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Wed May 19, 2021, 08:06 PM

An 11-year-old girl fought off a knife-wielding man who tried to kidnap her at FL school bus stop

(CNN) An 11-year-old girl waiting for her school bus in Pensacola, Florida, was able to fight off an alleged kidnapping attempt on Tuesday morning and get to safety, authorities said.

A 30-year-old suspect was arrested later that day after a search involving at least 50 deputies and other personnel, Escambia County Sheriff Chip Simmons told reporters. Surveillance video released by the sheriff's office shows the girl kneeling on the grass at the bus stop when a white Dodge Journey SUV stops on the side of the road. The video shows a man getting out of the car and running toward the girl. Simmons said the man was holding a knife.

The video shows the girl trying to run away before the man grabs her and starts carrying her toward the vehicle. There is a struggle and the girl breaks free from the suspect's grip when they both fall to the ground. The girl can be seen running away as the man hurries back to his car and drives off.

"I cannot help but think that this could have ended very differently. Had this 11-year-old victim not thought to fight and to fight and to just never give up, then this could have ended terrible," Simmons said.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/us/florida-kidnapping-attempt-video-trnd/index.html

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Reply An 11-year-old girl fought off a knife-wielding man who tried to kidnap her at FL school bus stop (Original post)
FM123 May 2021 OP
Buns_of_Fire May 2021 #1
PortTack May 2021 #3
malaise May 2021 #2
FM123 May 2021 #4
Lonestarblue May 2021 #5
Jon King May 2021 #6
MadLinguist May 2021 #7
BGBD May 2021 #8
niyad May 2021 #10
lpbk2713 May 2021 #17
niyad May 2021 #9
ansible May 2021 #11
Mariana May 2021 #12
onetexan May 2021 #13
drmeow May 2021 #15
LanternWaste May 2021 #16
onetexan May 2021 #18
maxsolomon May 2021 #19
UnderThisLaw May 2021 #23
rockfordfile May 2021 #14
maxsolomon May 2021 #20
Aristus May 2021 #21
maxsolomon May 2021 #22

Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 08:28 PM

1. Don't even bother throwing away the key. Just weld the cell door shut. nt

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #1)

Wed May 19, 2021, 09:12 PM

3. This!!

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 08:33 PM

2. So glad she escaped

You go girl.

Lock him up!

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Wed May 19, 2021, 09:25 PM

4. Yes, so glad she escaped!

Such a brave little girl, to stand up to and fight that large monster with a knife. May he rot in jail.

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Response to FM123 (Reply #4)

Wed May 19, 2021, 09:47 PM

5. There should be a special hell for child molesters and rapists!

And I include the former guy in that category since I have read the accusation and support for the claim of Trumpís rape of a 16-year-old who dropped her case because of death threats. I think it was later settled out of court.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 09:49 PM

6. He was a convicted sex offender and had approached her 2 weeks ago too.

Unreal story, the guy was a convicted sex offender. He had approached her 2 weeks ago at the bus stop, she got away and her mother drove her to school for 2 weeks. Tuesday was the first day she was at the bus stop alone since then.

The guy must have been watching and waiting for 2 weeks for his chance.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #6)

Wed May 19, 2021, 10:10 PM

7. good god, this is lifetime PTSD stuff

She finally ventures back out there, and immediately this jackal is waiting for her.
This is not a day that erases itself

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 11:10 PM

8. Good girl

 

The knife was for show so that she'd go without a fight, he wasn't prepared to use it in that situation. He'd have likely killed her later though.

We had a thread a week or so ago about serial killers, and this guy may well have become one, if he wasn't already.



I find a couple of things interesting about this. He lived a short distance away from this bus stop and was supposed to be going to work shortly after. He called his boss to say he would be late right after the failed abduction telling him that he had to take his own child to school. The boss said that was strange because he thought the child was taking classes virtually at home. Also, his coworker said he was acting strangely, taking several calls from his wife in private when he usually speaks in the open to her.

That makes me have a few questions. First, what was his plan for work if the abduction had succeeded? Why hadn't he already told him he was going to be late, or was it just that he was cruising the bus stop each day and didn't know he would be late until he saw the girl? That's probably the answer.

What was he going to do with her if he got her? He doesn't have privacy at home, he can't just show up with a random 11 year old girl with his wife and kids there and expect to keep it secret. So, did he have somewhere else he was going to take her? They need to find that out and hit that place because there's no reason to be sure she's the first.

