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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:25 PM May 2021

'They've turned into raging monsters': Noam Chomsky links GOP lies to Nazi propaganda





https://www.alternet.org/2021/05/noam-chomsky-republican-party/

The United States has had 17 different presidents during Noam Chomsky's lifetime, from Calvin Coolidge to Joe Biden — and the left-wing author, now 92, has lived through major historical events including the Great Depression, Watergate, 9/11, and the COVID-19 pandemic. Chomsky discussed the challenges of the Biden era during a recent interview with author/journalist David Masciotra for the Los Angeles Review of Books.

Chomsky discussed his most recent book, "Consequences of Capitalism: Manufacturing Discontent and Resistance," in the interview with Masciotra, warning that people who are hurting economically can be manipulated by far-right extremists. Chomsky has been a blistering critic of neoliberal economics, which he said continues to fail millions of people in the United States.

"I've seen it over and over," Chomsky told Masciotra. "During the Kennedy and Johnson years, the technocratic and meritocratic elite, my colleagues from Harvard and MIT, were flocking down to Washington to show how the world should be run. Well, in Vietnam, we saw what came of that. It was not unpredictable. Those of us in the streets were warning of it all along. Now, it is the same. Neoliberalism, whatever is in the minds of people who advocate for it — maybe they don't even think about it — is an explicit effort…. to hand power to private institutions, which are dedicated to self-enrichment."

Neoliberalism, Chomsky added, only worsens the divide between the haves and the have-nots in the United States.

"The majority of the population gets by paycheck to paycheck," Chomsky told Masciotra. "Real wages have stagnated for 40 years. The gains of productivity growth concentrate in very few pockets. This leads to…. unfocused anger. Is it surprising? People aren't told what is really robbing them. Instead, they are told that it is immigrants, Blacks, some pedophiles from outer space, if you believe QAnon — anything but what is actually happening."

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'They've turned into raging monsters': Noam Chomsky links GOP lies to Nazi propaganda (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2021 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2021 #1
... Nevilledog May 2021 #4
Right on target, Chomsky gets the heart of the matter: appalachiablue May 2021 #2
Bingo. nt crickets May 2021 #8
K&Fuckin'R!!! Carlitos Brigante May 2021 #3
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein May 2021 #5
Exactly. AZ8theist May 2021 #7
I am so sick of Chomsky Orrex May 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Dave says May 2021 #18
Most Americans don't understand the lingo. blm May 2021 #9
That's a sad but excellent point Orrex May 2021 #10
The Right pRopaganda repeats the lie that Americans love center-right policies but that's false. Justice matters. May 2021 #11
Excellent post. nt crickets May 2021 #13
Notice that, almost no matter what angle an exploration or explantion of society takes, BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #12
I feel like I'm in Argentina in the '50s pecosbob May 2021 #14
"... wages have stagnated for 40 years" and people are uneducated live love laugh May 2021 #15
He's Been Speaking Truth For Decades colsohlibgal May 2021 #16
He's right malaise May 2021 #17

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
2. Right on target, Chomsky gets the heart of the matter:
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:01 PM
May 2021

.. "The majority of the population gets by paycheck to paycheck," Chomsky told Masciotra. "Real wages have stagnated for 40 years. The gains of productivity growth concentrate in very few pockets. This leads to…. unfocused anger. Is it surprising?

People aren't told what is really robbing them. Instead, they are told that it is immigrants, Blacks, some pedophiles from outer space, if you believe QAnon — anything but what is actually happening."...

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
5. K n R ! Thanks for posting!
Mon May 17, 2021, 10:16 PM
May 2021

Chomsky is, and has always been, correct. The labor-classes have been used and abused during his entire life. And we still are.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
7. Exactly.
Mon May 17, 2021, 10:38 PM
May 2021

Chompsky always performs hammer to nail perfectly.

It's just a shame more people don't listen. Or know how to think or reason...

Response to Orrex (Reply #6)

blm

(113,061 posts)
9. Most Americans don't understand the lingo.
Mon May 17, 2021, 10:47 PM
May 2021

Ask 10 random people in a grocery store to define the word neoliberalism.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
10. That's a sad but excellent point
Mon May 17, 2021, 10:51 PM
May 2021

The Right has been 1000X better at branding and messaging for at least the past 50 years. The Left tends to articulate complex social strategies for change and then wonders why their lengthy and esoteric dissertations fail to catch fire in the popular imagination.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
11. The Right pRopaganda repeats the lie that Americans love center-right policies but that's false.
Mon May 17, 2021, 11:12 PM
May 2021

Polls show a big majority of people's preferred policies are almost to the left of Bernie...

Most Americans Are Liberal, Even If They Don’t Know It
Don’t believe it? Check out these polls.
>> https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/

The Economy

82 percent of Americans think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington.
69 percent think large businesses have too much power and influence in Washington.
59 percent—and 72 percent of likely voters—think Wall Street has too much power and influence in Washington.
78 percent of likely voters support stronger rules and enforcement on the financial industry.
65 percent of Americans think our economic system “unfairly favors powerful interests.”
59 percent of Americans—and 43 percent of Republicans—think corporations make “too much profit.”

