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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,304 posts)
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:18 PM May 2021

2 Oklahoma Boys Pulled From Class for 'Black Lives Matter' T-Shirts

Two brothers, 8 and 5, were removed from their Oklahoma elementary school classrooms this past week and made to wait out the school day in a front office for wearing T-shirts that read “Black Lives Matter,” according to the boys’ mother.

The superintendent of the Ardmore, Okla., school district where the brothers, Bentlee and Rodney Herbert, attend different schools had previously told their mother, Jordan Herbert, that politics would “not be allowed at school,” Ms. Herbert recalled on Friday.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma has called the incident a violation of the students’ First Amendment rights.

On April 30, Bentlee, who is in the third grade, went to class at Charles Evans Elementary in a Black Lives Matter shirt, which Ms. Herbert said he had picked out himself to wear.

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2 Oklahoma Boys Pulled From Class for 'Black Lives Matter' T-Shirts (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
Civil rights aren't political. roamer65 May 2021 #1
Yes, yes, yes! Delmette2.0 May 2021 #6
Of course they are political. DTomlinson May 2021 #22
I think people have this negative view of "politics". Dr. Strange May 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 May 2021 #2
Most schools have a dress code. blueinredohio May 2021 #3
The shirts Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #4
Dunno if 5 and 8 year olds have 1st Amendment rights, but BLM isn't really politics as much... TreasonousBastard May 2021 #5
All Americans have 1st amendment rights. roamer65 May 2021 #7
+1 luckone May 2021 #16
I wonder how white kids wearing Confederate flag, or ... 11 Bravo May 2021 #8
Are confederate shirts allowed? White power signs? iq45 blurbs? niyad May 2021 #9
Please don't do this maxrandb May 2021 #17
It would be an indication of how racist the school board is, but I understand your excellent point. niyad May 2021 #20
What about "white life's matter" or Blue? USALiberal May 2021 #21
I don't care if people wear those either maxrandb May 2021 #23
When I was in high school (Class of '74) there was a rule passed: "No shirts with lettering". rickyhall May 2021 #10
Where did you go to school? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #11
Smalltown, Arkansas rickyhall May 2021 #14
Funny Story, but when I was in the Navy maxrandb May 2021 #18
So much easier to have a dress code that says Phoenix61 May 2021 #12
A lot of schools throughout the Southland here in California have that restriction . . . Journeyman May 2021 #15
Why did they make the kids miss the whole day of classes? happybird May 2021 #13
The schools where I live do not allow any article Mr.Bill May 2021 #19
The Supreme court has spoken on this.... IowaGuy May 2021 #25

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
1. Civil rights aren't political.
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:20 PM
May 2021

They are basic human rights, regardless of political rhetoric.

The superintendent and school should be sued.

 

DTomlinson

(411 posts)
22. Of course they are political.
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:26 PM
May 2021

If they weren't there would be no political disagreement, no need for Congress to get involved.

What exactly is your definition of "political?"

Dr. Strange

(25,926 posts)
24. I think people have this negative view of "politics".
Sun May 9, 2021, 10:40 PM
May 2021

They seem to have this view that causes anything associated with politics to become tainted. But basic things like human rights are very much a part of politics. A large deal of politics is pushing for what we'd consider to be human rights.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Dunno if 5 and 8 year olds have 1st Amendment rights, but BLM isn't really politics as much...
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:23 PM
May 2021

as basic human decency.

Might as well blame "End human Suffering" t-shits,

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
8. I wonder how white kids wearing Confederate flag, or ...
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:44 PM
May 2021

Blue Lives Matter T-shirts would be received in Ardmore.

I'm guessing they wouldn't be kicked out of class.

maxrandb

(15,365 posts)
17. Please don't do this
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:05 PM
May 2021

BLM T-Shirts have NOTHING in common with Confederate Flag, or White Power T-Shirts.

These are not the same.

It's like saying someone wearing a Holocaust Remembrance Shirt shouldn't be allowed, because we don't allow Nazi Shirts.

The ONLY reason it's even remotely political is because the Retrumplican Party and Conservatives have become synonymous with RACISM.

That's their problem.

I know this is not your intent, but using that comparison equates BLM with White Supremacy.

One of those things is NOT like the other.

niyad

(113,630 posts)
20. It would be an indication of how racist the school board is, but I understand your excellent point.
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:13 PM
May 2021

maxrandb

(15,365 posts)
23. I don't care if people wear those either
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:28 PM
May 2021

Look, the Democratic Party and Progressives, Moderates and Liberals are NOT saying "white, blue, or conservative" lives "don't matter".

Retrumplicans seem to have a serious problem with someone saying, or opining that "black lives matter".

How is it political?

The shirts aren't saying "Democrats Lives Matter"

They aren't promoting one political party over another.

The shirts aren't like a MAGA Shirt which is a trademarked political slogan specific to one party.

How do we know the kids aren't from a conservative or Retrumplican family.

We are assuming that since they are not white supremacists they are making a political statement.

Again, that's a problem for the racist Retrumplican Party to figure out.

It's their problem that a statement like Black Lives Matter is seen as politically biased toward one party.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
14. Smalltown, Arkansas
Sun May 9, 2021, 03:02 PM
May 2021

Wasn't really strict. It was country, shirt & jeans, some skirts. No halter tops, short skirts or cutoffs. Fort Worth was worse. They didn't let girls wear pants till I was a sophomore and because skirts got so short. They never expected hot pants. I used to get "licks" for leaving my shirttail out.

maxrandb

(15,365 posts)
18. Funny Story, but when I was in the Navy
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:08 PM
May 2021

I was stopped by the Quarterdeck Watch. I was wearing an Ohio State Polo Shirt.

I had to explain that those were Buckeye leaves, not Marijuana.

Journeyman

(15,042 posts)
15. A lot of schools throughout the Southland here in California have that restriction . . .
Sun May 9, 2021, 04:13 PM
May 2021

it both cuts down on gang affiliations as well as those who flaunt labels for social status.

Some go further, and restrict displays of colors, but to my understanding that's not as prevalent as the labels and writing.

happybird

(4,645 posts)
13. Why did they make the kids miss the whole day of classes?
Sun May 9, 2021, 02:59 PM
May 2021

When I was in school (80’s-90’s) if a shirt was deemed unacceptable, for whatever reason, they just made you turn it inside out and carry on with your day.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
19. The schools where I live do not allow any article
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:10 PM
May 2021

of clothing that says anything at all on it, except the name of the school or their team name. If you wear a shirt that says hello on it, you can be sent home.

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
25. The Supreme court has spoken on this....
Mon May 10, 2021, 01:21 PM
May 2021

It seems to me the administrators of this school system should explain why they do not support the Constitution and the law of the land as defined by the Supreme Court.

[link:https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/facts-and-case-summary-tinker-v-des-moines|

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