Next, who was he actually talking to? Since he was being so private I have to assume he was talking about the failed abduction. Was he confessing to his wife? Was she in on it? Or, was he just telling them it was his wife and he was actually talking to someone else? Was he alone in this?

My theory is that he has an accomplice who lives somewhere alone. The plan was to watch this girl and, when the opportunity arose, snatch her and take her to the other mans house where the could hide her without worrying about somebody just walking in and finding them. They would have held her there for a time, but likely not long before killing her and disposing of the body somewhere. Alternatively, he may have just planned to park his van somewhere and do it there, but that doesn't answer why he was taking so many private calls if that's out of the ordinary.

He wasn't wearing a mask so he clearly had no intention of letting her go since he could ID him. He had it all planned out, but he'd failed to realize there were cameras on the bus stop. He also didn't expect her to fight back and it spooked him enough that he was worried it would draw attention to him so he bailed out. I'm very interested to find out if that was actually his wife he was talking to. I suspect it wasn't. It isn't unheard of for a man and woman couple to do this kind of thing but it is very rare. I can't remember ANY case of that happening when there is a child in the home.

If anyone tries to kidnap you, fight for everything you're worth, assume they are going to kill you when they are done. Even if they have a knife or a gun, fight. It's your best chance to survive.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #8)

Wed May 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

10. I think you have the correct view of the plan and intended outcome. Truly terrifying.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #8)

Thu May 20, 2021, 06:02 PM

17. You make some good points.



He had to give up and leave quickly. He knew if she kept struggling
he would be seen and someone would come to her aid.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 11:10 PM

9. Thank Goddess she escaped. I want to send this story to that asshole in the TX senate who said

that his God did not make mistakes. I guess that means that this pedophile, this sexual predator, is one of god's perfections?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed May 19, 2021, 11:39 PM

11. Why would you let your kid alone like that?!

 

This modern world is so completely fucked up now, maybe I'm being too overly paranoid but when my son is old enough to go to school I will never, ever let him out of my sight and let him walk alone outside!

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Response to ansible (Reply #11)

Thu May 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

12. Many parents have jobs.

Some of those jobs require the parents to be working when the children are going to or from school.

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Response to ansible (Reply #11)

Thu May 20, 2021, 03:11 AM

13. Yup. She was alone & why this man tried to kidnap her

Where was mom?

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Response to onetexan (Reply #13)

Thu May 20, 2021, 05:49 PM

15. Stop blaming women

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Response to onetexan (Reply #13)

Thu May 20, 2021, 05:54 PM

16. Shouldn't you ask "where was the dad?"

 

Since you're directly implying partial blame of the mom while wholly ignoring the actual bad guy, let's try to at least be equal in our fallacious reasoning.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #16)

Thu May 20, 2021, 06:07 PM

18. The article only mentioned the mom, didn't mention a dad so i'm not blaming mom.

I'm making the point that given the fact the child had already mentioned to the mother she was uncomfortable when this pervert approached her, that one would assume the mom would not let the child stand alone at the bus stop. We live in a dangerous world and dangerous country. Hold on to your babies.

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Response to ansible (Reply #11)

Thu May 20, 2021, 06:15 PM

19. America is actually much safer, and less fucked up.

Incidents like this are more rare than when we were children.

It is the perception of their frequency that is amplified by internet media - this would have been a local story only 40 years ago.

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Response to ansible (Reply #11)

Thu May 20, 2021, 09:43 PM

23. Why would you

ask such a ridiculous question?

Donít bother replying, the answer is obvious

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu May 20, 2021, 03:37 AM

14. Florida for you. Where were the police ? a school bus stop should have a cop or guard

Florida is a dangerous place because the un-American DeSantis that seems to have attracted those like a magnet.

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #14)

Thu May 20, 2021, 06:17 PM

20. You want a policeman at every school bus stop?

It'd be cheaper to have a taxi take them directly to & fro.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #20)

Thu May 20, 2021, 06:26 PM

21. Yeah, and I ain't trusting a cop for nothing.

They're just bad news from the word 'go'.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #21)

Thu May 20, 2021, 08:47 PM

22. I think I'd trust most of them to guard a bus stop.

That really wasn't my point, however.

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