Inequality

82 percent of Americans think economic inequality is a “very big” (48 percent) or “moderately big” (34 percent) problem. Even 69 percent of Republicans share this view.
66 percent of Americans think money and wealth should be distributed more evenly.
72 percent of Americans say it is “extremely” or “very” important, and 23 percent say it is “somewhat important,” to reduce poverty.
59 percent of registered voters—and 51 percent of Republicans—favor raising the maximum amount that low-wage workers can make and still be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, from $14,820 to $18,000.

Money in Politics

96 percent of Americans—including 96 percent of Republicans—believe money in politics is to blame for the dysfunction of the U.S. political system.
84 percent of Americans—including 80 percent of Republicans—believe money has too much influence in politics.
78 percent of Americans say we need sweeping new laws to reduce the influence of money in politics.
73 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision.

Taxes

80 percent of Americans think some corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes.
78 percent think some wealthy people don’t pay their fair share of taxes.
76 percent believe the wealthiest Americans should pay higher taxes.
60 percent of registered voters believe corporations pay too little in taxes.
87 percent of Americans say it is critical to preserve Social Security, even if it means increasing Social Security taxes paid by wealthy Americans.
67 percent of Americans support lifting the cap to require higher-income workers to pay Social Security taxes on all of their wages.

Minimum Wage

66 percent of Americans favor raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour.
59 percent favor raising the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour.
48 percent support raising the national minimum wage to $15 an hour.
(A survey of registered voters found that 54 percent favored a $15 minimum wage.)
63 percent of registered voters think the minimum wage should be adjusted each year by the rate of inflation.

Workers' Rights

61 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—approve of labor unions.
74 percent of registered voters—including 71 percent of Republicans—support requiring employers to offer paid parental and medical leave.
78 percent of likely voters favor establishing a national fund that offers all workers 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.

Health Care

60 percent of Americans believe “it is the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage.”
60 percent of registered voters favor “expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American.”
58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.”
64 percent of registered voters favor their state accepting the Obamacare plan for expanding Medicaid in their state.

Education

63 percent of registered voters—including 47 percent of Republicans—of Americans favor making four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free.
59 percent of Americans favor free early-childhood education.

Climate Change and the Environment

76 percent of voters are “very concerned” or “somewhat concerned” about climate change.
68 percent of voters think it is possible to protect the environment and protect jobs.
72 percent of voters think it is a “bad idea” to cut funding for scientific research on the environment and climate change.
59 percent of voters say more needs to be done to address climate change.

Gun Safety

84 percent of Americans support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
77 percent of gun owners support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.

Criminal Justice

57 percent of Americans believe police officers generally treat blacks and other minorities differently than they treat whites.
60 percent of Americans believe the recent killings of black men by police are part of a broader pattern of how police treat black Americans (compared with 39 percent who believe they are isolated incidents).

Immigration

68 percent of Americans—including 48 percent of Republicans—believe the country’s openness to people from around the world “is essential to who we are as a nation.” Just 29 percent say that “if America is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation.”

65 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—say immigrants strengthen the country “because of their hard work and talents.” Just 26 percent say immigrants are a burden “because they take our jobs, housing and health care.”

64 percent of Americans think an increasing number of people from different races, ethnic groups, and nationalities makes the country a better place to live. Only 5 percent say it makes the United States a worse place to live, and 29 percent say it makes no difference.

76 percent of registered voters—including 69 percent of Republicans—support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children (Dreamers) to stay in the country. 58 percent think Dreamers should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements. Another 18 percent think they should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens. Only 15 percent think they should be removed or deported from the country.

Abortion and Women's Health

58 percent of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
68 percent of Americans—including 54 percent of Republicans—support the requirement for private health insurance plans to cover the full cost of birth control.

Same-Sex Marriage

62 percent of Americans—including 70 percent of independents and 40 percent of Republicans—support same-sex marriage.
74 percent of millennials (born after 1981) support same-sex marriage.


But the Senate is set up to favor republiQons' policies (or obstructing Left-leaning policies).

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
12. Notice that, almost no matter what angle an exploration or explantion of society takes,
Mon May 17, 2021, 11:38 PM
May 2021

inequity is, if not front and center, at least an important side effect or partial cause. Wage and wealth inequality is so important - it's killing the ostensible American Dream.

I've said it many times - deprivation doesn't cause revolutions like inequality does. If people think the suffering is widely shared, they will persevere along with their friends and neighbours. If they think that they, either alone or as part of a group, are bearing a disproportionate amount of the burden, they will not suffer in silence indefinitely.

live love laugh

(13,109 posts)
15. "... wages have stagnated for 40 years" and people are uneducated
Tue May 18, 2021, 08:48 AM
May 2021

with an assault on the media to keep them in the dark.

Disastrous mix.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
16. He's Been Speaking Truth For Decades
Tue May 18, 2021, 08:50 AM
May 2021

The Republicans threw a fit about Biden sending money To everyday Americans because it would add to the deficit.....funny how they never mention that when cutting taxes for Billionaires and Large Corporations.

Wages stagnated for 40 years....back to Reagan, no surprise.

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