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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sat May 15, 2021, 08:33 PM May 2021

Many GOP politicians cannot believe that the Party lost.

I understand that. They cheat so much, and at every level, so they cannot believe that all of that cheating and voter suppression and purging of voters did not result in a victory for Trump.

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Many GOP politicians cannot believe that the Party lost. (Original Post) guillaumeb May 2021 OP
Exactly!! Let's show them the same in the coming midterms! PortTack May 2021 #1
Which politicians are you thinking of? brooklynite May 2021 #2
Only those who identify as Republican. eom guillaumeb May 2021 #21
yes Skittles May 2021 #3
No political party responsible for the Covid deaths malaise May 2021 #4
Never underestimate the ability of uninformed voters.... guillaumeb May 2021 #22
2022 will be much worse... lame54 May 2021 #5
Dems did very well in the 2018 midterms Zambero May 2021 #6
Mid term with an R POTUS vs with a D POTUS Cosmocat May 2021 #15
I have no confidence in that at all lame54 May 2021 #18
I'm not giving up. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #20
Cheating alotus51 May 2021 #7
Moreover, they cheat so much they think that's the only way anyone wins. The idea the that people Gaugamela May 2021 #8
If there was ever a 2 year lead-in to the midterms to excite Democrats, BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #9
Occam's razor? Pepsidog May 2021 #10
Remember reading... Xolodno May 2021 #11
I respectfully disagree. The real answer is so much worse than that. Hamlette May 2021 #12
I don't agree with Kinzinger Cosmocat May 2021 #16
If I have to select an opinion to which I subscribe ... 11 Bravo May 2021 #25
Yeah, OK Cosmocat May 2021 #26
Excellent points. guillaumeb May 2021 #23
it is a tenet of several of their faiths rampartc May 2021 #13
I wonder if the rebukes of today are feeling like the Wig party of the 1850's before it desolved.nt mitch96 May 2021 #14
Perhaps if they developed actual "ideas..." Fyrefox May 2021 #17
For more than a generation, they've been convincing themselves they are the "majority"... Wounded Bear May 2021 #19
Yes, this framing is key. guillaumeb May 2021 #24

PortTack

(32,764 posts)
1. Exactly!! Let's show them the same in the coming midterms!
Sat May 15, 2021, 08:35 PM
May 2021

KEEP THE HOUSE BLUE IN ‘22!! We can do this..think GA!!!

Pass it on!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
6. Dems did very well in the 2018 midterms
Sat May 15, 2021, 10:36 PM
May 2021

For a change. Hopefully 2022 will be a repeat. I am confident that voter suppression efforts will backfire badly on Repukes.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
15. Mid term with an R POTUS vs with a D POTUS
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:51 AM
May 2021

Ws second mid term was a REALLY big win for the Ds, leading up BHO's election two years later.

The problem is that in my life Ds have ALWAYS left D POTUS hanging in their mid terms.

That is why people are just assuming 2020 is going to be a big R day.

alotus51

(33 posts)
7. Cheating
Sat May 15, 2021, 10:58 PM
May 2021

There's an old saying in the world of motor racing. You must be cheating, because I'm cheating and you beat me.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
8. Moreover, they cheat so much they think that's the only way anyone wins. The idea the that people
Sat May 15, 2021, 10:58 PM
May 2021

play by the rules and dedicate their lives to the public good is simply outside their epistemological purview.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
9. If there was ever a 2 year lead-in to the midterms to excite Democrats,
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:12 PM
May 2021

how can it not be this one? If voters can't ride a President's coattails into the voting booth the way this President has stormed out of the gate...

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
11. Remember reading...
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:21 PM
May 2021

...that some GOP think the recent legislation to suppress voters might backfire. And I hope it does.

They are concerned that unenrolling voters, forcing long wait times, making it harder to vote by mail, etc. could possibly stifle rural voters and older voters from voting.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
12. I respectfully disagree. The real answer is so much worse than that.
Sat May 15, 2021, 11:30 PM
May 2021

Adam Kiinzinger said only about 5 republicans in the House believe there was fraud. So, over 200 of them agree Biden won fair and square and they are all knowing lying.

Think about this week's GOP back benchers in the House saying January 6 was no biggie. Just like a regular tourist day. That was orchestrated. Why pick three people the vast majority of us have never heard of? Why now when we are trying to set up a committee to investigate? My suspicion is someone in leadership said "lets drop a second big lie so when we get to the committee we can object to calling any witnesses since it was just like a regular tourist day. We ca then claim 'so many people think January 6 was just like any other tourist day and gum up the works." But they didn't want to send out big names in case the second big lie failed to gain traction.

I hate to say it but this is so like Hitler. Tell a big lie enough times and people believe you. Remember Rove "we make the reality"? We're through that looking glass.

But I just don't get how hundreds of elected officials KNOW it is not true and still fire Cheney. 1984. We should send them all brown shirts.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
16. I don't agree with Kinzinger
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:55 AM
May 2021

it is 50 / 50 at best.

Yes, a lot do know Biden won, but there are at least as many who have drank the Kool-Aid so deeply they believe it was stolen, too.

That said, you are right generally about what you posted.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
25. If I have to select an opinion to which I subscribe ...
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:38 PM
May 2021

Ill probably go with the one offered by a guy who is in the arena, and who personally knows the people of whom he speaks.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
26. Yeah, OK
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:27 PM
May 2021

Your world.

I know my share of state level elected republicans, and a few congressman.

My knowledge of it is differs from Kinzingers.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
23. Excellent points.
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:34 PM
May 2021

My view is that we could combine your response with my post and get many to agree.

rampartc

(5,407 posts)
13. it is a tenet of several of their faiths
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:01 AM
May 2021

1. god's will as revealed by the "prophets"
2. the prosperity gospel belief that trump is favored by god as demonstrated by his great wealth.
3. the power of positive thinking
4. "the storm" (all child eating democrats arrested) has still not occurred

Fyrefox

(300 posts)
17. Perhaps if they developed actual "ideas..."
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:00 AM
May 2021

Republicans have no platform and no ideas, other than blind loyalty to the personality cult of their neo-fascist leader Trump, who they are deathly afraid of. False bravado only gets you so far in life...

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
19. For more than a generation, they've been convincing themselves they are the "majority"...
Sun May 16, 2021, 10:16 AM
May 2021

They went from a "Silent Majority" to a "Moral Majority" to whatever they call themselves now.

Truth is, they have never been in the majority, and damn how I wish they would shut the fuck up and show some morals, but they've fallen for their own propaganda.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
24. Yes, this framing is key.
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:35 PM
May 2021

Many, perhaps most, feel that they are the majority.

A corollary to that is if the GOP loses, it is due to cheating by the Democrats.

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