Average Minnesota time in Prison for Murder 2... 12.5 years.

[WarGamer]

Prosecutors to seek enhancements for a longer sentence.

Prosecutors will make their argument in front of the Judge, not a jury.

No criminal record, could be less than 10 years.

For those confused about sentence:

If Chauvin is convicted on any of the charges, he faces maximum sentences of up to 10 years or up to 40 years in prison. If he is convicted on multiple counts, he will not serve consecutive sentences on them. Instead, he will be sentenced on the most serious of the counts, Moran said.

https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2021/04/explaining-the-possible-outcomes-of-jury-deliberations-in-the-derek-chauvin-trial/#:~:text=Possible%20penalties,of%20the%20counts%2C%20Moran%20said.

[Sanity Claws]

1. I'd like longer but even only 10 years means his life is destroyed

He will never have a happy day again in his life.

[WarGamer]

4. Disagree.

He'll be out in his late 50's with a pension. He can go fishing all day for 25 years.

25+ to make it fair

[CrackityJones75]

6. No.

He will have to serve time for all three counts. That is IF he makes it out. Not that I agree with violence in prison but it does happen (although not to the extent the public likes to fantasize about)

[WarGamer]

12. No

Rachel Moran, associate professor of law at the University of St. Thomas School of Law:

https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2021/04/explaining-the-possible-outcomes-of-jury-deliberations-in-the-derek-chauvin-trial/#:~:text=Possible%20penalties,of%20the%20counts%2C%20Moran%20said.

If Chauvin is convicted on any of the charges, he faces maximum sentences of up to 10 years or up to 40 years in prison. If he is convicted on multiple counts, he will not serve consecutive sentences on them. Instead, he will be sentenced on the most serious of the counts, Moran said.

[CrackityJones75]

15. Yep you are correct.

I heard incorrectly. I heard consecutively instead of concurrent. You are correct.

Apologies.

[Sanity Claws]

11. Don't be sure that he will get a pension

I don't know the rules of his police dept but he may lose his pension because he committed a felony while in uniform.
When he gets out, he won't be able to find work. It's hard to get hired at that age. Combine that with his felony conviction and I don't see any employment for him.
As for fishing, he needs some money to do that. He will be poor and miserable.

[dflprincess]

22. Apparently he can still get his pension but

George Floyd's family could sue him and get at least some of it. (This per the NY Times)

[WarGamer]

23. Why wasn't the Goldman family able to get any of OJ's NFL pension?

[dflprincess]

26. I have no idea the "Times" article did not include that detail

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/13/us/chauvin-pension-conviction-floyd.html

Even if the former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is found guilty of murdering George Floyd, he will qualify to receive what could amount to around $50,000 a year in state pension payments.

But how much of that money he will see is less certain: Members of Mr. Floyd’s family, who are expected to file a wrongful-death lawsuit against Mr. Chauvin and the city, may be able to seize his pension distributions if they obtain a sizable judgment.

Some states force public employees who are convicted of serious crimes to forfeit their state pensions. But Minnesota does not, and the agency that distributes them said that could be changed only by legislative action.

Former employees qualify for benefits “if they meet length-of-service requirements, regardless of whether termination of employment was voluntary or involuntary,” the agency, the Minnesota Public Employees Retirement Association, said in a statement. “Under state law, being charged or convicted of a crime does not impact a member’s benefit.”

Maybe different states, different laws?

[Luciferous]

27. Seems to me that Minnesota should do something to change that law.

[dflprincess]

28. Yes it should

but even if it did, I doubt they could make it retroactive.

[WarGamer]

29. I guess no one at the NY Times can Google.

Minnesota is an outlier – it is the only state that protects pensions under the promissory estoppel theory: the protection of a promise even where no contract has been explicitly stated.

5 minutes Google and the answer is NO, a Court can't reach into a Pension Fund and take money.

[former9thward]

30. OJ lives in FL

In FL creditors can't get at retirement accounts or pensions.

[uponit7771]

10. FAUX News will hire him, they're already apologizing for him

[dflprincess]

2. There are the other 2 counts

and sentences could run consecutively.

[WarGamer]

5. According to what I've read, they won't

[CrackityJones75]

7. My lawyer wife says differently but I suppose she could be wrong.

Usually she is not.

[WarGamer]

9. Have her read this

If he is convicted on multiple counts, he will not serve consecutive sentences on them. Instead, he will be sentenced on the most serious of the counts, Moran said.

Rachel Moran, associate professor of law at the University of St. Thomas School of Law

https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2021/04/explaining-the-possible-outcomes-of-jury-deliberations-in-the-derek-chauvin-trial/#:~:text=Possible%20penalties,of%20the%20counts%2C%20Moran%20said.

[CrackityJones75]

14. Nope I was wrong I heard her incorrectly

You are right he will serve concurrent not consecutively.

I was wrong.

[WarGamer]

16. no problem, it's a pity

[CrackityJones75]

17. Yeah. Hope the judge leans toward the max rather than min.

[Ocelot II]

18. Not likely, since they are included offenses.

Consecutive sentencing is pretty rare, and it's based on some rather complicated calculations in the sentencing guidelines. https://mn.gov/msgc-stat/documents/Guidelines/2020/August2020MinnSentencingGuidelinesCommentary.pdf

[CrackityJones75]

3. These are all lesser inclusions. Concurrent sentences.

As I understand it he will be going to jail for a while.

[WarGamer]

8. The facts

https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2021/04/explaining-the-possible-outcomes-of-jury-deliberations-in-the-derek-chauvin-trial/#:~:text=Possible%20penalties,of%20the%20counts%2C%20Moran%20said.

If he is convicted on multiple counts, he will not serve consecutive sentences on them. Instead, he will be sentenced on the most serious of the counts, Moran said.

[CrackityJones75]

13. Sorry you are right!

Concurrent not consecutive.

[Hoyt]

19. +1. Will be interesting to see if Judge goes with sentencing guidelines or closer to 40 years.

I think it will be toward longer end.

[-misanthroptimist]

20. I would hope that the fact he did this under color of law makes for a longer sentence.

The maximum allowable seems reasonable.

[LanternWaste]

21. Few reasons to believe his ultimate time served will fall within 'average'

[bullwinkle428]

24. Great. So he'll get out in 5 years, and never have to buy another drink

in his life when he walks into any racist bar in America.

[WarGamer]

25. they could have tried for Murder 1...

Guess they didn't think they had a shot.

After seeing the fast jury, maybe they should have tried.