when even their own voters support Democratic proposals? Bipartisanship ain’t total surrender to the other side which is effectively the result they seek.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. The people reached out, emphatically, for Dems last November
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:25 AM
Apr 2021

The nexus between Democrats and American voters is the only connection we need to concern ourselves with.

benfranklin1776

(6,449 posts)
13. Exactly. That's the only bipartisanship that matters.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:48 AM
Apr 2021

Not the illusory corporate media pimped phantom that serves only the interests that own today’s Rethuglican Party.

Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #3)

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
5. Manchin can't be that dumb.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:31 AM
Apr 2021

Hence, he has another reason or reasons for being recalcitrant. And thinks it's better for him not to be honest about what his real agenda is.

aocommunalpunch

(4,244 posts)
9. LMAO it doesn't matter.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:43 AM
Apr 2021

They won't vote for it in the end, anyway. I'm starting to understand how villains learn to laugh maniacally. It has a certain charm when life starts to loosen its grip.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)
11. Biden/Schumer should announce that Manchin and Sinema are in charge of bipartisan outreach
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:45 AM
Apr 2021

And give them deadlines to meet to present a bipartisan bill with 10 confirmed Republican votes:

End of May for infrastructure, or we go with Biden’s bill/Dem majority bill via reconciliation

End of July for voting rights, or we move to abolish filibuster and pass SB1 as written.

If Manchin and Sinema are able to craft a bill with bipartisan support, fine, that’s where negotiations begin.

If they can’t, then they will be expected to support reconciliation and ending the filibuster, or they will be stripped of all committee assignments, and will receive no DNC funds for their campaigns in 2024.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
12. +1
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:47 AM
Apr 2021

Joe needs to put up or shut up.

He's brought nothing to the table but complaints. I'm tired of him.

Snoopy 7

(528 posts)
36. absolutely right
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:28 AM
Apr 2021

After all all the time Cocain Mitch was in charge no bill came up unless it was passed with a republican majority. There were NO Democratic bill allowed to see the light of day, they were scrapped or filibustered to death. It didn't matter to the republicans that the bills were to assist the American people, they didn't care about anyone but themselves. For years the republicans have kept the American peoples finances in their hands and done nothing for YOU. Just like these bills they are for the people and the republicans don't care. Joseph Manchin III has voted more, 54% of his votes, with the republican party than with his own party so don't let his BS fool you he is a member of the Democratic Party by name only. And, the Democratic Party has to quit fooling itself and stop saying that they can't run a real member of the Democratic Party in West Virginia because they will lose. If that were true then why is Manchin winning why aren't they voting in a member of the republican party?

calimary

(81,467 posts)
14. I say we chuck all that. Don't even bother.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:59 AM
Apr 2021

DEMS! You’re there to serve the issues, problems, and needs of the American people. It does no good to keep reaching out to a fucking BRICK WALL. The brick wall is hard, rough, and has NO feelings, and all you’re ever gonna get is scratched-up, scuffed-up hands.

Thunderbeast

(3,419 posts)
22. In the interest of accuracy...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 01:00 PM
Apr 2021

In 2008, President W. needed Dem support to pump billions into the bank rescue. Congress (as well as candidate Obama) could have let the GOP "own" the banking meltdown.

Understanding that the rescue was the best of many horrible options, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi whipped enough Democrats to pass the bill in spite of huge opposition from both parties.

They asked for help (arguably) for the good of the country. The difference is that the Democrats voted country over party.

Response to orleans (Original post)

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
26. This is to be expected when dealing with a person whose career depends on the votes of miners.s.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 01:52 PM
Apr 2021

They spend a third of their life in the dark and call it freedom.

Response to ancianita (Reply #28)

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
29. Just like ReThugLiCons had a meeting the night Obama was elected
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:42 PM
Apr 2021

They decided to be against everything he wanted to do.

No matter what President Obama said or did to try and work with them by reaching across the aisle.....
All he ever got back was a bloody stump.
We all know what mcturtles plan was, he announced it right out in public for the world to hear.
The Dems need to treat them the way they treated us and when they start crying, bring out the videos, the news paper columns and faux news interviews that show how against America and Americans they were and have been.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
31. Didnt biden just appt maanchin's wife to high level post? What did DEMS get--NADA!
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:49 PM
Apr 2021
President Joe Biden on Friday nominated Gayle Conelly Manchin, the wife of Senator Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) to serve as co-chair of the Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC). [Salary $160K]


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